FL - Jennifer Kesse, 24, Orlando, 24 Jan 2006 - #11

[marable]

Could it be that he/she is calling work that he is on his way to work? Or, is it more sinister, perhaps calling someone to say that he has just dropped Jenn's car off at the HOG and he is on his way back to the Mosaic? I have always felt that the POI(s) came into Jenn's apartment to abduct her and/ or returned to her apartment to clean and straighten the apartment up and take a shower. Have just never believed that her shower would be dripping wet that many hours after Jenn showered and her parents arrived there....I also think that it is possible that the POI(s) never expected the Kesse's to respond as quickly as they did to Jenn's disappearance.

How I hope that 2016 is Jenn's year!

 

[rubylulu19]

Could it be that he/she is calling work that he is on his way to work? Or, is it more sinister, perhaps calling someone to say that he has just dropped Jenn's car off at the HOG and he is on his way back to the Mosaic? I have always felt that the POI(s) came into Jenn's apartment to abduct her and/ or returned to her apartment to clean and straighten the apartment up and take a shower. Have just never believed that her shower would be dripping wet that many hours after Jenn showered and her parents arrived there....I also think that it is possible that the POI(s) never expected the Kesse's to respond as quickly as they did to Jenn's disappearance.

How I hope that 2016 is Jenn's year!

I personally don't think he took a shower there. He could leave all kinds of evidence in it I just don't see him risking that. Maybe if he was in her apartment, he just let the shower run with nobody in it so he could make people think Jen had been in it

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[rubylulu19]

I am still on forum #4 so I have years worth more reading to do. On forum #4 u guys were talking about him holding a gun bag or something, and also the parcel. Of he is holding those then he can't be holding a phone. Unless he is using his shoulder to balance the phone to his ear. But then his shoulders wouldn't look so straight on the cctv

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[rubylulu19]

Gym bag not gun bag!! Damn autocorrect

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[STANDREID]

To me, most clearly in the negative image, it looks like the party's arm is at their side. In my view, the dark area near the ear in the first image is part of the hinge on the gate. It's still there at the hinge in the second image after the person has passed.

 

[rubylulu19]

To me, most clearly in the negative image, it looks like the party's arm is at their side. In my view, the dark area near the ear in the first image is part of the hinge on the gate. It's still there at the hinge in the second image after the person has passed.

Yep that's the gate but if u zoom in and look to the left of the hinge u can see something white at his ear

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[rubylulu19]

I'm the last photo

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[rubylulu19]

In** grr.

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[rubylulu19]

If Jen had a shower that morning there could have been a knock at the door right after her shower? Maybe the guy was stood outside listening and knocked as soon as the shower stopped? What did Jen usually wear straight after a bath/shower? Her parents might know from when she lived at home. Did she usually exit the bathroom wearing her pyjamas? Did she put her normal clothes on before leaving the bathroom? Or did she just use a towel and then get dressed in her room? I myself put my pyjamas back on and then walk back to my room to get dressed in my clothes. Am I correct that her clothes were layed out in the bed? I am a little confused about the clothes. Can someone fill me in? I know her work clothes from the day before were over her chair.

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[marable]

As I recall, several outfits were on her unmade bed, like she was trying to choose which to wear. Underwear and pj's on the bathroom floor, towel draped over the dryer, make up and hair dryer out in the bathroom.

 

[STANDREID]

Yep that's the gate but if u zoom in and look to the left of the hinge u can see something white at his ear

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I thought that was just some pixelation in the camera but who knows maybe it could be something.

 

[marable]

The thing that gets me about Jenn opening her door early in the morning is the fact that she was already "spooked" by some of the workers at her condo. Apparently she was stared at, endured cat calls etc. I am wondering if any of these behaviors progressed to something more sinister?? Stalking? Was she being watched, ie, the time she left for work, returned from work?

Is it just a coincidence that she disappears the day after she returns from her St. Croix vacation? Or, was her going away with Rob for a few days the tipping point that pushed an admirer over the edge? A coworker that she had words with on previous occasions?

