GUILTY FL - FSU Law Professor Dan Markel Murdered by Hitmen-Donna Adelson Upcoming Trial - *5 Guilty* #28

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Which means his only option is to cooperate. Why wouldn't he throw WA under the bus??

What could the State offer Charlie at this point?

 

[Zedzded]

What could the State offer Charlie at this point?

Well LR got 19 years for cooperating, KM was offered full immunity so i don't think the State would baulk at the idea of offering CA something. If he accepted something similar to LRs deal. 19 years, with time served, he'd be out in 15 years, before his 65th birthday with still potentially another 25-30 years left to live. Or he can live in a hot concrete cage for the next 40 years whilst his sister lives the life of Reilly..

 

[Zedzded]

That said I don't think CA will cooperate. I don't think any of them will. They very easily and callously killed DanM not caring about the damage they were doing to the boys, yet, paradoxically, I think they carry great shame because of what they have done. Not because they murdered someone, but they don't want the boys thinking ill of them. It's strange really, illogical. CA would prefer to spend 40 years in a prison cell rather than admit to killing Dan. Perhaps WA would take an Alford plea, she goes to prison, but does not have to admit guilt, so will possible be seen as a victim in the eyes of her sons?

 

[Pyrite]

Well LR got 19 years for cooperating, KM was offered full immunity so i don't think the State would baulk at the idea of offering CA something. If he accepted something similar to LRs deal. 19 years, with time served, he'd be out in 15 years, before his 65th birthday with still potentially another 25-30 years left to live. Or he can live in a hot concrete cage for the next 40 years whilst his sister lives the life of Reilly..

IANAL, but can the state offer CA a lighter sentence now that he has been convicted and sentenced by judge and jury? Without his conviction or current sentence being set aside after successful appeal?

I’m not sure this is a power that DA has.

 

[rescuemom]

That said I don't think CA will cooperate. I don't think any of them will. They very easily and callously killed DanM not caring about the damage they were doing to the boys, yet, paradoxically, I think they carry great shame because of what they have done. Not because they murdered someone, but they don't want the boys thinking ill of them. It's strange really, illogical. CA would prefer to spend 40 years in a prison cell rather than admit to killing Dan. Perhaps WA would take an Alford plea, she goes to prison, but does not have to admit guilt, so will possible be seen as a victim in the eyes of her sons?

Then theres HA and the honey pot. I'm sure he is subsidizing his son and wife and maybe the princess for all we know. There is no statute of limitations for muder so we can only hope.

 

[Zedzded]

IANAL, but can the state offer CA a lighter sentence now that he has been convicted and sentenced by judge and jury? Without his conviction or current sentence being set aside after successful appeal?

I’m not sure this is a power that DA has.

Very unlikely. Cooperation typically happens before sentencing. There are a few cases (e.g Ryan Holle) where LWOP sentences have been commuted, but obviously there need to be extenuating circumstances. However if CA's conviction is overturned and he gets a new trial then he could cooperate for a lighter sentence. Could the State concede an error and choose not to fight it, resulting in a new trial? Once granted they can then offer CA a plea deal.

Imagine CA being told he has a new trial; he's sitting in his cell knowing he could spend the next 40 years here or just 15 years.... his lawyer would/should be telling him that he will be swiftly and easily convicted in a new trial. The evidence is insurmountable especially now the State has the "drug dealers killed Dan" text exchange. That destroys the extortion narrative and leaves CA without an explanation for why he gave two hitmen who killed Dan $150k

 

[rescuemom]

Knowing the true personalities of both CA and DA I can't help but think they will turn on WA at some point. They both at their core are selfish and self centered. Not to mention putting their comfort and survival front and center, they may finally think to themselves 'not this time WA, not anymore' ...or not. JMO

 

[Zedzded]

If he really

Knowing the true personalities of both CA and DA I can't help but think they will turn on WA at some point. They both at their core are selfish and self centered. Not to mention putting their comfort and survival front and center, they may finally think to themselves 'not this time WA, not anymore' ...or not. JMO

I have to admit I don't understand the dynamics of this family. RA was so easily discarded from the family. DA encouraged her son and daughter to embark on a murder for hire plot, knowing if caught they'd die in prison. You hear the devastation in her voice when CA is convicted. You could see the simpering joy she had when she saw her beloved daughter take the stand in her trial. She clearly loves her husband, but dragged him into this...

So I'm conflicted. They are bad people with many subhuman traits, but they have connections and bonds with one another. Bonds that I don't understand. I would speculate that they're toxic bonds; for instance their mutual hatred of Dan perhaps brought them closer, but they are bonds that could easily be broken.

I think DA would throw WA and CA under the bus, but only if the circumstances were right. So probably unlikely for that to happen. CA might thrown WA under the bus. Again the stars would all have to be in alignment for that to happen. Overall, as I've said previously, they carry a deep shame in that they do not want the boys knowing what they did and also perhaps their friends too. So they plead guilty as a last, desperate resort.

 

[Luna20]

Knowing the true personalities of both CA and DA I can't help but think they will turn on WA at some point. They both at their core are selfish and self centered. Not to mention putting their comfort and survival front and center, they may finally think to themselves 'not this time WA, not anymore' ...or not. JMO

The domestic coordinator coordinated getting her son and herself in jail. I wish one of them would flip, ideally Charlie so Donna’s time wouldn’t be shortened. She was/is the master manipulator and she set this in motion.

She did it so she could have the grandchildren close by and now she can’t see them at all. When there is a risk to lose the very thing you want (grandchildren), a moral person wouldn’t make crime an option. Her hate was deeply rooted.

 

[LinasK]

If he really


I have to admit I don't understand the dynamics of this family. RA was so easily discarded from the family. DA encouraged her son and daughter to embark on a murder for hire plot, knowing if caught they'd die in prison. You hear the devastation in her voice when CA is convicted. You could see the simpering joy she had when she saw her beloved daughter take the stand in her trial. She clearly loves her husband, but dragged him into this...

So I'm conflicted. They are bad people with many subhuman traits, but they have connections and bonds with one another. Bonds that I don't understand. I would speculate that they're toxic bonds; for instance their mutual hatred of Dan perhaps brought them closer, but they are bonds that could easily be broken.

I think DA would throw WA and CA under the bus, but only if the circumstances were right. So probably unlikely for that to happen. CA might thrown WA under the bus. Again the stars would all have to be in alignment for that to happen. Overall, as I've said previously, they carry a deep shame in that they do not want the boys knowing what they did and also perhaps their friends too. So they plead guilty as a last, desperate resort.

Simple- they are narcissists who feel entitled. They do not think they will get caught. Reasonable people think about consequences of committing crimes and refrain from doing them. Donna thought she'd simply flee the country to a non-extradition county and she and Harvey would be home-free. Charlie didn't think that they had any evidence on him.

 

[LinasK]

Simple- they are narcissists who feel entitled. They do not think they will get caught. Reasonable people think about consequences of committing crimes and refrain from doing them. Donna thought she'd simply flee the country to a non-extradition county and she and Harvey would be home-free. Charlie didn't think that they had any evidence on him.

Should read country, not county, too late to edit...

 

[BearWatcher]

Don't think they will let a murderer out of jail, particularly with this heinous crime and the likelihood he would go after those who tested against him. But do think a nicer location or setting might be enough to turn in your family member who clearly threw you under the bus on day one.

 

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Don't think they will let a murderer out of jail, particularly with this heinous crime and the likelihood he would go after those who tested against him.

Not to mention the likelihood that the extortionists would carry out their threat to kill him!

LOL.