FL - Jennifer Kesse, 24, Orlando, 24 Jan 2006 - #6

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  • #221
I agree, Bobbisangel. They need to come to a realization and call in EquuSearch to help find Jenn. Their expertise is so valuable and if she is out there waiting to be found...they can bring her home. It wouldn't at all surprise me to find her very near to where she was abducted. They won't have the evidence they need until they find her to find out who her perp is.

While it is okay to remain hopeful, it should not dictate the way the investigation should go. I believe they are looking at recovery now and not a rescue.

They are home, is my understanding. I don't know if they kept her apartment, but I think they did.
 
  • #222
Local 6 PM News Today, July 22 - Channel 9 - WFTV - Orlando

Quote:
"On Tuesday, a local high profile Orlando cold case will become part of a new inititive that gets jail inmates to talk. Jennifer Kesse disappeared from her condo in January of last year. This disappearance is one of 104 unsolved cases featured on playing cards that will be distributed to state inmates. The custom cards have already generated leads during a trial run in Polk County in South Florida."

Film showed the playing cards to be distributed.

Rum Tum
 
  • #223
Decks of playing cards with Jennifer's picture and information has been distributed to area jails since September 2006, (ten months ago). It was a good idea, however, I don't think it helped.

Link:
http://www.local6.com/news/9939461/detail.html
 
  • #224
I don't know...it would bother me to have such men drooling over pictures of my daughter. <shivers>
 
  • #225
I don't know...it would bother me to have such men drooling over pictures of my daughter. <shivers>


yeah but good luck finding her when you get outta prison!

it was a good idea but a long shot anyways. those types of things are always long shots but it's worth a try.

the new video initially brought attention back to the JK case but now that's run its course and it's not being talked about much any more.

I can't believe they would turn down EquuSearch. And it's just plain stupid of the family to not wanna use EquuSearch cause they are looking for an alive person (if that's the case) and definitely stupid of the cops too. How could it hurt???? It's great to be optomistic but realize it's 1 in a million she's still alive. Have all bases covered just like the others said.


they screwed up with the "POI" photos. the photos they showed to the public on tv, in person, on the internet, were useless. here's what they should've done.

1)show the video and the pictures right away. your trap will not work. even the dumbest criminal would not fall for that "well maybe he'll think we just think he's a Person of Interest and he'll voluntarily come talk to us" No way. Everybody can put 2 and 2 together, there's only one way that "POI" could've been the "POI" and that's if he was seen driving the car in there at the same time, we all knew this like a year before the video was released. I'm sure everyone else did too. He was never a person of interest, he was a suspect and should've been called one publicly early on. there must be some other information the cops can hold back so they don't reveal everything they've got.

2)the pics suck without blowing them up. nothing wrong with blowing up the pictures. it's not altering them in any way. the blown up pictures are much more revealing. you'd think law enforcement would be able to do that too and instead of all these posters and pictures shown up on the news and Dateline, etc, they should have the type of photos shown that rd has done. everything, tv, media, internet, moving billboard, the original photos are not enough.

3)the height of the suspect is all wrong wrong wrong. I tip my hat to the posters (too many to name) who pointed this out a long time ago. I wanted to think the authorities got that down but nope. I finally looked into it and concur with left, myserty, catlynette, rd, etc, etc. Bravo. He's between 5'9"-5'11" average male height.

4.Reward. The idea of a reward is for greed to overcome friendship, for somebody close to the suspect to drop a dime. $1 million for the safe return of Jennifer Kesse is wonderful. However there should've been something like $500,000 for information leading to the suspect or to the location of Jennifer. If not $500,000 then $250,000 or even $100,000. If the guy putting up a million bucks for her safe return is willing to do that, he should have no problem with a lesser reward for any real information. It's noble of him to have put up the million, however everybody knows the odds of her being alive is a million to one at best. Sounds like the employer just wanted to make it look like a good deed was being done. It is a good deed...kind of. Would've been much better with another offer re: the suspect of JK's location. As opposed to the lousy $15,000 bucks? They hardly even advertised that and it's a crappy reward. Somebody just might turn in a buddy or something for a quarter mil. Probably wouldn't have mattered but it's a much better chance than the current thing.

