FL FL - Leila Cavett, 21, of GA (son Kamdyn, 2, found on street), Miramar, 27 July 2020 #3 *arrest*

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  • #861
Sorry anyone able to find out the change in time of the chloroform search I saw someone said it was 12.01 pm so was it 25th then ?
They for sure would be premeditated
I'm pretty sure it was 12:01am on the 26th. That's why I mentioned it was only about 10 minutes after her last activity but I guess I'll have to check to see if that's right. Either way it points to premeditation. Imo
 
  • #862
About if SR knew Leila from Alabama.... I will have to go back and look for the video I posted here days ago. It was from a tv station that spoke to her Uncle. He was in a car and was interviewed. It was hard to hear, but I thought he said that the timing SR claimed to have known her in Alabama didn't add up. If anyone else listened to that maybe they can tell what he said. It was not clear audio. Also, the pronunciation of her name is unclear. I have heard a lot of people, anchors and commentators say "Layla". I would think it is "Lee La" too. Has anyone heard her family say her name?

In this YouTube clip of Dr. Phil, her mom says, "Lee-la". So one could venture to say that if SR kept saying "lay-la" he probably never spent any other time with her than the short time she was in Hollywood before going missing. MOO

 
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In this YouTube clip of Dr. Phil, her mom says, "Lee-la". So one could venture to say that if SR kept saying "lay-la" he probably never spent any other time with her than the short time she was in Hollywood before going missing. MOO QUOTE]
Well of course we have to go with her mom's pronunciation of her name. I was inclined to think it was "Lee-La" since I knew a woman with that name and pronunciation.
 
  • #864
I wouldn't have thought Lee-La, but I remember SOMETHING telling us that Lee-La was correct. No idea, but early on. If it IS Lee-La and SR was pronouncing it Lay-La, that would indicate a very large part of his story (that he knew her in person before she came to Florida) was total BS. I wouldn't be surprised.
I thought the family pronounced it Leela, too. It was also indicated on her FB that it was pronounced that way. However, the FBI spokesman pronounced it Layla throughout the entire PC.

Either way, every detail from SR's story could have been taken from sources he found on line. He used whatever information he could find to portray her as a selfish, drug dealing, manipulative, thief and homeless person nobody cared about. He was just projecting his own faults onto her to shift the focus from himself to her so everyone would believe his story.

It makes me sick that his followers on SM believed him and defended him. All they did was give him the validation he needed and encouragement to keep going.

The only good thing about it is that he was dropping clues and throwing up red flags with every post. In the last few videos he made, it's obvious that he's agitated and beginning to unravel. He knew he was guilty and it was only a matter of time. IMO
 
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I thought the family pronounced it Leela, too. It was also indicated on her FB that it was pronounced that way. However, the FBI spokesman pronounced it Layla throughout the entire PC.

Either way, every detail from SR's story could have been taken from sources he found on line. He used whatever information he could find to portray her as a selfish, drug dealing, manipulative, thief and homeless person nobody cared about. He was just projecting his own faults onto her to shift the focus from himself to her so everyone would believe his story.

It makes me sick that his followers on SM believed him and defended him. All they did was give him the validation he needed and encouragement to keep going.

The only good thing about it is that he was dropping clues and throwing up red flags with every post. In the last few videos he made, it's obvious that he's agitated and beginning to unravel. He knew he was guilty and it was only a matter of time. IMO

BBM The victim blaming that commenced from his video was incredibly disgusting. Even IF the things he was saying were true, she wouldn't have deserved the vitriol that was flung her way. I'm so glad that most have seen this man's true face.
 
  • #866
BBM The victim blaming that commenced from his video was incredibly disgusting. Even IF the things he was saying were true, she wouldn't have deserved the vitriol that was flung her way. I'm so glad that most have seen this man's true face.
I agree. It bothered me from the beginning how he had such a low opinion of LC. Who talks about someone like that, especially when she's missing and her life could be in serious danger? Just a selfish creep. He was defensive and made himself look guilty.
 
  • #867
No. This hearing was about the kidnapping charges mostly. However, there was a self-proclaimed friend of Leila's posting on Facebook who alleged that she definitely never stayed with SR and his girlfriend in 2018 or 2019 and they would have known if she did. So unproven either way formally, but I feel like that story was just another of SR's lies to make himself look good and Leila look bad. One reason I strongly feel it was a lie is because SR consistently mispronounced Leila's name throughout that hour long diatribe video he made. He pronounced her name "Layla" not "Lee la." I think he barely knew her, really except via Facebook. Eventually we will find out what SR's girlfriend at that time has to say about that story.

There were empty bottles of rubbing alcohol in Leila's truck and a "with bleach" cleaner bottle half empty in his car. So he definitely had what was needed to make chloroform. Don't know if he did or didn't. FBI agent didn't say.

I agree with you that SR didn't seem to know LC very well, if at all - and that the whole Muscle Shoals story might have been a fabrication (or at least an exaggeration) on his part, as in the middle of one of the first sentences of his video he appears to be uncertain as to how to correctly pronounce her last name - so he quickly pronounces it two different (both) ways, with emphasis on a different syllable each time: Ca-VET and CAV - et

IMO, even if they did first meet in Muscle Shoals, SR couldn't have cared less about LC as a human being, and tricked her into coming down to FL. It appears that SR is the epitome of evil: a true sociopath. A liar, a user, and a murderer.

Edited to remove comments re: first name pronounciation after noting more recent posts (I'm typing too slow..)
 
