FL - FSU Law Professor Dan Markel Murdered by Hitmen-Donna Adelson Upcoming Trial - *5 Guilty* #28

[rescuemom]

The problem with having a cuckoo bird defendant is that for every incriminating piece of circumstantial evidence there’s corresponding perplexing behavior that undermines it. TV repair alibi but then you’re driving down Trescott….

Lame alibi, IMO. I would have met up with a friend for a late breakfast or early lunch mixed in with several stops along the way with receipts. But then again I wouldn't be in this mess.

 

[rescuemom]

The scene could have looked any number of ways. He might have been nowhere to be seen, not there and car not there, or run around the back of the house and shot there, front door opened and lying in the doorway, lying in the front yard. I think she would have wanted to prepare for if she would have to report it herself, to protect the boys from having to go there at all, or work out if it was obvious enough for someone else to report it. Possibly she was expecting the whole road to be closed off if police were there, but because it wasn't she took the next step of approaching the house. I think she was scouting.

Control freak DA should have done a ride-along to see that it was done to her specifications. Can you imagine several hours in the car with her babbling in the back seat?????????

 

[opt]

Control freak DA should have done a ride-along to see that it was done to her specifications.

She of all people should have known that if you want a job done right, do it yourself! That would have kept 4 other people (so far) out of prison.

 

[Going Rogue]

The problem with having a cuckoo bird defendant is that for every incriminating piece of circumstantial evidence there’s corresponding perplexing behavior that undermines it. TV repair alibi but then you’re driving down Trescott….

Very astute observation that sums it up perfectly… I will only add that all her perplexing behavior that undermines every incriminating piece of circumstantial evidence is somehow justified and her perplexing behavior and contradictions are woven into a narrative of cunning deception. My all time favorite – using reverse psychology

 

[Going Rogue]

He said she knows he's not a morning person. But to say she knew he would be passing DM’s house at 11. I don’t remember anything he said in interview or testimony to support the exact time he would be driving by DM’s house on the way to Tn.

My guess is that He regularly slept late , (ah the life of a college professor!), and he taught late morning classes and had a pattern of when he passed that area to go teach?

It’s interesting that JL at Donnas trial reverted back to the summer of 2013 “Hit man would be 15K “,and not the possibility of 50K as previous testimonies. I know criticism of JL is usually not accepted.
He also said he only saw Wendi for 2 weekends from March to June. Strange. That’s when they were “serious boyfriend and girlfriend”.

Edit: I’m not against JL just something to point out-needs thought by GC who also suggested the duo asked for a car like JL’s to implicate him in some way. Which would mean the family got his car info to SG and LR

You are correct, people don’t like any criticism of Jeff. They also don’t like it when you look objectively at certain popular theories or evidence that might be counter to a certain theory – the ‘Adelson Effect” video is proof of that! Like you, I’m not against Jeff, but there are certain parts of his testimony that I question and find interesting. To support the fall-guy narrative, Jeff testified 3 times that his car looked ‘similar’ to the Prius – now in Donna’s trial, Jeff shifts his testimony to the hitmen rented a car ‘similar’ to his car on the first trip and there is no longer a comparison to the getaway car? I find that so incredibly interesting.

I give Isom a lot of credit. Sorry for the redundancy, hut the following case detail bothers me to the core and I think it’s because people seem reluctant to discuss / acknowledge how significant his following ‘evolving’ testimony is to the case against Wendi. In the 3rd police interview when Jeff first outlined the theory about potentially being set up for he murder, Isom called him out immediately when Jeff said ~ “she knew I’d be leaving at 11:00am on Friday”. If you watch that part of the interview, Isom (who is VERY smart) challenged Jeff’s claim that Wendi knew he was leaving at 11:00am. He challenged him because Jeff previously told Isom he had “vague plans to leave Friday or Saturday” and made it clear that he wasn’t sharing the exact details of his trip with Wendi because he was upset with her. You can literally see the wheels spinning in Jeff’s head after Isom said “but you said she didn’t know when you were leaving”… after that brief pause, Jeff said she could’ve found out from someone at work???? If you watched the Isom interview on Mentour Lawyer’s channel, you know Isom literally laughed when he was asked if he thought Jeff was being set up at the fall guy.

