FL - FSU Law Professor Dan Markel Murdered by Hitmen *4 Guilty* #25

[Knitpicker]

I think this call was CA trying to calm WA down. They knew DanM's approximate movements that day i.e dropping the kids off around 9am, but they had no idea he would go to the gym. So the hit was supposed to happen after the kids were dropped off, however instead of turning left, he turns right. CA phones WA to let her know, she freaks out is upset, tries to keep Best Buy guy there.

Oh thats a clever thought. So the reason for the last minute lunch date. She was originally supposed to see Renee who had an interview at FSU which would have supported her driving south on her way to FSU, and passing the house (so no going “out of her way” but plans changed.( I think she was to see Renee before the interview, but she (Renee) ran out of time. I’m thinking it was around 10:30 which would fit the time of the murder being around 9:20 or so. W would leave her house at 10:00, pass the house and then meet Renee at FSU.

Wendi ALREADY knew he was at the gym by his text to her at 9:15 that he was going to the gym.

So if Wendi was involved she would have known at 9:15 he was at the gym, but the plan could have been for after he dropped the kids off, and then it got delayed. I dont remember if there were phone calls from SG to KM after DM entered the gym.

 

[Knitpicker]

I think this call was CA trying to calm WA down. They knew DanM's approximate movements that day i.e dropping the kids off around 9am, but they had no idea he would go to the gym. So the hit was supposed to happen after the kids were dropped off, however instead of turning left, he turns right. CA phones WA to let her know, she freaks out is upset, tries to keep Best Buy guy there.

Right good thought and the timing works and maybe WA didn’t see the 9:15 text from DM yet? He told her he would be out of the gym by 10:30. Yes…apparently he usually dropped off the kids at 8:40 I think. On a map, Premiere gym is near Mozaik so its a bit of a drive from the daycare.
You know, I think you are right. I think the murder was to be after dropping the kids off. And she may have made that meeting with Renee at 10:30 as part of her alibi.
What we need is testimony by Renee about whether it was Wendi who cancelled that meeting or if it was Renee. Wendi said Renee ran out of time. But if it was Wendi who cancelled, it fits into an earlier time for the murder. Wow.
Really great thinking! Have never heard this theory before.

 

[Going Rogue]

I think this call was CA trying to calm WA down. They knew DanM's approximate movements that day i.e dropping the kids off around 9am, but they had no idea he would go to the gym. So the hit was supposed to happen after the kids were dropped off, however instead of turning left, he turns right. CA phones WA to let her know, she freaks out is upset, tries to keep Best Buy guy there.

Very possible... If Wendi was in on the plans that call had something to do with the hit. It literally could have been any detail. If she wasn’t involved, I think it had to do with Charlie checking in on her on per Donna’s request and running interference.

 

[Going Rogue]

Jeff said, if I recall correctly, she was not opposed to seeing him during that week, and she suggested at various points a trip to St. Augustine and a “staycation.” He also said she knew he was supposed to leave on a trip on that Friday, the day of the murder and the day of the stock the bar party. So, in my opinion, it would appear that he would not be able to attend that party with her, and she knew that.

I feel like you’re setting me up to make all these points I’ve made in the past that no one listened to – and you are going to me in trouble because people don’t like hearing my objective analysis on certain ‘observations’ - LOL... I always try to be fair and objective and certain details people seem to avoid discussing objectively.

I have brought this up a few times before. Jeff did testify that Wendi ~ “knew I was leaving at 11:00am Friday”... so not only did she know the day, according to Jeff she knew the exact time he was departing. The only issue with that testimony is Jeff told Det Hale in the first interview ~ “I had vague plans to leave Friday or Saturday”. Later, in his March 2015 interview with Det Isom, Jeff admitted that Wendi didn’t know exactly when he was leaving after Isom questioned him on it. The reason Isom drilled down to this important detail is Jeff brought up that his friend’s told him he should tell law enforcement he might have been being set up as the fall guy because Wendi knew he was leaving town at the same time as the crime was committed. Isom immediately corrected Jeff by saying – “but you said she didn’t know when you were leaving”. Jeff responded that Isom was correct that she didn’t know but then (after a pause) said ~ “but she could have found out from mutual friends... I’m sure I may have told others that could have told her”... What????