5.This whole EquuSearch refusal is awfully disturbing. Why turn down free help? I read this about them: TES has gained a reputation as a well-equipped organization which can deploy resources such as radar, sonar, dive or dog teams, and vehicles ranging from ATVs to boatshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boats to aircraft to remotely operated vehicles.

sounds like a marvelous organization. founded by a man who's daughter was abducted and murdered.
 
  • #226
yeah but good luck finding her when you get outta prison!

it was a good idea but a long shot anyways. those types of things are always long shots but it's worth a try.

the new video initially brought attention back to the JK case but now that's run its course and it's not being talked about much any more.

I can't believe they would turn down EquuSearch. And it's just plain stupid of the family to not wanna use EquuSearch cause they are looking for an alive person (if that's the case) and definitely stupid of the cops too. How could it hurt???? It's great to be optomistic but realize it's 1 in a million she's still alive. Have all bases covered just like the others said.


they screwed up with the "POI" photos. the photos they showed to the public on tv, in person, on the internet, were useless. here's what they should've done.

1)show the video and the pictures right away. your trap will not work. even the dumbest criminal would not fall for that "well maybe he'll think we just think he's a Person of Interest and he'll voluntarily come talk to us" No way. Everybody can put 2 and 2 together, there's only one way that "POI" could've been the "POI" and that's if he was seen driving the car in there at the same time, we all knew this like a year before the video was released. I'm sure everyone else did too. He was never a person of interest, he was a suspect and should've been called one publicly early on. there must be some other information the cops can hold back so they don't reveal everything they've got.

2)the pics suck without blowing them up. nothing wrong with blowing up the pictures. it's not altering them in any way. the blown up pictures are much more revealing. you'd think law enforcement would be able to do that too and instead of all these posters and pictures shown up on the news and Dateline, etc, they should have the type of photos shown that rd has done. everything, tv, media, internet, moving billboard, the original photos are not enough.

3)the height of the suspect is all wrong wrong wrong. I tip my hat to the posters (too many to name) who pointed this out a long time ago. I wanted to think the authorities got that down but nope. I finally looked into it and concur with left, myserty, catlynette, rd, etc, etc. Bravo. He's between 5'9"-5'11" average male height.

4.Reward. The idea of a reward is for greed to overcome friendship, for somebody close to the suspect to drop a dime. $1 million for the safe return of Jennifer Kesse is wonderful. However there should've been something like $500,000 for information leading to the suspect or to the location of Jennifer. If not $500,000 then $250,000 or even $100,000. If the guy putting up a million bucks for her safe return is willing to do that, he should have no problem with a lesser reward for any real information. It's noble of him to have put up the million, however everybody knows the odds of her being alive is a million to one at best. Sounds like the employer just wanted to make it look like a good deed was being done. It is a good deed...kind of. Would've been much better with another offer re: the suspect of JK's location. As opposed to the lousy $15,000 bucks? They hardly even advertised that and it's a crappy reward. Somebody just might turn in a buddy or something for a quarter mil. Probably wouldn't have mattered but it's a much better chance than the current thing.

5.This whole EquuSearch refusal is awfully disturbing. Why turn down free help? I read this about them: TES has gained a reputation as a well-equipped organization which can deploy resources such as radar, sonar, dive or dog teams, and vehicles ranging from ATVs to boatshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boats to aircraft to remotely operated vehicles.

sounds like a marvelous organization. founded by a man who's daughter was abducted and murdered.


It is. They've done great work in the past. But I saw the same thing with the DC police in Chandra's case. They turned down multiple professional dog search teams who volunteered to search Rock Creek Park, with the same statement Orlando police made. We've already searched.

Agreed with all your points, Enrique, but two things for us to note - Orlando authorities stated after the video was released that they have received tips with more specific details than in the past, and they stated not long ago that they would be searching local bodies of water again with sonar technology.

So my take is that they are proceeding with an investigation and doing new things, not just waiting for a dime to be dropped, which with near total silence sounds like it.

rd
 
  • #227
Well I didn't mean to say they're just sitting on their asses and waiting for somebody to bring them a smoking gun. Just that I'd go about the reward thing differently. that's not really law enforcement's thing though. they weren't the ones offering a reward.

that's great news about receiving new tips since the release of the video. doesn't that just make it more obvious they should've done it much earlier though? And it's also promising they're finally gonna start checking some local bodies of water. so many of them in Florida.
 