I find is so interesting how people obsess over every single word Wendi said while under immense pressure and being treated as a hostile witness – inconsistencies in her testimony are dissected and analyzed to the nth degree. People get so hung up on every word Wendi spoke comparing her statements from the police interview across all 4 trials spanning more than 11 years looking for any slip up to validate their beliefs, yet, this major inconsistency I mentioned in Jeff’s testimony is not discussed? I find Jeff’s claim that Wendi knew he was leaving at 11:00am to be a big red flag that makes me question some other things Jeff said because if he was willing to embellish that detail (that is a major detail) what else might he have added in his testimony to be ‘helpful’? Like I said, I believe 90% of what Jeff said, but certain things I take with a grain of salt. I think his cross examination in potential Wendi trial will not go like most anticipate.

 

[Going Rogue]

IMO, Jeff, although he can contirbute alot to everything WA, he can't help but add to everything WA his slant on the break up with WA. Obviously, he was more into her than she was into him. I've listened to his interviews some more than once and I hear him several times reitterate the break up that to me is not relevant in a police or any interview. I believe he has vital information to add but in the end he was a jilted lover. All JMO.

I do believe Jeff subconsciously wants revenge on Wendi because he feels he was used and he is convinced she was involved. I like your word usage… the word ‘slant’ is a good way to describe that way Jeff explains anything Wendi related. To be clear, I am not calling him a liar, just think he explains certain details in a way where he is either purposefully or subconsciously framing it in a way to supports the states case in an effort to help the prosecution. Perhaps exaggerating or embellishing certain details that help forward the case against Wendi.

 

[Going Rogue]

He seems to no longer do “lives”.
“Shorts” on a daily basis seem to help algorithms/profits more that 3 hour lives once a week.
I’m noticing this with more channels.
“Jay” and Judy as another example.. Jay is only doing shorts now, and has recently grown his channel more in the last few months than all the previous years he was doing lives.
Edit: Shorts can go to instagram , tick Toc, X, etc. More exposure, more views, more income.

The reality is there is nothing new to talk about and given his format where he just sits in front of a microphone solo and rambles on, what can he possibly discuss that hasn’t already been discussed a hundred times? In a format where you bring on guests and have a true collaboration, you can entertain your audience and at least keep them from falling asleep zzzzzzzz. Not to mention, how long has he been making a certain prediction? Maybe he realizes he was wrong and is in hiding

 

[Weki]

Jeff's ego needs a redeeming arc in this tragic story because the reality is utterly humiliating to him. He's this professor of social work, decent guy, looking to start a family. He hooks up with this sociopathic, emotionally unstable woman (by his own profile of Wendi) and is subjected to humiliation after humiliation and he sticks it out. She tells him her brother looked into hiring a hitman. She complains incessantly about her ex, and about Tally. She's sleeping with other men. And even with the broken TV incident. He just SITS THERE and watches the movie on the broken TV. My guy!!!! What does it take? This is the woman he would've chosen to have children with? It's unsurprising that he comes to believe he was the patsy about to be set up. It's consistent with the relationship dynamic.

I'm sure he has the intense resentment that is the only reward for this much passivity. Even the police treated him like an irritant. Isom was not taking him seriously at all. He's cast himself as the prosecution's inside man and he's embellished details as time has gone on. I also think he's credible but yeah there are a handful of attack lines that will make him sweat on the stand. He hasn't really been put through his paces yet. A good defense lawyer can make Jeff look really BAD.

JMO

 

[opt]

I disagree. The jury will empathize with him even if they believe he is seeing more betrayal than there was.

