FL - FSU Law Professor Dan Markel Murdered by Hitmen-Donna Adelson Upcoming Trial - *5 Guilty* #28

[Zedzded]

I'd be surprised if LE don't have information that can show WA was lying about her Trescott trip i.e 2 trips, not 1.

 

[SubtlePseudonym]

I've been pondering why Wendi looked so unkempt on the day that Dan was murdered. She told Isom that she didn't shower that morning. Everything I know about her suggests that she is not the sort of person who would normally leave the house looking like she did that day.

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I do have a theory. Previously, the prosecution showed a bit of her phone log from that morning/afternoon. I was struck by how she was on her phone non-stop, even while driving to the lunch. When she hung up with one person, she would call someone else. And if they didn't pick up, she would call yet another person. It was like she didn't want to leave any gaps.

My theory is that she was relying on these phone calls as her alibi. She was worried that someone might think she personally shot Dan. But as long as she could show she was on the phone, the murder couldn't be pinned on her. That would explain why she didn't shower. Because that would leave a 15 or 20 minute gap in her phone log.

I wonder if this also partly explain the drive down Trescott. Just like Wendi named her brother as a potential suspect, but intended it to be misdirection. ("He couldn't have done it. He was in Miami!") If the police discovered she was driving down Trescott, she could always say, "I was on the phone with my friend the whole time. It's just a crazy coincidence that I drove by."

Totally agree that she seemed to be hell bent to be on the phone or talking to repairman or liquor store attendants all morning. Would be interesting to see how many days she normally has only seconds between phone calls the entire time she is driving. Just one call after another that morning when she was in the car

 

[Weki]

What fun would it be of you and I didn’t disagree Personally, I think its improbable she took two trips. There is no data to support she took two trips which is why I was asking what you were basing that theory on – maybe I’m missing something?

When Carl issues his new 199 plus indicators of guilt video, maybe he’ll work the two trip theory into his new presentation – maybe he’s reading this for idea’s.... he needs some fresh content

Carl’s got 99 problems and they’re all Wendi lol

 

[Knitpicker]

What fun would it be of you and I didn’t disagree Personally, I think its improbable she took two trips. There is no data to support she took two trips which is why I was asking what you were basing that theory on – maybe I’m missing something?

When Carl issues his new 199 plus indicators of guilt video, maybe he’ll work the two trip theory into his new presentation – maybe he’s reading this for idea’s.... he needs some fresh content

Where’s the proof she took one trip?
Theres no new content. It’s all just recycled.

 

[Knitpicker]

Logic! We don't have any available data to support 2 trips only logic. We know she was late for lunch, we know she drove past 3 liquor stores that were closer. The Trescott trip to ABC never made sense. But as I've said she never meant to get liquor at that time. This was a hastily put together plan B.

She was not expecting to see police and I also don't think, as some have said, that she planned to find Dan's body. She was freaking out and wanted to know what happened.

Her phone calls suggest she was at the crime scene before 12.30. Three phone calls in quick succession from 12.27pm - 12.47pm. Where was she during those 20minutes? It takes 3 minutes to get from Trescott to ABC.

We know she called Jeff S right around 12:30 and its assumed she left the house at that time.
I do not think she would wait 1.5 hours to leave the house to check on whether the deed was done.
Perhaps also not thinking the police would get there so fast.
We were never told her phone location other than 12:30, were we?
When she saw the crime scene she freaked went back home and then found an excuse for why she passed by there (having to get the Bourbon) and made it appear as one trip.

I can be totally off base but some things stand out to me.
At the first trial I am almost sure Wendi said she left the house at 12.
Then at subsequent trials when Georgia asked again what time she left, Georgia suggested it was 12:30.
Wendi knowing she made 2 trips knew she WAS actually int he area at 12:30 and her phone was located leaving her house and heading south, but we don’t know where it was at 12:00, right?

I woudl have to go through all the trials and try and piece all this together. I will get to it!
ONCE AGAIN…just my own theory that makes the most sense based on Brandon’s account of seeing her at 12:00 and her first account of leaving at 12:00.