  • #228
yes, I agree, it does show they should have released the video from the beginning and got the tips "with more specific detail" a year and a half ago, when Jennifer disappeared.

rd
 
  • #229
Well I didn't mean to say they're just sitting on their asses and waiting for somebody to bring them a smoking gun. Just that I'd go about the reward thing differently. that's not really law enforcement's thing though. they weren't the ones offering a reward.

that's great news about receiving new tips since the release of the video. doesn't that just make it more obvious they should've done it much earlier though? And it's also promising they're finally gonna start checking some local bodies of water. so many of them in Florida.

Yeah but they interviewed LE in south Florida for another missing persons case, Stepha Henry, and they said there are too many bodies of water in Florida to search every single one of them.

So, they REALLY need Equusearch to help out which makes it all the more bewildering why they refuse FREE help???

Plus wouldn't a body have been eaten or completely decomposed by now in Florida's warm tropical climate?
 
  • #230
Same as on land, they'd just be looking for a skeleton, sad as that is to say. Of course, as long they don't find anything, she could still be alive.

rd
 
  • #231
There could be evidence such as her wallet, the cellphones, a weapon, etc.
 
  • #232
AT this point, how is any idea, a bad idea?

Heck, if some guy with a crystal ball showed up at my doorstep, I'd ask him to look into it for JK.

The more ideas, the more people, the more media, the better chance of finding answers.

When cases like this are kept close to the vest, it really concerns me.

We are 18 months out, let's get realistic, yet, remain hopeful, and find Jk or the dirtbag POI.

OPD tell us "one" thing, that has been tried, one new idea, one new approach, since the last news conference.

I'm telling ya, I know at least 10 detectives, who could go down to Orlando, give them access to interview people, HOTG tapes, etc, and they could find that POI in 60 days. I know they could. I at least know they wouldn't go home until they did find the POI, and that is what we need.

We need a detective, who won't stop until the case is solved.

I just don't get it. THis is not, that hard of a case to solve.

It's not an easy case, but, it certainly isn't the most difficult either.

Somebody must have called in a tip, and if they haven't, it is because the description they were given is incorrect. imo

Tomorrow is 18 months. My heart goes out to Rob, and the Kesse's.

left
 
  • #233
Lovely post, Leftcoast. I agree.
 
  • #234
From www.findjenniferkesse.com

July 24, 2007
Tuesday July 24, 2007 marks 1 ½ years, to the day, since Jennifer was Taken against her will from in or around her condo in Orlando, Fl.. We, her family, Police, friends, volunteers and people all over the world who simply care, continue in the fight to find Jennifer and will not stop until we find her, the Prime Suspect and answers. There are many people, organizations and companies to thank for all they have done for Jennifer and our family during this very trying time, you know who you are and we cannot continue this fight without you. We ask that you continue to help spread the awareness of Jennifer's abduction through any and every means viable - media, internet, personal conversations, work meetings, adding Jennifer's website to your email signature, youtube, facebook, myspace, fliers at work, on cars, public places, etc…. Our best chance to find Jennifer is through public awareness and it is working. Tips continue to come in on a daily basis even after all this time, a true testament to your efforts and persistence in keeping her story in the public's eyes and minds and the willingness of people to report what they know.
We ask that this Tuesday, July 24, 2007, you take the time, in some way, to expand the awareness of Jennifer's abduction. Be it by flier, word of mouth, email or any other means, bring attention to her abduction and the battle she faces or faced every minute of every day. Don't let evil win this fight!
We have utilized many different programs such as, billboards, fliers, matchbooks, playing cards, public service announcements, large rewards, TV, Radio, newspapers, banner flying plane, jumbtron ads, holding signs at corners, mobile billboards, speaking engagements, health fairs, business cards, P.O. Box for tips, family private tip line, children's fingerprinting events, ground searches by volunteers, NASCAR, Comedy for the Cause - Missing People (Improv Comedy Club), website, blogs, webcasts, legislation and the list goes on. Collectively these efforts keep Jennifer's story very much alive and will in the long run bring her back to us where she belongs.
Words cannot describe our heartfelt thanks to each and every one of you. The Kesse's

There are also letters from Jennifer's grandmother and a family friend at the website at www.findjenniferkesse.com. Please take the time to read them and also take the time to pass on Jenn's infromation to someone you know and ask them to pass it on and so forth.

