Found Deceased FL - Lane Graves, 2, Walt Disney World, 14 June 2016 #1

[GeeEm]

He is a judge. And if there is no way to estimate the worth of the life of a child, because it is priceless, then don't sue.

Grieve and keep it private, since a loss of that magnitude can't be measured in dollars.

Problem solved.

I personally wouldn't sue, I was only talking about the law/insurance and the Judge that was being informative.

IMO I can't even imagine this freak accident.

RIP dear Lane🌹

Thanks Sonya610

 

[perfectingpink]

Family of Boy Killed by Alligator Near Disney Resort Speaks Out

"Words cannot describe the shock and grief our family is experiencing over the loss of our son. We are devastated and ask for privacy during this extremely difficult time. To all of the local authorities and staff who worked tirelessly these past 24 hours, we express our deepest gratitude,” the statement said.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/family-boy-killed-alligator-disney-resort-speaks/story?id=39912506

 

[Ray_of_hope]

My mom almost drowned as a child and she said she was scared a bout 30 seconds and then it was peaceful. She was saved though.

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Same thing happened to me. When I was young and lived on a lake, I dove off of our raft and came up under it. At first I panicked and then knew I was going to drown. I didn't know which way to go and was out of air. It was peaceful and no pain until my sister, the lifeguard, figured out what happened. How she found me, the lake wasn't crystal clear at all, I will never know but then it hurt when I was resuscitated. It made me much less fearful of dying itself.

 

[Ray_of_hope]

It's a manmade "lake/lagoon" and alligators are crafty buggers they sneak into any body of water, even shallow ditches have gators hiding out. I still think Disney should put up big signs and constantly remove all gators though.

That's true and they love retention ponds. Any source of water is a potential home. And they serve a function. They maintain and keep water holes as well as the ecosystem.
"Though many people find alligators terrifying, the wondrous reptiles help maintain a critical balance in our ecosystem. They feed rapaciously on invasive nutrias, which cause horrific damage to wetlands by denuding their vegetation, and they also tunnel deep depressions that provide reservoirs during droughts. These "gator holes" can be a source of lifesaving water for fish, birds, turtles and other creatures."
I also agree that signs need to be in place. People from other areas don't know about alligators and shouldn't be expected to know about them.

http://www.houstonchronicle.com/life/article/Gators-serve-a-purpose-in-our-environment-4279971.php

 

[AmyPond]

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/busi...ator-attack-signs-warning-20160616-story.html

WDW plans to put up signs warning of alligators.

 

[cvaldez1975]

I agreed with ray_of_hope on that earlier. even if I only got a piece of my baby back, id want to hold it. it would drive me crazy not to get my baby's body back in entirety, I was really relieved for this family that he was intact.

a friend of mine had a stillborn at term and I don't think she will ever be the same. she posted the pix of her holding the newborn baby born sleeping on her fb. it was so so sad.

Sadly, in my line of work we deal with still births. Some of these angels have been deceased for weeks. While they may not be "ok enough" to others, to the parents they are still their baby and 99% of them still want to hold, cradle and cry with their baby. How long is up to the mother and father, sometimes it's minutes but more often it's hours. We take photos for them and often they take some of their own. We make every attempt to dress the infant for the photos. It helps them grieve and say goodbye. I truly hope this was allowed for this family.

 

[LaborDayRN]

OT--Thanks, LDRN. I'm glad you enjoyed it here. We do live in a beautiful place! On the flip side of the coin, when I worked at the Festival a patron became irate because a bird "traumatized" her child by dropping some poop on her head as it flew through the outdoor theatre. The patron felt that the birds should be controlled. Hmmmmm. I understand the ick factor, but the same thing could happen anywhere outdoors. I'm sure the Festival did something to compensate, but things happen. We also have starlings that get a little aggressive sometimes as well as bats that swoop through on occasion. The Elizabethan Theatre is outdoors after all, but there are two indoor theatres too for those who are uncomfortable with flying creatures doing what they do. Fortunately, they do little harm.

OH my, I"M kind of speechless! Bird poo? :giggle: They must never leave their house!! It happened to me at the beach once, a SEAGULL! Rather large poo to say the least! I went to the water and washed it out of my hair. We all had a good laugh about it.
SMH

 

[AmyPond]

Autopsy results...drowning and traumatic injuries.

http://www.wesh.com/news/medical-ex...g-traumatic-injuries-in-gator-attack/40089102

 

[cvaldez1975]

idk about shutting it down. I think a good alternative would be to place larger signage with a pic of an alligator arning of their presence, placing uncomfortable rocks and pebbles along the water's edge to discourage wading and maybe putting a chainlink fence under the water a little way out in the water to discourage the gators from coming onto the beach.

