Found Deceased FL - Kristina French, 53, Neptune Beach, 21 Nov 2017 *Arrest*

[dotr]

I'm not making a connection... Can you help explain the relevance? Thx!

There is a continuing huge presence of LE in the Seminole H. area right now due to recent shootings, if L went in that direction he would likely be
spotted.imo, speculation.

 

[Jennifer17]

'Please call me. I will help you': Mother pleads for missing son to reach out to her

Story updated 8:37 pm local time

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/news/l...for-safe-return-of-son-grandmother/652966573#

Doesn't that break your heart?

 

[MsMarple]

Sandalwood is an Early College high school (I believe there are five in the county) but I don't think they start the program until 11th grade (same with Dual Enrollment which is by far the more widely utilized program in Duval County). From where his dad lives his area high school is Fletcher so he either started at Sandalwood so he could begin the EC program when he entered 11th grade or he was there on special assignment.

This whole story gave me a bad feeling from the start and my heart really goes out to Kristina's son who has lost his mom and will lose his son one way or another if he is responsible for this awful situation.

Here's the info on the program:

https://dcps.duvalschools.org/domain/9879

It looks like the program isn't especially difficult to qualify for but the required classes for 9th and 10th grade before the actual AA and AS level classes begin in 11th grade are all honors classes, which can be quite challenging to a student.

9th Grade – AA Program
English I Honors/English II Honors
Geometry Honors or Algebra II Honors
Biology Honors or Chemistry Honors
World History Honors or AP World
US Government Honors/SLS 1103
HOPE
World Language
Elective

9th Grade – AS Program
English I Honors/English II Honors
Geometry Honors/Algebra II Honors
Biology Honors or Chemistry Honors
World History Honors or AP World
IT Fundamentals for Cybersecurity
SLS 1103
HOPE

 

[Dixie811]

I think you hit the nail on the head. His anger issues aren't even remotely surprising. He may blame his mother's new family; her younger children and their father should probably be in protective custody.

I think on the first day they were missing it was reported that there were protective officers watching mom’s home.

 

[LisaWL7TR]

Kristina's facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/kristina.french.58
Logan's facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/logan.mott.311

In the,very beginning his fb wolf pic and quote concerned me.
I also noted it didnt appear that he was friends with his grandmother or mom on fb. I guess not a big deal as you can be friends and block what they see.

Just my observances earlier today-afterwards I felt he was the one that texted Dad so no one would be sent to check up on the two.imho

I also thought he was a little old to have his grandmother stay with him while Dad was gone. I guess it depends on how long Dad was gone. We use to have a paper with guidelines/rules for leaving kids home alone at what age for different circumtances when we lived in military housing.

I do feel for this young man of only 15.

ETA My thoughts and prayers are with these families. RIP Kristina 🥀

 

[MsMarple]

They found it on Thursday evening. Police were only called on Wednesday a little after 2pm. So it wasn't 3 days.

Oops, you're right! I guess it just feels like days and days.

 

[Dixie811]

I think it makes sense that his grandma stayed with him. He was just a freshman and didn’t even have a driver’s license. I’m not even sure he had bus service for school since he went to a magnet outside of his neighborhood? Plus I think dad was gone over a week.

I hope this young man can be found soon. IMO, he looks older than 15 with a buzz cut. He might be able to “blend” as someone older for a while... rather than people wondering if he is old enough to be driving, etc.

I wonder if he has ever shown interest in NYC. Whether he would try to disappear there?

 

[Wyle_E_Coyote]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/case-o...dson-takes-grim-turn-after-body-found-buried/

Lendvay said investigators uncovered evidence of foul play and "possible criminal violence" inside the home,*

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[katydid23]

I think it's totally unfair to blame the parents.People act like the dad left him on the streets.He let him for short time with his loving grandma.The kid was lucky to have people in his life that loved him which many kids don't.I feel bad for the actual victim which is Kristina.No excuses.

I am not intending to place blame. Just trying to understand how this might have unfolded. It is a very extreme and desperate act, and had to be building for awhile. Being with Grandma is fine. But if a 15 yr old has been stuck in the middle of a long, drawn out divorce, is hundreds of miles away from his mother, and is having some issues at school, then spending Thanksgiving home alone with Grandma might make a troubled teen feel sad or depressed. And sadly, 'loving' your child is not always enough.

 

[katydid23]

I thought that it was 1 1/2 years. Why would any divorce take 11 1/2 years?

I don't think it could be 1 and 1/2 years because she has 3 kids under 5. But who knows...?

 

[JaxFlaGal]

I'm really curious as to why it took LE about 3 days to find the shallow grave of Kristina in the backyard. How hidden was it?

I am not sure what time Kristina's son made it home Wednesday after not being picked up at the airport as expected. I think it was after dark, but don't quote me on that - LEO timeline will help a lot. However, there was extensive, continuous rain in Duval County on Thursday (I posted stats upthread). Given the weather, it is possible that A) the grave was not visible for water pooling in the yard (local news specialist (a retired local LEO) hypothesized that cadaver dogs might have been impacted by the water from the rain, too) or B) a grave was suspected but could not be thoroughly investigated until the rains subsided late Thursday/early Friday.

