GUILTY FL - Lonzie Barton, 2, Jacksonville, 24 July 2015 - #6

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  • #421
Our dog was not feeling well last night...nothing too crazy that I could notice, but I just sensed something was off. I was so worried about her, so I stayed up all night trying to comfort her. All I could think of was Lonzie, and tears streamed my face thinking about the discomfort and pain he must have endured, and how lonely and scared he must have been. I would give anything to have been able to comfort him and get him to the ER. I'm literally sick to my stomach that the woman who completely failed him is out on bond. Some may say she is innocent until proven guilty, but in my eyes she is guilty beyond a shadow of doubt for 1) subjecting him to her degenerate lifestyle with her 🤬🤬🤬 of a bf 2) leaving him when he needed to get to an ER! We see these heartbreaking cases on a regular, but it will never get easy for me to accept. I am praying harder than ever that justice is served for this precious little angel.

Thank you just wasn't enough. Agree with everything you posted above. Maybe I'm taking this one so hard is because I have a little man in my life that is so close to Lonzie in age, looks, build. My little man has been taken to ER when he fell out of his high chair and a large bruise right smack in the middle of his forehead. (I didn't have the tray on properly) When he is ill, he lays down with Mother Goose vids and a cool rag to his face, back. I rub his feet with lotion and lots of kisses. Why, why didn't baby Lonzie have this? Why??? His mother is responsible, who leave their sick child?

I'll shut up now before I leave for ban camp.
 
  • #422
He might have been sick on that photo. I think the fluid from the ears is from an untreated ear infection. (I've gone through that myself.) I think he was sick *AND* was hit.

JMO.

From what i read on a medical site yellow fluid coming from the ear can be a middle ear infection or consistent with a ruptured ear drum. Fluid coming from the ears that is cerebrospinal fluid is usually clear and bloody. But i remember someone posting the fluid could of been clear and mixed with ear wax so could of had a yellow tinge to it, although i am not sure if that would be the case but could be possible? If Lonzie's ear in that photo where he has his bottle and looks to be sleeping is any indication, that ear that is visible in the pic. it doesn't look right at all to me, it looks deformed. Could be consistent with having that side of his head slammed into something, unless the photo is just weird, IMO.
 
  • #423
From what i read on a medical site yellow fluid coming from the ear can be a middle ear infection or consistent with a ruptured ear drum. Fluid coming from the ears that is cerebrospinal fluid is usually clear and bloody. But i remember someone posting the fluid could of been clear and mixed with ear wax so could of had a yellow tinge to it, although i am not sure if that would be the case but could be possible? If Lonzie's ear in that photo where he has his bottle and looks to be sleeping is any indication, that ear that is visible in the pic. it doesn't look right at all to me, it looks deformed. Could be consistent with having that side of his head slammed into something, unless the photo is just weird, IMO.

My working theory, until we have more facts to direct us, is that Lonzie was sick with ear infection (one or two ears) that Lonna didn't address. I've gone through this myself and had a ruptured ear drum. I'm thinking that Lonzie was sick, vomiting, lethargic, fussy....and all of that got on Ebron's nerves and Ebron lashed out at Lonzie.

I could be wrong, of course! But I think it's entirely possible that more than one problem was going on with Lonzie that his mother ignored. He was unsafe under Ebron's care, and he was also sick, that his mother neglected .

JMO for now.
 
  • #424
My working theory, until we have more facts to direct us, is that Lonzie was sick with ear infection (one or two ears) that Lonna didn't address. I've gone through this myself and had a ruptured ear drum. I'm thinking that Lonzie was sick, vomiting, lethargic, fussy....and all of that got on Ebron's nerves and Ebron lashed out at Lonzie.

I could be wrong, of course! But I think it's entirely possible that more than one problem was going on with Lonzie that his mother ignored. He was unsafe under Ebron's care, and he was also sick, that his mother neglected .

JMO for now.

I agree with your theory unless whatever happened to Lonzie happened when his mother was still at home that day before she took off to go to Wackos.
But i believe he was never in that car at those times LL & RE say he was and was already deceased by then.
And if that photo is accurate, then unless Lonzie was born with some type of deformity to his ears it is consistent with something else to have it look that way, and that would be some type of trauma and lots of swelling IMO.
 