I bring this up because it would appear to me that based on Jeff’s police interview, Wendi did not know he was planning on leaving on Friday (no less Friday at 11:00am) – despite his testimony that you correctly referenced. Jeff described Wendi’s questions in the parking lot after yoga, as having “a deep interest in whether or not he was leaving on Friday”. As I said, it may have been as simple as Wendi asking because she was thinking of potentially lining him up as a babysitter for Friday night and per Jeff’s police interview she did not know he was leaving on Friday. I personally think certain parts of Jeff’s testimony were slightly exaggerated. I say that because he testified that she knew he was leaving at 11:00am on Friday, which completely contradicts his statements in his police interview. Jeff seems like a very detailed oriented guy and the fact that he testified she knew he was leaving at 11:00am on Friday seemed like a subconscious effort to bury her. I also doubt he knew about the stock the bar party.

 

[amicuscurie]

But that invite probably came before he made plans to leave to Tenn., because he went bc she broke up with him that Monday. Otherwise he wouldnt have left and he may have gone to St Augustine with her.

No, actually as 8 recall from the newly released unredacted interview, Jeff says that if they were going to go to St. Augustine, he planned for them to drive back that Friday and then he would leave on his trip.

 

[amicuscurie]

I feel like you’re setting me up to make all these points I’ve made in the past that no one listened to – and you are going to me in trouble because people don’t like hearing my objective analysis on certain ‘observations’ - LOL... I always try to be fair and objective and certain details people seem to avoid discussing objectively.

I have brought this up a few times before. Jeff did testify that Wendi ~ “knew I was leaving at 11:00am Friday”... so not only did she know the day, according to Jeff she knew the exact time he was departing. The only issue with that testimony is Jeff told Det Hale in the first interview ~ “I had vague plans to leave Friday or Saturday”. Later, in his March 2015 interview with Det Isom, Jeff admitted that Wendi didn’t know exactly when he was leaving after Isom questioned him on it. The reason Isom drilled down to this important detail is Jeff brought up that his friend’s told him he should tell law enforcement he might have been being set up as the fall guy because Wendi knew he was leaving town at the same time as the crime was committed. Isom immediately corrected Jeff by saying – “but you said she didn’t know when you were leaving”. Jeff responded that Isom was correct that she didn’t know but then (after a pause) said ~ “but she could have found out from mutual friends... I’m sure I may have told others that could have told her”... What????

I bring this up because it would appear to me that based on Jeff’s police interview, Wendi did not know he was planning on leaving on Friday (no less Friday at 11:00am) – despite his testimony that you correctly referenced. Jeff described Wendi’s questions in the parking lot after yoga, as having “a deep interest in whether or not he was leaving on Friday”. As I said, it may have been as simple as Wendi asking because she was thinking of potentially lining him up as a babysitter for Friday night and per Jeff’s police interview she did not know he was leaving on Friday. I personally think certain parts of Jeff’s testimony were slightly exaggerated. I say that because he testified that she knew he was leaving at 11:00am on Friday, which completely contradicts his statements in his police interview. Jeff seems like a very detailed oriented guy and the fact that he testified she knew he was leaving at 11:00am on Friday seemed like a subconscious effort to bury her. I also doubt he knew about the stock the bar party.

I believe that all of the testimony to date indicates, to me at least, that she knew he was planning a trip that weekend, though perhaps she was unclear as to exactly when he was leaving. I just watched the unredacted interview and I recall that he says that they were at one point considering going to St. Augustine, and they planned to come back that Friday and he was going to go straight from there to wherever he was going.

 

[amicuscurie]

Oh thats a clever thought. So the reason for the last minute lunch date. She was originally supposed to see Renee who had an interview at FSU which would have supported her driving south on her way to FSU, and passing the house (so no going “out of her way” but plans changed.( I think she was to see Renee before the interview, but she (Renee) ran out of time. I’m thinking it was around 10:30 which would fit the time of the murder being around 9:20 or so. W would leave her house at 10:00, pass the house and then meet Renee at FSU.

