Found Deceased FL - Kelly Glover, 37, visiting from Utah, Ft Lauderdale, 9 Jan 2020

[Angleterre]

Heartbreaking for the family. She was in the prime of her life.

That said, foul play just doesn’t add up here. No video footage of another individual following her, no mention of a “person of interest” which you nearly always hear about from LE if they suspected it, no real evidence of any kind indicating that.

This seems like a tragic accident. I would bet heavily on that. Whether she was on something that altered her mental state or abilities is up in the air right now. Guessing she got too close to the water and either fell in or a gator got her, but if that were the case you’d expect the body to not be preserved because I doubt the gator would pull her into the water and then just let go and leave.

Suicide also really doesn’t make sense. It’s part of the human condition that if placed in a drowning situation your instinct is to thrash and fight to live. Drowning oneself is a very rare way to do it. I personally put the odds of it being an accident over 90% right now. Same with no foul play.

I respectfully disagree Re rarity of suicide by drowning as I have investigated many deaths both suspicious and non suspicious and many suicide cases and a
High percentage of those that I dealt with were suicide by drowning and by females. I had a number of them . but never males. Male suicides in my own experience would generally be considered more violent eg jump from height onto concrete, many many suicide by hanging, vehicular suicide and machinery operated suicide and jumping in front of a train...
Jmoo

 

[mrstfs]

I wonder if her water bottle was found?

 

[Checkcall]

I’m just going to throw this out because I saw this theory being bounced around locally (I live in Ft Lauderdale)...the friend she was staying with looks very similar in appearance- almost twin like. Are they positive based on a surveillance video which was probably grainy, that it was indeed Kelly and not her look a like friend going down the stairs?

Then how would Kelly get outside undetected?

 

[Checkcall]

I respectfully disagree Re rarity of suicide by drowning as I have investigated many deaths both suspicious and non suspicious and many suicide cases and a
High percentage of those that I dealt with were suicide by drowning and by females. I had a number of them . but never males. Male suicides in my own experience would generally be considered more violent eg jump from height onto concrete, many many suicide by hanging, vehicular suicide and machinery operated suicide and jumping in front of a train...
Jmoo

In the suicides by drowning were most a jump from higher elevation into the water? This would be a walk into the lagoon and submerge at a shallow depth.

 

[Carneceria]

Not sure if this has been posted yet. She sounds like such a sweet person. RIP, KG.

View Kelly Glover's Obituary on deseretnews.com and share memories

 

[Downtownbrown]

Then how would Kelly get outside undetected?

Was she ever confirmed inside the hotel after dinner by anyone other than the look a like friend?

 

[ACG2x]

I respectfully disagree Re rarity of suicide by drowning as I have investigated many deaths both suspicious and non suspicious and many suicide cases and a
High percentage of those that I dealt with were suicide by drowning and by females. I had a number of them . but never males. Male suicides in my own experience would generally be considered more violent eg jump from height onto concrete, many many suicide by hanging, vehicular suicide and machinery operated suicide and jumping in front of a train...
Jmoo

Fair enough - however most suicides by drowning are either when people tie heavy things around them to ensure they sink and don’t thrash for their life in the water which is a natural reaction or jump from a height large enough where the impact renders them incapacitated and unable to do so - for example jumping off a bridge or cruise ship deck.

This case has neither of those factors present. Add in KG’s own father saying she’s been a sleepwalker since she was a little girl and you have the ingredients for a tragic, tragic accident that I think we will learn was nearly unpreventable. There just is no evidence, factors or anything else to suggest suicide.

 

[Angleterre]

In the suicides by drowning were most a jump from higher elevation into the water? This would be a walk into the lagoon and submerge at a shallow depth.

No sadly they were a take my coat and shoes off and walk in scenario on nearly all occasions

 

[Angleterre]

Fair enough - however most suicides by drowning are either when people tie heavy things around them to ensure they sink and don’t thrash for their life in the water which is a natural reaction or jump from a height large enough where the impact renders them incapacitated and unable to do so - for example jumping off a bridge or cruise ship deck.

This case has neither of those factors present. Add in KG’s own father saying she’s been a sleepwalker since she was a little girl and you have the ingredients for a tragic, tragic accident that I think we will learn was nearly unpreventable. There just is no evidence, factors or anything else to suggest suicide.

Now I DO AGREE with the sleepwalking thing
My son has inherited it from his dad and both have gotten up and grabbed things and walked downstairs and in my ex husbands case he actually grabbed car keys and a bottle of water and was on his way out of the door in his undercrackers until I managed to intercept and stop him
But my son who has just turned thirteen has many times walked down the stairs and into the sitting room where I have been and I have had a full blown conversation with him and all that time he has his eyes wide open but he is still asleep
It’s very disconcerting
There’s been many an occasion on holiday in a hotel whereby he’s moved suitcases from in front of the door (put there to prevent him sleepwalking out without waking me up but I didn’t bank on him lifting them quietly), and walked off down the corridor and having an imaginary scuffle with the wall.
So if she has ever been sleepwalking then I believe that she could have done so on this occasion even grabbing her water bottle and shawl etc

 

[Angleterre]

hmmm...so her dad says she sleepwalked all throughout her childhood, but her husband says she never did. how can those 2 things be synonymous? can one outgrow sleepwalking? (honest question, i do not know.)