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Looks like his next appearance is arraignment on 8/31/20 @11:00 a.m.

Docket for United States v. Ryan, 0:20-mj-06364 - CourtListener.com


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  • #869
I thought the family pronounced it Leela, too. It was also indicated on her FB that it was pronounced that way. However, the FBI spokesman pronounced it Layla throughout the entire PC.

Either way, every detail from SR's story could have been taken from sources he found on line. He used whatever information he could find to portray her as a selfish, drug dealing, manipulative, thief and homeless person nobody cared about. He was just projecting his own faults onto her to shift the focus from himself to her so everyone would believe his story.

It makes me sick that his followers on SM believed him and defended him. All they did was give him the validation he needed and encouragement to keep going.

The only good thing about it is that he was dropping clues and throwing up red flags with every post. In the last few videos he made, it's obvious that he's agitated and beginning to unravel. He knew he was guilty and it was only a matter of time. IMO
I went back about a year on his FB (that a was painful indeed; he posted 20, 30, 40 times a day sometimes) and it looked to me that he started to unravel in the spring of this year. I speculate TS kicked him out in Feb/Mar. Before then, his page was very similar to other mainstream spiritual/psychic/meditation/tarot sites. There really wasn't anything like the angry, aggressive, vengeful stuff it turned into over the last few months.

I really don't think he cared how Leila pronounced her name or if he pronounced it correctly. These victims he targets for scams are of no importance to him outside of what he could gain. They weren't people - they were marks for his scams. He could have known her for five years and still called her LAY-la.

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I agree. It bothered me from the beginning how he had such a low opinion of LC. Who talks about someone like that, especially when she's missing and her life could be in serious danger? Just a selfish creep. He was defensive and made himself look guilty.
IMO. that 51 minute tirade was designed to make HIM look like the victim who had been wronged by the actual victim. Narcissists do this routinely. It's called gaslighting and they are good at it.
 
  • #871
IMO. that 51 minute tirade was designed to make HIM look like the victim who had been wronged by the actual victim. Narcissists do this routinely. It's called gaslighting and they are good at it.
That makes sense to me. But if you follow FB (which I have been) you've probably seen how people bash LC, it's just horrible. He did manage to convince a large percentage of his following how she "deserved this". Some people are just absolute goats.... (by that I mean stupid) not meant to insult the goats really:)
 
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Did they include a timestamp in the picture of her getting out of the car? Was it at 3:00 pm when they reportedly went back to the gas station? The one with her in the dress was about 10:20 pm. After that the next activity is when SR left Walmart parking lot at 8:15 am, he allegedly went to drop off Kam and was back by 8:38 am. At about 9:40 he went to Walmart and bought the garbage bags, duct tape and carpet cleaner.

What stands out to me is that right after that there is a huge gap in SM activity between 11:20 am to 4:00 pm. Before and after that he seems to be posting continuously. This is the 26th, when he said he was there all day using the wifi except to go to the beach and to get weed.

So what was he doing during that time? Did he take the truck somewhere and clean it? Where was Leila? He tried hard to convince anybody listening that he was there all day going in and out of racetrac but I have a feeling he was busy doing other things.
“This is the 26th, when he said he was there all day using the wifi except to go to the beach and to get weed.” So what was he doing during that time?
Especially the “beach” trip.
 
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That makes sense to me. But if you follow FB (which I've have been) you've probably seen how people bash LC, it's just horrible. He did manage to convince a large percentage of his following how she "deserved this". Some people are just absolute goats.... (by that I mean stupid) not meant to insult goats though :)
Yes, I saw the victim bashing/shaming of Leila, too. People do that to distance themselves from the reality that any of them could be a victim as well. They would never do the actions the victim did which gives them erroneous comfort and self-protection that they could never end up like her. After all, none of this would have happened if Leila had just acted "right".

It'll all bullchit of course. Horrible things happen to all kinds of people at the hands of all kinds of predators running the streets. Victim blaming is nothing more than a primitive self-defense mechanism.
 
  • #876
I don't think I have seen this before:
While the Chevrolet truck was reported as Cavett’s, investigators said she did not own the pick up. In court, investigators said the truck has had several owners but the registration was not legally changed. Investigators are also unsure who owns the Lexus Ryan is seen driving.
Man charged with kidnapping in Leila Cavett case is ‘danger to community,’ judge says
Maybe because her license was suspended and she couldn't get insurance in her name?

I also saw the Lexus was not registered to SR. It also had expired tags. I wonder why the registered owner did not renew the tags?
 
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I think that is a likely scenario. There was definitely a huge struggle in that truck considering the bent visor and broken window. I think he attacked Leila while she was in the drivers seat at some point.

Does this mean Kam would have witnessed it? Trying to imagine my son when he was 2 witnessing this. He would have been able to say something or at least identify the person who hurt me. Which is just an awful thought--where was Kam during this?
 
  • #879
That’s the first I’ve seen about blood. :(
Agents said they found blood in both vehicles, along with a bloody shovel and an empty bottle of alcohol.

And I remember an article or something that mentioned the suspect googling how to make chloroform with alcohol and bleach.... so that empty bottle is significant. :( It sounds like LE are sure she is deceased., or that they conveyed this to her mom. There must have been a lot of blood for them to make that determination without a body? Are there other ways to know a subject is deceased without a body?

Leila's son keeps coming back to mind--what he knows, what he saw, and what he might have said. [where is the heartbreak emoji tonight??]
 
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