Wendi ALREADY knew he was at the gym by his text to her at 9:15 that he was going to the gym.

So if Wendi was involved she would have known at 9:15 he was at the gym, but the plan could have been for after he dropped the kids off, and then it got delayed. I dont remember if there were phone calls from SG to KM after DM entered the gym.

Another point: as I recall from her police interview, she is quite inconsistent as to exactly when she listened to that message saying he would be at the gym. To me that is curious. At one point, as I recall, she denies having listened to it.

 

[Knitpicker]

I believe that all of the testimony to date indicates, to me at least, that she knew he was planning a trip that weekend, though perhaps she was unclear as to exactly when he was leaving. I just watched the unredacted interview and I recall that he says that they were at one point considering going to St. Augustine, and they planned to come back that Friday and he was going to go straight from there to wherever he was going.

That was before she sent the Monday night email

 

[Knitpicker]

No, actually as 8 recall from the newly released unredacted interview, Jeff says that if they were going to go to St. Augustine, he planned for them to drive back that Friday and then he would leave on his trip.

I don’t remember him mentioning anything about him goign on his trip AFTER st Augustine. And I listened twice. How did I miss that?

 

[Zedzded]

Right good thought and the timing works and maybe WA didn’t see the 9:15 text from DM yet? He told her he would be out of the gym by 10:30. Yes…apparently he usually dropped off the kids at 8:40 I think. On a map, Premiere gym is near Mozaik so its a bit of a drive from the daycare.
You know, I think you are right. I think the murder was to be after dropping the kids off. And she may have made that meeting with Renee at 10:30 as part of her alibi.
What we need is testimony by Renee about whether it was Wendi who cancelled that meeting or if it was Renee. Wendi said Renee ran out of time. But if it was Wendi who cancelled, it fits into an earlier time for the murder. Wow.
Really great thinking! Have never heard this theory before.

The two things that jump out was the Best Buy guy reporting WA was upset and there was a long call to her brother. I think if the plan was going perfectly there would not have been an 18 minute phone call. And both WA and CA said different things about what they were talking about on that long phone call.

 

[Zedzded]

One possibility would be it was done behind her back and she found out the day of or shortly after that her family was involved - she was either directly told or figured it out. Another possibility is she was given a heads up (shortly before?) and told to stay out of it and to keep her nose clean – just two possibilities and there could be multiple variations where she didn’t take an active role in the plot to kill Dan but was aware it was her family. In my opinion, there is not a realistic scenario where she wasn’t involved AND by the time she first testified she did not believe or understand her family was behind the murder.

I think because CA was the Maestro he wanted sole control of this "project." If he allowed WA to help plan it then that negates his Maestro status. So I think he enjoyed keeping as much information from her as possible. It was a case of "I'll handle it, you don't worry about a thing."

So any engagement he had with her about the planning of the murder was minimal. She knew, but because of the way he orchestrated it (pun intended) she has ended up being shielded from the crime. Inadvertently. I don't think protecting her was part of the plan. But as the murder got closer, CA needed her help with some of the finer details. So I think say November 2013 CA told WA the hit is going down. And perhaps she has two or three communications about "Dads birthday present" and that's it until a few weeks before the murder when she's asked about his schedule and the TV repair/alibi gets setup.

So she is disconnected from the planning of the crime, but there is still enough circumstantial evidence to charge her. Just not sure what with. If she knew, but was not involved then murder/conspiracy are out. The only person that can say she contributed to the planning of the crime is probably CA. And he is going to keep quiet (for the time being).

 

[apeXperience]

From the November 13, 2023 Mrs. Donna Adelson’s arrest at MIA to the February 26, 2025 criminal hearing at Leon County court room, both Donna and Dr. Harvey Adelson seem to have aged noticeably, if just for their facial skin tone and smoothness.


It is ironical that all of these predicaments started for Donna and Harvey from their eagerness to use all means necessary, including the alleged first degree murder of Dr. Dan Markel, such that their daughter Wendi Adelson, Esq. gets to leave Tallahassee, FL.

Indeed, Ms. Wendi Adelson escaped Tallahassee, FL, and now an allegedly sexually driven free woman roaming somewhere in TX.