I suspect B.

I am just west of Jax. I had bushes removed from yard on Wednesday - left me with a mud bog from Thursday's rains that didn't drain until mid-morning on Friday. I couldn't tell how disturbed the soil really was until this AM. The rest of Jax had about the same amount of rain as I did.

 

[katydid23]

I think that he is far more likely to harm himself than anyone else and may have already done so.

I would have believed that more before we heard about the shallow grave...:rose:

 

[Jethro4WS]

I don't think it could be 1 and 1/2 years because she has 3 kids under 5. But who knows...?

The court record for the divorce starts in December of 2004 and the last docket entry (there are 201 of them) is in June of 2016. You have to register but the Duval County Clerk of Court case search will bring it up.

 

[MsMarple]

I am not intending to place blame. Just trying to understand how this might have unfolded. It is a very extreme and desperate act, and had to be building for awhile. Being with Grandma is fine. But if a 15 yr old has been stuck in the middle of a long, drawn out divorce, is hundreds of miles away from his mother, and is having some issues at school, then spending Thanksgiving home alone with Grandma might make a troubled teen feel sad or depressed. And sadly, 'loving' your child is not always enough.

Remember though that dad returned home Wednesday. I don't know if he had Thanksgiving plans that included Logan but he would have been home for the holiday.

What scares me (as a mom and grandma) is the lack of clear signs that something was wrong. Logan appeared fine to his mom on Sunday. No signs (so far) that he was on drugs. Kristina sounds like a typical loving grandma. And not to pooh-pooh the impact of divorce but the majority of teens cope well enough and don't commit homicide (allegedly). So what went wrong? Was it long time coming? Did something specific happen?

:tears:

 

[Deleted member 50844]

The court record for the divorce starts in December of 2004 and the last docket entry (there are 201 of them) is in June of 2016. You have to register but the Duval County Clerk of Court case search will bring it up.

I was able to sign up, login and view the records earlier today, but now when I put in the last name, it brings up "No cases found", weird.

 

[katydid23]

The court record for the divorce starts in December of 2004 and the last docket entry (there are 201 of them) is in June of 2016. You have to register but the Duval County Clerk of Court case search will bring it up.

The only reason a divorce takes that long, when there is only one kid, and not tremendous wealth, is if the couple is bickering over petty issues, in my opinion. It's not like they have a huge family business, 4 mansions and a dozen exotic cars to fight over. One or both of them must have been very difficult to negotiate with or was making impossible demands for it to drag on for this long. JMO

 

[katydid23]

Remember though that dad returned home Wednesday. I don't know if he had Thanksgiving plans that included Logan but he would have been home for the holiday.

What scares me (as a mom and grandma) is the lack of clear signs that something was wrong. Logan appeared fine to his mom on Sunday. No signs (so far) that he was on drugs. Kristina sounds like a typical loving grandma. And not to pooh-pooh the impact of divorce but the majority of teens cope well enough and don't commit homicide (allegedly). So what went wrong? Was it long time coming? Did something specific happen?

:tears:

As a child of divorce I can say that it was probably not the actual Holiday itself, Thursday, that might have been painful for him. It was possibly the overall situation. He is in an empty home, with grandma babysitting him. In his mind, both his parents were possibly distracted by their 'new' lives. They were innocently unaware but I still believe that he felt like 'a lone wolf.'

I think there were 'clear signs' that things were not right for quite awhile. Just because Mom says 'he was fine' does not mean he was fine. His Mom lives far away and has 3 new babies and has a whole different life. Calling your Mom and saying 'HI' is not that fulfilling for a 15 yr old that is having difficulties in school and at home and in life in general.

I think the most difficult time in my son's life was around age 15. He pretty much hated me and hubby, locked himself in his room and blasted Eminem for endless hours---but he did still 'need us' to be there--down the hall. It is a tumultuous time.

I say that as a child of divorce and remember still how painful it was--especially for my younger brother. A lot of 'ugly, messy' issues are revealed and it haunts a child to have to see those things about those who you love and rely upon. And you may feel abandoned and alone, in spite of them saying they love you.

I know plenty of kids that live through divorced families and do fine with it. But a lot has to do with how the families deal with it and how they care for and nurture their child. When one parent moves out of state and has a few new children it can be very stressful--especially if the child is not thriving in the other home. JMO

 

[Jethro4WS]

I was able to sign up, login and view the records earlier today, but now when I put in the last name, it brings up "No cases found", weird.

I just logged in and checked it is still coming up for me. Make sure you use the last name and first name fields (I use the father's name) on the convoluted search screen.

 

[SeesSeas]

I was able to sign up, login and view the records earlier today, but now when I put in the last name, it brings up "No cases found", weird.

I was just now able to view the case without registering. Public access button.

 

[Jennifer17]

I don't think it could be 1 and 1/2 years because she has 3 kids under 5. But who knows...?

I think that you misunderstood me. Someone claimed that the divorce took 11 (eleven) and a half years. Is that even possible?