 

[Zedzded]

Jeff's ego needs a redeeming arc in this tragic story because the reality is utterly humiliating to him. He's this professor of social work, decent guy, looking to start a family. He hooks up with this sociopathic, emotionally unstable woman (by his own profile of Wendi) and is subjected to humiliation after humiliation and he sticks it out. She tells him her brother looked into hiring a hitman. She complains incessantly about her ex, and about Tally. She's sleeping with other men. And even with the broken TV incident. He just SITS THERE and watches the movie on the broken TV. My guy!!!! What does it take? This is the woman he would've chosen to have children with? It's unsurprising that he comes to believe he was the patsy about to be set up. It's consistent with the relationship dynamic.

I'm sure he has the intense resentment that is the only reward for this much passivity. Even the police treated him like an irritant. Isom was not taking him seriously at all. He's cast himself as the prosecution's inside man and he's embellished details as time has gone on. I also think he's credible but yeah there are a handful of attack lines that will make him sweat on the stand. He hasn't really been put through his paces yet. A good defense lawyer can make Jeff look really BAD.

JMO

I'll never get why he put up with her for so long. But I don't sense any unreasonable bitterness on his part. And I don't think there's much a defence attorney can rip in to him about. His credibility is enhanced by his brutal honesty and willingness to be humiliated on the stand.

 

[Knitpicker]

The reality is there is nothing new to talk about and given his format where he just sits in front of a microphone solo and rambles on, what can he possibly discuss that hasn’t already been discussed a hundred times? In a format where you bring on guests and have a true collaboration, you can entertain your audience and at least keep them from falling asleep zzzzzzzz. Not to mention, how long has he been making a certain prediction? Maybe he realizes he was wrong and is in hiding

He’s not hiding. He’s more visible with an “indicator” daily.

 

[Knitpicker]

Jeff could have been the kind of guy where every day he le

IMO, Jeff, although he can contirbute alot to everything WA, he can't help but add to everything WA his slant on the break up with WA. Obviously, he was more into her than she was into him. I've listened to his interviews some more than once and I hear him several times reitterate the break up that to me is not relevant in a police or any interview. I believe he has vital information to add but in the end he was a jilted lover. All JMO.

Jeff spoke to Wendi 4 times I believe in 8/2014. On one of the earlier interviews he said he spoke to her twice in August.
He had said “Wendi was mad I was dating_____”. And stopped himself, and didn’t say the name.
I have a hard time understanding how, if he was so in love with Wendi, and would have taken her back, he was already dating someone else 2 weeks after the murder.

This has nothing to do with anything. Just strange to me.
Wendi used him. On the weeks she had the kids, when he wasn’t sleeping over, he was mopping her floors and taking care of her kids. On the weekends she didn’t have the kids, he saw her only 2 weekends in 3 months. His said their romantic life was not good.

He was much less animated at Donnas trial. And at Charlie’s we got more info on the TV, and at Donnas we got the photo to Rob and the kids pictures off the wall.
I am sure theres a lot more for Wendi.

Did you notice GC mentioning Wendi’s Bday and imo hinting at something? When he went over and she was really out of it.

I’m trying to remember when the first trip to Cali was to meet his parents. If you know.

 

[Luna20]

The reality is there is nothing new to talk about and given his format where he just sits in front of a microphone solo and rambles on, what can he possibly discuss that hasn’t already been discussed a hundred times? In a format where you bring on guests and have a true collaboration, you can entertain your audience and at least keep them from falling asleep zzzzzzzz. Not to mention, how long has he been making a certain prediction? Maybe he realizes he was wrong and is in hiding

That reminds me of Nancy Grace. Her “Tot-Mom bombshell” after there wasn’t anything new to discuss. Every night was a “Bombshell” in Nancy’s mind. Drama for ratings. Their repetitive spin is monotonous.

 

[Zedzded]

I'm sure he has the intense resentment

JMO

I would hazard a guess most people would feel a tad resentful after their partner routinely slept around and then tried to set you up for the murder of their ex...