 

[Zedzded]

We know she called Jeff S right around 12:30 and its assumed she left the house at that time.
I do not think she would wait 1.5 hours to leave the house to check on whether the deed was done.
Perhaps also not thinking the police would get there so fast.
We were never told her phone location other than 12:30, were we?

Why is it assumed she left the house at 12.30?

She did not wait 1.5 hours. She called Dan at 11,44am. No answer confirmed her suspicion that he was dead. 11.45 she starts texting people.

 

[Going Rogue]

I'd be surprised if LE don't have information that can show WA was lying about her Trescott trip i.e 2 trips, not 1.

I would be very surprised if they had information the definitively proved she lied about that. If they had proof she made two trips, they would have already arrested her and charged her with perjury, conspiracy to commit murder, aiding an abetting—not to mention she’d lose her use and derivative use immunity. That information would be game over. Having such information and not acting in a formal indictment would be incompetence.

 

[Knitpicker]

Why is it assumed she left the house at 12.30?

She did not wait 1.5 hours. She called Dan at 11,44am. No answer confirmed her suspicion that he was dead. 11.45 she starts texting people.

I’m talking about leaving the house to head to Trescott

 

[Zedzded]

Where’s the proof she took one trip?

This is what DR was trying to subtly sell to the jury. I never realised it at the time why he was so fixated on getting Officer Brennan to categorically state WA was at the crims scene after 12.30. Especially when Brennan had stated, multiple times he did not know when he saw WA. He gave DR an answer to stop being harangued.

Now it all makes sense. WA's time at the crime scene is key.

 

[Knitpicker]

I would be very surprised if they had information the definitively proved she lied about that. If they had proof she made two trips, they would have already arrested her and charged her with perjury, conspiracy to commit murder, aiding an abetting—not to mention she’d lose her use and derivative use immunity. That information would be game over. Having such information and not acting in a formal indictment would be incompetence.

They needed her for Donna

 

[Knitpicker]

This is what DR was trying to subtly sell to the jury. I never realised it at the time why he was so fixated on getting Officer Brennan to categorically state WA was at the crims scene after 12.30. Especially when Brennan had stated, multiple times he did not know when he saw WA. He gave DR an answer to stop being harangued.

Now it all makes sense. WA's time at the crime scene is key.

RIGHT!

And why was Rashbaum so intent on letting the jury know Harvey was in the shower when Wendi called Donna?
Wendi also saying “You can put me on speaker” as if to confirm Harvey was there.
That was brought up again at Donnas trial

 

[Zedzded]

I’m talking about leaving the house to head to Trescott

That would be the time WA would say to put her in the clear and would mean it was one trip.

 

[Going Rogue]

Carl’s got 99 problems and they’re all Wendi lol

I wonder how many times Carl’s new wife had to wake him up from feverish nightmares where he was screaming Wendi’s name?

 

[Knitpicker]

This is what DR was trying to subtly sell to the jury. I never realised it at the time why he was so fixated on getting Officer Brennan to categorically state WA was at the crims scene after 12.30. Especially when Brennan had stated, multiple times he did not know when he saw WA. He gave DR an answer to stop being harangued.

Now it all makes sense. WA's time at the crime scene is key.

I do believe he said at 12:00 the first trial. I will look for it,
I remember after that trial I had the 12:00 stuck in my head, so when the next trial happened I wondered why now she’s leaving the house at 12:30.

 

[Going Rogue]

Where’s the proof she took one trip?
Theres no new content. It’s all just recycled.

The proof is in the same place as where the proof is that Jeff Lacasse didn’t take two trips to TN

 

[Zedzded]

I would be very surprised if they had information the definitively proved she lied about that. If they had proof she made two trips, they would have already arrested her and charged her with perjury, conspiracy to commit murder, aiding an abetting—not to mention she’d lose her use and derivative use immunity. That information would be game over. Having such information and not acting in a formal indictment would be incompetence.