Praying for answers...
 
  • #235
I was watching a story on an airplane crash when it came to me...they have black boxes IN CARS. I wonder if LE ever checked to see if Jenn's had one or looked into it?!

http://carscarscars.blogs.com/index/2004/08/black_boxes_in_.html

GM has quietly installed different versions of the sensing system on some cars throughout the 1990s, but the modules have become more sophisticated over time. Their existence became public in a paper written by GM and government engineers and presented at a conference last month.​
 
  • #236
I was watching a story on an airplane crash when it came to me...they have black boxes IN CARS. I wonder if LE ever checked to see if Jenn's had one or looked into it?!

http://carscarscars.blogs.com/index/2004/08/black_boxes_in_.html

GM has quietly installed different versions of the sensing system on some cars throughout the 1990s, but the modules have become more sophisticated over time. Their existence became public in a paper written by GM and government engineers and presented at a conference last month.​

But black boxes are used to help obtain info about the cause of car accidents and such especially when the driver is dead. However, if you mean the black box can tell you where the car has been driven I don't think they can give you such a precise reading on where exactly the car has been but it may be able to tell you the mileage and the general direction the car was driven.
 
  • #237
I am so thrilled that Jennifers Parents will be on Greta tonight at 10PM Eastern time.
Its time for renewing interest in the Media for help in finding Jennifer Keese.
Its not fair for any parent to have a daughter missing off the face of the
Earth.
I understand from the commercials that there is NEW information.
That would be great.
All we had before is a shadow of a person in the parking lot where her car was.
I had always wished one of the parents would come on here, like Rachael Cookes father did. It just helps to spread the word, worldwide.
Its hard to give up ones quiet, peaceful life.......to go so public.
Jennifer needs to be found.
Many on WS had worked hard to come up with information.........
and had many good helpful hints on spreading the word.
Praying for Jennifer and her family
 
  • #238
Just because Jenn's family isn't necessarily posting doesn't mean they aren't reading. Also a lot of people who have met the Kesse's are posting and will continue to do so until Jenn is brought home.

Please pass on Jenn's website- www.findjenniferkesse.com to everyone you know today. Send it to your local media, national media, etc. Keep Awareness Alive... for the Love of Jenn :)
 
  • #239
Sundayrain,
I also am glad Greta is featuring JK on her show.
Soooooo much time has lapsed, its a total long shot.
 
  • #240
Haven&#8217;t posted in a while but I have read with intrigue all the posts.

At the risk of sounding controversial does anyone else think Orlando PD might not want Equisearch involved because should they uncover a body they may have egg on their face? Particularly if a body was found very local?

Police authorities traditionally are very territorial and don&#8217;t like others be it the FBI or MI5 getting involved in their investigations.

This is mainly because they want to solve it themselves and they don&#8217;t want any potential mistakes they have made highlighted by others.

I can understand the Kesses not wanting to think that way but I think as horrendous as it would be to find a body it may bring some closure and when they hopefully don&#8217;t find one then the hope remains that she is alive.

My personal feelings are that from day one this investigation has been handled sloppily at best and hasn&#8217;t improved.

JKs apartment was not processed.

The &#8216;trap&#8217; set for the poi was a joke they were never going to come forward and the error should have been realised sooner with an earlier release of the car being parked footage.

If rd&#8217;s analysis is correct then why haven&#8217;t LE developed the pictures in the same way and released them?

If they have been this sloppy with certain aspects of the investigation then how thorough have they been with interviewing witnesses/checking out alibis etc?


With regard to DNA again if they are withholding the fact that they have it then I believe it to be another mistake.

This person is not going to come forward now so if you have DNA then state that fact to the public, you never know someone who may be suspicious of a friend/family member but hasn&#8217;t come forward would be more likely to do so with the ability to exonerate them from the investigation if innocent.

I am not anti Law Enforcement but I do think sometimes investigations are screwed up and I think there are clear signs that this one has not been handled the best.

This suspect is no master criminal for a start they have parked Jennifer&#8217;s car and walked in full view of CCTV.

The only way I can see a resolution to this case is a thorough reinvestigation from the start with some &#8216;fresh eyes&#8217; that or Jennifer&#8217;s discovery.

I still think this piece of filth is right under LE&#8217;s noses.
 
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