However, her mother Donna Adelson is stuck at Leon County Jail and her father Harvey Adelson has learned to live alone at an apartment in … the very dreaded Tallahassee, FL. Brother Rob and his family are estranged in NY, while dear brother Charlie is in prison in SD. So much dramatic changes for the worst, and still, some more jeopardy to come this family's way!

Slow agony for the Adelson evil doers!
Justice for Dan Markel!

 

[Zedzded]

From the November 13, 2023 Mrs. Donna Adelson’s arrest at MIA to the February 26, 2025 criminal hearing at Leon County court room, both Donna and Dr. Harvey Adelson seem to have aged noticeably, if just for their facial skin tone and smoothness.

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It is ironical that all of these predicaments started for Donna and Harvey from their eagerness to use all means

She's aged so much in just over a year. She looks like she's aged 10 years. Was it worth it Donna?

 

[Ferpo]

Two new filings today by DA's team.

1. Deposition of WA in Austin, TX
2. Motion to exclude the court file for Markel vs. Adelson divorce proceedings

#2 of course is a critical piece of the State's case vs. DA

 

[IQuestion]

Two new filings today by DA's team.

1. Deposition of WA in Austin, TX
2. Motion to exclude the court file for Markel vs. Adelson divorce proceedings

#2 of course is a critical piece of the State's case vs. DA

I see more billable hours and a big "No way result."

 

[inquisitive01]

Any update on the depositions of Garcia and the two female inmates?

 

[Zedzded]

Why are they taking WA's deposition?

 

[Zedzded]

"the false narrative that this was a bitter custody battle."

Oh no it was perfectly amicable!! Lol. This is called "The banana bread defence." DA baked some banana bread for DanM so therefore the divorce was not bitter.

 

[LetsSolvIt]

What’s interesting to me is that I recall seeing that one of these YouTubers showed a copy of the written statement from the Tv repairman. As far as I remember from what he showed, the repairman did not mention that W said anything about her brother making a joke about a hitman. Hypothetically, one would think that if someone was being interviewed by the police, and he heard something about someone joking about hiring a hitman, he would have mentioned that.

One thing that hasn’t made sense to me is that I’m positive I remember Wendi telling Isom that the TV repair man was there two hours ( something like 8 - 10a, then she worked on her paper that she sent to library for help with citations before she left for her errands and lunch).

I can’t imagine how it would take a technician 2 hours to see the TV screen was cracked and advise Wendi it wasn’t worth fixing. Did she not give Isom a correct time span? Did she purposely stall the tech for two hours as a solid alibi? Of course I’m sure the tech’s receipt would indicate a start and stop time so she would have been stupid to lie about him being there two hours if he wasn’t.

This just seems like another slippery detail she has provided. Like saying she had laryngitis and couldn’t talk to Dan about the boys’ school earlier that week, when in actuality she was able to take a long walk with her friend (Jane?) and dump all her woes about Dan.

OMO.

 

[LetsSolvIt]

Here is another observation I have brought up multiple times and I never have seen anyone else make this point or comment on it. Yes, Jeff mentioned there was something strange about ‘that day’ (Friday) to Wendi. He referenced it twice in his police interview. She told him she to be back in Tallahassee early on Friday to pick up the kids when they were planning a vacation AND she asked if he’d be around on Friday during the famous parking lot conversation after their yoga session.

According to Jeff, Wendi was seeing multiple guys during their relationship and I get the feeling he was probably correct. Do you think Jeff knew about the stock the bar party? I don’t think he did – did it ever occur to anyone that the stock the bar party was what was so strange about that day to Wendi? She had to be in town for the party and maybe she didn’t want Jeff to know about the party? Maybe Daniel Sack or another one of Wendi’s love interests was going to be there? Maybe the party was the reason she had to be back early on Friday? Maybe she wanted to know if he was going to around Friday when she had ‘a deep interest’ in his travel plans that weekend because she was thinking about leveraging his babysitting services?

Interesting idea. I have always wondered who she was planning to have watch the boys while she was at the stock-the-bar party. Just my musings.