Since it's man-made is it an option to shut down the lagoon?

 

[LaborDayRN]

Autopsy results...drowning and traumatic injuries.

http://www.wesh.com/news/medical-ex...g-traumatic-injuries-in-gator-attack/40089102

Sweet baby boy. I'm so sorry this happened to you. I can't even imagine what the family is going through.

 

[Wyle_E_Coyote]

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/busi...ator-attack-signs-warning-20160616-story.html

WDW plans to put up signs warning of alligators.

From the link :

Since then, numerous tourists have come forward with stories of alligator sightings at the resort. One employee said he had warned the Grand Floridian that the area should be fenced off.

Disney spokeswoman Jacquee Wahler issued a statement Thursday afternoon saying "we are conducting a swift and thorough review of all of our processes and protocols. This includes the number, placement and wording of our signage and warnings."

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[LaborDayRN]

From the link :

Since then, numerous tourists have come forward with stories of alligator sightings at the resort. One employee said he had warned the Grand Floridian that the area should be fenced off.

Disney spokeswoman Jacquee Wahler issued a statement Thursday afternoon saying "we are conducting a swift and thorough review of all of our processes and protocols. This includes the number, placement and wording of our signage and warnings."

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IMO they should add "graphics" as well.

 

[sonjay]

idk about shutting it down. I think a good alternative would be to place larger signage with a pic of an alligator arning of their presence, placing uncomfortable rocks and pebbles along the water's edge to discourage wading and maybe putting a chainlink fence under the water a little way out in the water to discourage the gators from coming onto the beach.

Sorry, but a chainlink fence under the water would do no good whatsoever.

 

[Betty P]

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/busi...ator-attack-signs-warning-20160616-story.html

WDW plans to put up signs warning of alligators.

When I look at video and photos of that beach area, I keep wondering what the purpose is of having it when there are alligators present. No one should be using it, it's too dangerous. Why not build a low wall and elevate the ground area? Allow people to walk along and look down at the water instead of sitting or standing near it.

 

[cvaldez1975]

oh bless his little heart. I love baby crying pix, I always giggle at ones of my LO.

http://www.klkntv.com/story/32224309/2-year-old-from-nebraska-missing-in-florida

 

[cvaldez1975]

I so hope he did try to pick it up

Gators have tremendous bite force, with respect to holding their mouths closed. They have almost no strength to open their mouths, though. Gator wrestlers can hold their mouths closed with one hand.

Possibly because I've lived in Florida all my life and have seen thousands of gators of all sizes, if it were a small enough gator, I would definitely grab the whole gator if I couldn't immediately get it to drop my dog. I would do anything to keep it from dragging my dog underwater, because then the gator wins. I can understand how someone from Nebraska wouldn't necessarily think of that in the heat of the moment, though.

 

[cvaldez1975]

they are home in NE already?

The family of Lane Graves will hold a special service at St. Patrick's Church in Elkhorn, Nebraska Thursday. A priest at the church will also pray a rosary specifically for the Graves family.

The Graves family asks for their privacy during this time.

http://www.wpsdlocal6.com/story/32234955/services-scheduled-for-lane-graves

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to add to that...

George A. Kalogridis, the president of Walt Disney World Resort, said in a statement, "There are no words to convey the profound sorrow we feel for the family and their unimaginable loss. We are devastated and heartbroken by this tragic accident and are doing what we can to help the family during this difficult time. On behalf of everyone at Disney, we offer our deepest sympathies."

Robert A. Iger, chairman and CEO of The Walt Disney Company, also said in a statement, "As a parent and a grandparent, my heart goes out to the Graves family during this time of devastating loss. My thoughts and prayers are with them, and I know everyone at Disney joins me in offering our deepest sympathies."

http://www.wkow.com/story/32236331/...after-alligator-attack-that-killed-2-year-old

 

[cvaldez1975]

im so sad about the traumatic injuries :*( I hope it was over quick and he didn't suffer.

why would his parents be charged????

Autopsy results...drowning and traumatic injuries.

http://www.wesh.com/news/medical-ex...g-traumatic-injuries-in-gator-attack/40089102

 

[cvaldez1975]

what about a barrier wall?

Sorry, but a chainlink fence under the water would do no good whatsoever.

 

[keyleigh]

Sorry, but a chainlink fence under the water would do no good whatsoever.

good lord. They're like a lizard/dinosaur hybrid. Our crocs can launch themselves out of water scarily high, but I'm pretty sure they don't climb fences. At least I hope they don't!