 

[LinasK]

I'm going to retract that assertion. The TV could have been broken accidentally. Then the family decided to use it as an alibi. Then years later they used it as a code word. This scenario makes perfect sense.

Okay, but then why force the boys to watch a broken TV???? As punishment?

 

[LinasK]

I would guess one of the kids possibly did damage it. Then one of the dimwits came up with the brilliant idea of getting a TV repair guy out to alibi WA.

I hope one of the detectives was smart enough to interview the boys as to how the TV got broken.

 

[Zedzded]

Okay, but then why force the boys to watch a broken TV???? As punishment?

Yeah forgot about that. JL also watched a movie with them on the broken TV with a perfectly working TV in the other room. Ms Smarty Pants was getting her ducks in a row with the brilliantly thought out alibi. Any question marks about the TV she can just get JL to back her up on the fact it was actually broken. Genius.

 

[Baba O'Riley]

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I’m noticing this with more channels.
“Jay” and Judy as another example.. Jay is only doing shorts now, and has recently grown his channel more in the last few months than all the previous years he was doing lives.
Edit: Shorts can go to instagram , tick Toc, X, etc. More exposure, more views, more income.

Thank you for pointing this out! I was wondering why so many of my fave YT content providers are doing short vids. Even my crochet and cat channels! I find it annoying.

 

[Knitpicker]

Thank you for pointing this out! I was wondering why so many of my fave YT content providers are doing short vids. Even my crochet and cat channels! I find it annoying.

Yep-

 

[apeXperience]

To clarify, publicly available evidence from transcripts of 4 trials show that the SAO has good reason to label Wendi Adelson and Donna Adelson as un-indicted co-conspirators in April 2022.
Donna Adelson has been indicted, tried, and sentenced to LWOP.

Wendi Adelson's turn will come sooner or later, as there is no statute of limitation for first degree murder in Florida.

[...] She's an educated lawyer, she understands what words mean and the importance of using the correct words whether it's a legal document or chat to a mate about the football. Additionally during her law course she would have studied commercial law [...]

Apparently, it is challenging for the SAO to indict her because she is an admitted member of Florida bar in good standing.
It seems doltish to clarify that 1) nothing prevent the prosecutors and/or the grand jurors to indict a member of Florida bar ... if the evidence is there. However, 2) the educated lawyer Wendi Adelson knows the rules of evidence in the Florida criminal proceeding such that she knows what to say and when to keep her mouth shut ... since 2013! Clarification is necessary to help some "smart" keyboard warriors ...
Her brother and mother who are not admitted members of Florida bar in good standing ... were less aware ... and talked too much. Hence, both brother and mother are in prison under LWOP penalty.

[...] Out of all the Adelsons she is the most mal-adjusted and unstable. I don't even think she was ever a competent lawyer. She did well in some exams and that was it. Even her book was terrible.

Is Wendi Adelson the oaf here? How could she be 1) and educated lawyer ... who comprehends words and 2) a unstable incompetent lawyer ... unstable ... at the same time?

The facts are:

1) Donna Adelson popped anti-diarrheal medicines and xanax ... complaining that Dan Markel haunted her from his grave; Charles Adelson smoked weeds and chain popped xanax ... all the while throwing bottled water at June Umchinda, Wendi Adelson kept quiet, spoke rarely, and focused on caring for her boys -- as reported in the transcripts of interviews --

2) Well prepared Georgia Cappleman with her huge and tabbed binders ... did not rattle Wendi Adelson on the stand ... when Wendi Adelson calmly responded "I don't remember ..." and "that sounds right ..." multiple times -- as shown in many videos --

Publicly available pieces of information in the transcripts indicate that Wendi Adelson is an un-indicted co-conspirator to the murder of Dan Markel ... as alleged by the SOA. However, more direct pieces of evidence are needed to convince a secret grand jury to indict her ... Else, Wendi Adelson and John Lauro would embarrass the SAO. Let us wait and see!