If this coworker was this strung out, unstable , could he have been the one who caused Jenn to become uneasy at her condo? Could he have had access to her condo, going in and going through her things, moving little things about? Perhaps , he could have had a key made to her place if she was one who might leave her car or house keys on her desk while she went to meetings elsewhere?

To me, whoever abducted Jenn, if she were abducted outside of her condo that morning.... has amazing luck not to be seen by other workers at that time of the morning.

 

[rubylulu19]

Maybe she was abducted when she was wearing a towel then. If there was 1 towel in her apartment then that could have been for her hair. She could have been wearing another one when opening the door or something

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[rubylulu19]

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[rubylulu19]

Either way I think Jen did have a shower that morning . I don't think an abductor would care to run the shower, or maybe even put her clothes out himself, because he risks putting his DNA on things when he doesn't have to? Why put your DNA on things when you can just put a weapon on her and leave. The only way I would expect DNA to be in someone's apartment is if the person was actually killed at home and left there and the killer cleaned up and moved things. It just doesn't make sense in an abduction case to me.

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[CanManEh]

Maybe he raped her and made her take a bath / shower to get rid of any traces of his dna on or inside her....

 

[rubylulu19]

We're any of her clothes missing from her apartment? Or any towels? I can't understand what she was wearing . surely he cannot have abducted her naked she must have been wearing something?? That's why I come down to it being a towel because she probably had numerous towels in her bathroom and if her dryer was out and there was a towel next to her dryer then she must have washed her hair which leaves her wearing one on her body aswell. This is so confusing and I bet she it finally comes out what happened to her and who did it it is going to be so simple.

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[marable]

I have wondered if she were forced to take a shower to destroy dna evidence as well.

The last known contact with Jenn was around 10 pm Monday night AND her cell phone battery was removed around that time I believe. From 10 pm Monday to around 10 or 11 am when she missed a meeting , there is no telling what went down in that apartment. Could someone have hidden in a closet waiting for the best time to abduct Jenn?

To me, someone that lived at the Mosaic or was coming to work that morning would have seen or heard something if she were abducted outside of her condo?.? I suppose that it is possible that Jenn was carried out rolled up in carpet.

Jenn's mother said that when they arrived at Jenn's condo that it was "maid clean". I would love to know if the condo looked to Logan when he arrived that Tuesday morning the way he and his friends had left it after they cleaned up from their weekend there.

Also, I have never read anywhere anything about Jenn's security alarm being set when the Kesse's asked the condo managers to make a "wellness check" as they were driving to Jenn's that Tuesday morning.

I know that if I lived alone in a place where I did not feel safe, that alarm would be set, if it wasn't , I don't believe Jenn left there on her own that morning.

I sure would not leave that condo in the early am or the night before to mail Logan's friends phone when I could mail it from the office on Tuesday am.

Just my opinion for what it is worth, nothing unfortunately.

 

[Myserty64]

I'm just guessing but I think she was abducted at her car.
These abductions happen very quickly and can be measured in seconds.

Was there a guard on duty at the gate? Did he not see her car?

There is more information available but it has not been independently verified as being accurate.
There was talk of a man's sweater being found in her condo.

Who held master keys to the condos?
If the abduction didn't happen at the car it could have been in the condo.

Why can't LE officially confirm where her phone last pinged? What time was the last ping?

So many questions; so few answers.

 

[CanManEh]

Here's another shot from the cheap seats over here lol...Bare with me as this is just a thought remember jenn getting home from the cacation and i remember her saying she was so jet legged that she was going right to bed . But remember she let her brother live in her appt and have friends over .Well I recall like i said her being so tired so imagine your dead exhausted and then u have to get back up and drive your little brother home and then she had to drive around trying to find a place so she could mail her brothers friend cell phone.So you have your brother college aged kid and his buddies living there for 2 weeks i have a feeling that her place would be quite the mess now take in to coincedence that she is so tired and the phone rings its her bf .you just spent 2 weeks with each other every second of the day she lets him go pretty fast cause she just wants to hit the hay she is that tired..This is the reason I am thinking why the towels were damp and all over she was putting it off till the next day however she never got that chance... Taking all that into effect we may have to rethink our time lineand the condition of her place..Again these are just some of my random thoughts ........