Start breaking down her Trescott trip and try and be objective. Look at it from the perspective of a reasonable and rational person, that is the standard a court uses to judge someone's actions.

WA was late for lunch.
She drove past 3 closer liquor stores to go to a liquor store further away.
She got petrol when she did not need to.
She was subsequently late for lunch.

WA stated "I'm bad with directions." Perhaps, but she's not blind. She drove past 3 ABC liquor stores and she needs a plausible explanation for that. Because I think the State can make a very strong case she had no intention of going to ABC at that time.

 

[Knitpicker]

That would be the time WA would say to put her in the clear and would mean it was one trip.

Right. If she admitted one trip, then she DEFINITELY went by to check the crime scene.
So she says “Oh I had to go get Bourbon for a party”.
So she was just passing by on her way.

Too bad Brannon didn’t clock it. But it could be he went along with the 12:30 and actually contacted Isom (or Isom was there ) earlier.
Remember Wendi asking int he station “How did they find me so fast”?

Interesting, that it could also be that the cops followed her home after she turned around and went back home and they KNOW she went there and her story is a lie. What a moment that will be.

 

[Knitpicker]

Start breaking down her Trescott trip and try and be objective. Look at it from the perspective of a reasonable and rational person, that is the standard a court uses to judge someone's actions.

WA was late for lunch.
She drove past 3 closer liquor stores to go to a liquor store further away.
She got petrol when she did not need to.
She was subsequently late for lunch.

WA stated "I'm bad with directions." Perhaps, but she's not blind. She drove past 3 ABC liquor stores and she needs a plausible explanation for that. Because I think the State can make a very strong case she had no intention of going to ABC at that time.

She also to this day doesn’t remember if she got gas. “I may have gotten gas”. Unbelievable. Wasn’t she curious, after all these trials to figure that one out?

She was late for lunch because she left her house for the 2nd time (perhaps) about 12:35.
It takes about 12 minutes to get to that area (not Carls 20).
So it makes the most sense that she went straight to ABC after leaving her house the second time.

So some may say “well Sigfredo let Katie know at 12:30 that it was done…Katie says “I Know”, and how could that be because Wendi was driving at that time heading south and she didn’t pass DM’s house yet to tell Katie”.

So thats where the 2 trips come in.
She knew at 12:00 PM.

Georgia is the one who asked Wendi “Did you leave you house at 12 PM”?
And Wendi agreed. She may have said a little after that.
I will get that info tomorrow

 

[Zedzded]

Right. If she admitted one trip, then she DEFINITELY went by to check the crime scene.
So she says “Oh I had to go get Bourbon for a party”.
So she was just passing by on her way.

Too bad Brannon didn’t clock it. But it could be he went along with the 12:30 and actually contacted Isom (or Isom was there ) earlier.
Remember Wendi asking int he station “How did they find me so fast”?

Interesting, that it could also be that the cops followed her home after she turned around and went back home and they KNOW she went there and her story is a lie. What a moment that will be.

Actually wasn't something recently released that shows police tracked her phone to Mozaik hence the reason they found her.

 

[Zedzded]

She also to this day doesn’t remember if she got gas. “I may have gotten gas”. Unbelievable. Wasn’t she curious, after all these trials to figure that one out?

She was late for lunch because she left her house for the 2nd time (perhaps) about 12:35.
It takes about 12 minutes to get to that area (not Carls 20).
So it makes the most sense that she went straight to ABC after leaving her house the second time.

So some may say “well Sigfredo let Katie know at 12:30 that it was done…Katie says “I Know”, and how could that be because Wendi was driving at that time heading south and she didn’t pass DM’s house yet to tell Katie”.

So thats where the 2 trips come in.
She knew at 12:00 PM.

Georgia is the one who asked Wendi “Did you leave you house at 12M”?
And Wendi agreed. She may have said a little after that.
I will get that info tomorrow

Exactly! two trips makes so much sense.