  • #425
From what i read on a medical site yellow fluid coming from the ear can be a middle ear infection or consistent with a ruptured ear drum. Fluid coming from the ears that is cerebrospinal fluid is usually clear and bloody. But i remember someone posting the fluid could of been clear and mixed with ear wax so could of had a yellow tinge to it, although i am not sure if that would be the case but could be possible? If Lonzie's ear in that photo where he has his bottle and looks to be sleeping is any indication, that ear that is visible in the pic. it doesn't look right at all to me, it looks deformed. Could be consistent with having that side of his head slammed into something, unless the photo is just weird, IMO.
If a child has tubes in his ears, infection will cause drainage to flow freely from the middle ear. That's the reason for the tubes. Before my children had tubes, the first signs of an ear infection were fever and pain. After tubes, it was the foul drainage that would start pouring from their ears.

Little man could have possibly had tubes.
 
  • #426
You were able to enlarge it? It is a bruise? In your opinion?

I transferred it to a word document and enlarged it. Very grainy, but I could easily see the swelling of Lonzie's head and ear. I would love to see a clearer enlarged pic if there's anyone that can do it. It's been on msm so I think it's ok to do.

LL being quiet leads me to speculate that she's complicit in the hiding and cover up.
 
  • #427
IMO that child died from NEGLECT. HER neglect.
 
  • #428
It could be this:
due to

21. Picture of Cauliflower Ear
Cauliflower ear: An acquired deformity of the external ear to which wrestlers and boxers are particularly vulnerable, due to trauma. When a blood clot (hematoma) forms under the skin of the ear, the clot disrupts the connection of the skin to the ear cartilage. The cartilage has no other blood supply except from the overlying skin, so if the skin is separated from the cartilage, it is deprived of nutrients and dies. The ear cartilage then shrivels up to form the classic cauliflower ear, so named because the tissue resembles that lumpy vegetable's surface. Treatment involves draining the blood clot through an incision in the ear and then applying a compressive dressing, to sandwich the two sides of the skin against the cartilage.
http://www.medicinenet.com/image-collection/cauliflower_ear_illustration/picture.htm
 
  • #429
From what i read on a medical site yellow fluid coming from the ear can be a middle ear infection or consistent with a ruptured ear drum. Fluid coming from the ears that is cerebrospinal fluid is usually clear and bloody. But i remember someone posting the fluid could of been clear and mixed with ear wax so could of had a yellow tinge to it, although i am not sure if that would be the case but could be possible? If Lonzie's ear in that photo where he has his bottle and looks to be sleeping is any indication, that ear that is visible in the pic. it doesn't look right at all to me, it looks deformed. Could be consistent with having that side of his head slammed into something, unless the photo is just weird, IMO.

I've seen a few basilar skull fractures where the fld was clear or yellow coming from the ear(s). The yellowing can be from bilirubin in the breakdown of blood cells from bleeding into the csf (cerebrospinal fluid). This is what I believe happened. In order to get that type of swelling of the ear and head, I believe a major trauma occurred. JMO. (I am basing my opinion on signs and the photo, my experience, and I acknowledge that I am not an MD.).
 
  • #430
I transferred it to a word document and enlarged it. Very grainy, but I could easily see the swelling of Lonzie's head and ear. I would love to see a clearer enlarged pic if there's anyone that can do it. It's been on msm so I think it's ok to do.

LL being quiet leads me to speculate that she's complicit in the hiding and cover up.

Look at the other picture with Lonzie in cowboy boots. That same side of his head looks swollen compared to the other side. All his other pics from earlier in life show a baby with nicely formed face and ears. I don't think it's a birth deformity.

If he had an ear infection, and he was fussy and was hit with an open hand over the ear, that could rupture the ear drum and cause the bruise and drainage.

Sick B*******
 
  • #431
My working theory, until we have more facts to direct us, is that Lonzie was sick with ear infection (one or two ears) that Lonna didn't address. I've gone through this myself and had a ruptured ear drum. I'm thinking that Lonzie was sick, vomiting, lethargic, fussy....and all of that got on Ebron's nerves and Ebron lashed out at Lonzie.

