Found Deceased FL - Madeline Soto, 13, Missing Child Alert, 13500 blk Town Loop Blvd, Orlando, 26 Feb 2024 *arrest* #13

[Gemmie]

Someone should have noticed if they saw a car driving along on a flat tire for some distance; it might even have been throwing sparks! But I guess that's not something anyone would ever report to anybody. Unless they'd read about this case and paid attention to details about where she was found etc. But that would take a pretty big coincidence for us to ever hear about.

The fact he was seen changing his tire was good enough. All the pieces came together.

 

[ttjo]

He likely pushed it till he came across a copse of trees to hide her in. Just laying her on the side of the road really wasn't an option. It makes me wonder if he hadn't had that flat if she'd still be out there?

I posted a pic but it's been a while and Im not sure anymore which direction he was travelling. Those white tube looking things were all along that road until where she was found. He couldnt get past them wondered if that was a factor, but alligators do sound the most logical. I still wonder why he drove out near Disneys animal kingdom that morning.

 

[Inthedetails]

The fact he was seen changing his tire was good enough. All the pieces came together.

I never thought I'd love a tire, but I love that blown-out tire. Thanks for your service, old tube!

jmo

 

[Gemmie]

I posted a pic but it's been a while and Im not sure anymore which direction he was travelling. Those white tube looking things were all along that road until where she was found. He couldnt get past them wondered if that was a factor, but alligators do sound the most logical. I still wonder why he drove out near Disneys animal kingdom that morning.

White tube looking things? Can you expound on that a lil? lol

 

[ttjo]

White tube looking things? Can you expound on that a lil? lol

I'll post the picture, see the top right, but like I said which direction was he coming from? so They may not even factor in, there are arial shots of them on the day she was found and they went for miles it seemed. I think they were doing concrete pipes or something.

 

[ttjo]

here's a better view, that screenshot is from here

 

[ttjo]

dbm

 

[KentuckyMama]

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Maybr you’re right. I interpreted it as Maddie confiding to her friends that she was upset about not getting enough money for her birthday and JS also not gifting her money that year even though it was common for her to receive such as a gift.

Thank you for posting this. I hadn't seen it yet. However, I'm now irrationally and unfairly angry with this boy she had a crush on for not liking her and ignoring her texts. Yes, I know he's a kid. Just terrible. It is so awful, and rotten. This life she lived was too short and she was done so very wrong. I just hate that even this crush didn't bring any sweetness to her sad life. I wish we could just all surround her with love and protect her but the damage has already been done and we are too late.

 

[LetsSolvIt]

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here's a better view, that screenshot is from here

The white “tubing”: after cutting and baling hay, some farmers chose to wrap it in plastic. Sort of like shrink wrap. If the bales are lined up end to end, it does look like tubing. BTW: if they are placed near the field edge — along a road or farm lane — easier for farmer to access them later with a fork lift and move them to where they are needed to feed his animals.

 

[ttjo]

The white “tubing”: after cutting and baling hay, some farmers chose to wrap it in plastic. Sort of like shrink wrap. If the bales are lined up end to end, it does look like tubing. BTW: if they are placed near the field edge — along a road or farm lane — easier for farmer to access them later with a fork lift and move them to where they are needed to feed his animals.

Awe. Thanks for explaining, I didn't know what they were , I just assumed b/c I saw concrete tubes and equipment near there also.

 

[Inthedetails]

The white “tubing”: after cutting and baling hay, some farmers chose to wrap it in plastic. Sort of like shrink wrap. If the bales are lined up end to end, it does look like tubing. BTW: if they are placed near the field edge — along a road or farm lane — easier for farmer to access them later with a fork lift and move them to where they are needed to feed his animals.

Once again, I'm amazed at the variety of things I learn when following a case on WS. Thanks for sharing the info.

jmo

 

[LetsSolvIt]

I posted a pic but it's been a while and Im not sure anymore which direction he was travelling. Those white tube looking things were all along that road until where she was found. He couldnt get past them wondered if that was a factor, but alligators do sound the most logical. I still wonder why he drove out near Disneys animal kingdom that morning.