I have experienced it in fits and starts with both my ex husband and my teenager son
Both have had it all their lives and there can be huge gaps in between incidents and in my ex husbands case I’m talking years to the point where you think he’s past it all and then suddenly it will rear it’s head again
What I will say is that when it does reoccur then it’s usually in times of great stress happening at that time x

 

[Checkcall]

Was she ever confirmed inside the hotel after dinner by anyone other than the look a like friend?

Yes, by the camera in the stairwell and the door log which had her leaving at 1:48 am.

 

[Wowno17]

I think if someone did fall in water and they were asleep, I agree it would wake them.

But I find it very hard to believe someone would wake and survive. Surely if you fell in water and under the surface you would wake and the first thing your body would do would be take a big gulp of air (or water if under the surface).

So you would be drowning immediately having swallowed water surely.

My option only, just find it hard to believe someone would fall in water asleep and be able to wake and swim to safety.

 

[PhineasC]

I think if someone did fall in water and they were asleep, I agree it would wake them.

But I find it very hard to believe someone would wake and survive. Surely if you fell in water and under the surface you would wake and the first thing your body would do would be take a big gulp of air (or water if under the surface).

So you would be drowning immediately having swallowed water surely.

My option only, just find it hard to believe someone would fall in water asleep and be able to wake and swim to safety.

I have never suffered from sleepwalking (to my knowledge), but it does seem hard to believe falling into chilly water wouldn't wake you up enough to save yourself. Just based on pictures this doesn't look like particularly deep water, especially close to shore. Sleepwalking from her hotel room all the way out the door, across the pool deck, through the shrubbery, and into the water seems too hard to believe, but that's all we have right now. What a weird story.

 

[Rickymo]

Do you think this could rule out the ambien idea?

https://www.legacy.com/amp/obituaries/deseretnews/195046718

the location of her funeral suggests she’s Mormon. My understanding is that drinking, mid-altering substances, medicine, etc, is forbidden.

 

[DizzyB]

Ambien is a prescription drug, and LDS members are able to take meds. Most Ambien users that I know (myself included), have at least one story where they did things that they have no recollection of.

 

[Rickymo]

Ambien is a prescription drug, and LDS members are able to take meds. Most Ambien users that I know (myself included), have at least one story where they did things that they have no recollection of.

Thank you. I didn’t know that.

 

[Seattle1]

I think if someone did fall in water and they were asleep, I agree it would wake them.

But I find it very hard to believe someone would wake and survive. Surely if you fell in water and under the surface you would wake and the first thing your body would do would be take a big gulp of air (or water if under the surface).

So you would be drowning immediately having swallowed water surely.

My option only, just find it hard to believe someone would fall in water asleep and be able to wake and swim to safety.

^^bbm

KG's obituary states she was a surfer. I agree that it's hard to believe someone would sleepwalk into a lake and not swim to safety.

 

[Wowno17]

^^bbm

KG's obituary states she was a surfer. I agree that it's hard to believe someone would sleepwalk into a lake and not swim to safety.

What I meant but didn't do a good job of explaining, was I do think someone could sleepwalk into water. I do think someone would wake as soon as they hit the water.

My opinion here differs though, I think a person would instinctively gulp air and in turn be gulping water.
I just think if someone did sleepwalk into water they'd likely drown instead of being able to swim out. Combination of shock / cold water / disorientation / panicking / gulping water.



IMOO

 

[distracted]

I'm anxious to hear what the COD is.

In one of the MSM articles, it stated that she was there to do a photo shoot for her company, which I also read is close to the hotel. Maybe the photo shoot was taking place at the hotel.

So, if she wasn't sleepwalking, I wonder if she couldn't sleep and decided to go down and look at the pool area and have a look around, threw her legs in the water and a gator pulled her in.

I could see that happening. If a gator held on to her long enough, she might lose consciousness, even if she wasn't really hurt by it.

I remember when the little boy was killed at Disney World, it was said that gators don't really like people that much but wouldn't have stopped one from attacking a person, kill that person and then leave the person behind.

Just another theory waiting for the official COD.

 

[ACG2x]

What I meant but didn't do a good job of explaining, was I do think someone could sleepwalk into water. I do think someone would wake as soon as they hit the water.

My opinion here differs though, I think a person would instinctively gulp air and in turn be gulping water.
I just think if someone did sleepwalk into water they'd likely drown instead of being able to swim out. Combination of shock / cold water / disorientation / panicking / gulping water

Yup, it only takes approximately 60 seconds for an adult to drown. That doesn’t include circumstances that may have been present for KG such as suddenly falling in the water and being under the influence of a sleep aid. Once you hit, even if you come to a fully lucid state, there is the natural reaction of thrashing and needing to recognize what the hell is going on.

Even for an experienced swimmer, by the time that happens you almost halfway to the 60 seconds and she may have been under water at that point and never came to. We also don’t know if she hit her head, etc in the fall. Thinking about how easy it is to drown, these circumstances could have easily and sadly happened to KG.