I could be wrong, of course! But I think it's entirely possible that more than one problem was going on with Lonzie that his mother ignored. He was unsafe under Ebron's care, and he was also sick, that his mother neglected .

JMO for now.

Yes, that is what I am thinking as well.
 
  • #432
i dont think she has anywhere to go anyways. she might TRY to run but where? and who will help her? she doesnt "know anyone".

I hope LE are keeping a very close watch on her, because I wouldn't be 100% sure that she won't run. Let's hope they have some covert ops on her.
 
  • #433
there usually is conditions but the bail bondsman doesnt usually piss test you. they do usually make appts w you to make sure you have not run... dpeending on risks, it could be daily, could be weekly.

If she imbibes in drugs and/or alcohol while out on bond, she goes back to jail, right?
 
  • #434
also did you notice that two of the media pics are in the same shirt? the boot one and the sleeping, injured looking, bottle one. probably nothing.

I went to look at the photo and noticed something.

Baby was last seen wearing 'a diaper'.

So when Lonna last saw him, he was in the car at 8pm ish, it was raining and he was wearing only a diaper.

When I lived in Fl with my little guy, the humidity was torture, in the rain car windows were closed but ac was on because of the humidity. I never took him anywhere in just a diaper, but even if I had......8pm in the rain.....it seems so harsh.

I wanted to read his 'insert fave cartoon hero' pyjamas. It saddens me to read that he was just in a diaper.
 
  • #435
also did you notice that two of the media pics are in the same shirt? the boot one and the sleeping, injured looking, bottle one. probably nothing.

I believe they were from the same day: they were the pics WRE gave the police (from his phone). The lying down one was the first pic shown on the news when the alert went out.
 
  • #436
The only deformity I see was in the parenting skills.
 
  • #437
I've seen a few basilar skull fractures where the fld was clear or yellow coming from the ear(s). The yellowing can be from bilirubin in the breakdown of blood cells from bleeding into the csf (cerebrospinal fluid). This is what I believe happened. In order to get that type of swelling of the ear and head, I believe a major trauma occurred. JMO. (I am basing my opinion on signs and the photo, my experience, and I acknowledge that I am not an MD.).

Thanks for your opinion on that, and you have seen that happen first hand, so that all sounds like a good possibility in what happened to Lonzie. And i also agree a major trauma is what happened in this case.
 
  • #438
i agree.. my little man is a few months older (2 in april) and doesnt look like him (he is hispanic) but i do all and more for my baby. i cant imagine looking at his little face and then turning my back if he is sick or injured. what the hell?

Thank you just wasn't enough. Agree with everything you posted above. Maybe I'm taking this one so hard is because I have a little man in my life that is so close to Lonzie in age, looks, build. My little man has been taken to ER when he fell out of his high chair and a large bruise right smack in the middle of his forehead. (I didn't have the tray on properly) When he is ill, he lays down with Mother Goose vids and a cool rag to his face, back. I rub his feet with lotion and lots of kisses. Why, why didn't baby Lonzie have this? Why??? His mother is responsible, who leave their sick child?

I'll shut up now before I leave for ban camp.
 
  • #439
Look at the other picture with Lonzie in cowboy boots. That same side of his head looks swollen compared to the other side. All his other pics from earlier in life show a baby with nicely formed face and ears. I don't think it's a birth deformity.

If he had an ear infection, and he was fussy and was hit with an open hand over the ear, that could rupture the ear drum and cause the bruise and drainage.

Sick B*******

I'm having a hard time with that pic. His head is a little tilted, but I can't tell a whole lot. I need new eyes!
 
  • #440
I believe they were from the same day: they were the pics WRE gave the police (from his phone). The lying down one was the first pic shown on the news when the alert went out.

I think these.pics are.are . from the day he went missing . Look at that.baby's face!
Look at his eyes!
He looks tired and very ill.

IMO she lost her rights to her kids.

She needs.a.man more than she needs her children.
 
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