I can’t find my old post on this topic from last spring or a confirmation of his travel direction but my thought has always been that along that rural stretch of Hickory Tree, SS thought he might be able to reach Alligator Lake by turning West down a farm lane or some passage. If he tried, that could have been the cause of his shredded/flat tire. In a plan B/C he might have also considered dropping her in the canal between Alligator Lake and smaller lake to southeast. Either way the alligators would have been his accomplices in destroying evidence. I refer to this area as plans B/C, because I think plan A might have been to leave her somewhere near the church/school, as many of you have suggested.

28.19084° N, 81.20246° W = approximate area where body was found in St. Cloud and across road the sandy area where he changed tire (red circle around blue “body”). Source: my markings in Apple Map app screen shot.

 

[Pruddennce]

Someone should have noticed if they saw a car driving along on a flat tire for some distance; it might even have been throwing sparks! But I guess that's not something anyone would ever report to anybody. Unless they'd read about this case and paid attention to details about where she was found etc. But that would take a pretty big coincidence for us to ever hear about.

the interesting part of what witness TC saw that day driving by was the spare was already on the car, SS was holding a tire iron. he didnt stop to ask if help was needed because it seemed like the tire was changed as there wasnt a jack out or the removed tire.

so he must have driven a bit while it was going flat and then had to pull over when it went completely flat...where Madeline was found.

 

[Gemmie]

I can’t find my old post on this topic from last spring or a confirmation of his travel direction but my thought has always been that along that rural stretch of Hickory Tree, SS thought he might be able to reach Alligator Lake by turning West down a farm lane or some passage. If he tried, that could have been the cause of his shredded/flat tire. In a plan B/C he might have also considered dropping her in the canal between Alligator Lake and smaller lake to southeast. Either way the alligators would have been his accomplices in destroying evidence. I refer to this area as plans B/C, because I think plan A might have been to leave her somewhere near the church/school, as many of you have suggested.

28.19084° N, 81.20246° W = approximate area where body was found in St. Cloud and across road the sandy area where he changed tire (red circle around blue “body”). Source: my markings in Apple Map app screen shot.
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Here's your old post which shows more of the Northern part of the map which I like.

LINK TO OLD POST.

 

[LetsSolvIt]

Here's your old post which shows more of the Northern part of the map which I like.

LINK TO OLD POST.

Awesome, @Gemmie! Thank you!

I remembered that I captured a slightly different image last time but in today’s screen grab I wanted to show the canal and small lake (I prefer June image, too).

For some reason I feel like SS was driving South on Hickory Tree, like maybe I saw or read somewhere that his parked car when seen by witness was pointed South (wasn’t the doughnut on back passenger side wheel so someone driving by could only have seen it if car was pointed South), but if he was coming from Kissimmee, it seems to make more sense that he would be heading North on Old Hickory. It’s also possible when he pulled over he turned the car around before stopping. Maybe LE will have noted the tread path in sand.

Only my fuzzy recollections.

Thoughts?

 

[Pruddennce]

here is the witness who called on March 1 hours before Madeline was found, went back out because he didnt have enough enough to provide on the tipline, took pics and then met LE on March 1 while they were on that stretch. he explains how he saw SS, directional info, etc. linked at his interview:

 

[Megnut]

here is the witness who called on March 1 hours before Madeline was found, went back out because he didnt have enough enough to provide on the tipline, took pics and then met LE on March 1 while they were on that stretch. he explains how he saw SS, directional info, etc. linked at his interview:

What an outstanding civilian. Persistent, detailed -- he didn't even know her but IMO he did MS proud.

JM

 

[LetsSolvIt]

here is the witness who called on March 1 hours before Madeline was found, went back out because he didnt have enough enough to provide on the tipline, took pics and then met LE on March 1 while they were on that stretch. he explains how he saw SS, directional info, etc. linked at his interview:

@Pruddennce, this certainly answers my queries! Thank you!

 

[Pruddennce]

@Pruddennce, this certainly answers my queries! Thank you!

your welcome!

 

[Carrie Ann]

In 2009 it was not covered for me.

I know a couple of people that they covered it for them