Found Deceased FL - Madeline Soto, 13, Missing Child Alert, 13500 blk Town Loop Blvd, Orlando, 26 Feb 2024 *arrest* #3

[modesty blaise]

So far we have one inconsistent statement from JS unless I missed something. One inconsistent statement doesn’t automatically equate to guilt in my mind.

True but it's a BIG one given the circumstances and outcome no?

 

[Skigh]

So far we have one inconsistent statement from JS unless I missed something. One inconsistent statement doesn’t automatically equate to guilt in my mind.

All through this thread are comments about other inconsistencies observed by various posters.

 

[photoprose1122]

JS DID give LE conflicting statements. This is a doc from the Gray Hughes discussion video where an officer states JS gave sworn testimony that she saw MS at 8am. So it was not simply telling the reporter. View attachment 489484

Don’t remember seeing that particular report before.

 

[fsngruv]

JS DID give LE conflicting statements. This is a doc from the Gray Hughes discussion video where an officer states JS gave sworn testimony that she saw MS at 8am. So it was not simply telling the reporter. View attachment 489484

Thank you for providing that report!

Why she gave that statement? I don't know, I don't necessarily feel it means she is guilty of anything, maybe she was mistaken? Maybe it was just reported by the police officer but it was an inconsistent statement like many others in the report, like SS was her step father? Where on earth did the officer get that notion? I don't know that either.

 

[Skigh]

Thank you for providing that report!

Why she gave that statement? I don't know, I don't necessarily feel it means she is guilty of anything, maybe she was mistaken? Maybe it was just reported by the police officer but it was an inconsistent statement like many others in the report, like SS was her step father? Where on earth did the officer get that notion? I don't know that either.

I presume that officers would have heard SS being referred to as step father from either SS himself or JS. If it was SS it obviously was not corrected by JS.

 

[MassGuy]

JS DID give LE conflicting statements. This is a doc from the Gray Hughes discussion video where an officer states JS gave sworn testimony that she saw MS at 8am. So it was not simply telling the reporter. View attachment 489484

Thanks! I was confused when that former SA was talking about perjury charges, but this says it was a sworn statement. Explains that.

 

[fsngruv]

I presume that officers would have heard SS being referred to as step father from either SS himself of JS. If it was SS it obviously was not corrected by JS.

I totally get that, yet, I presume it was something the officer just presumed himself. She might've referred to him as her partner as she did in the interview? Don't know, but we can presume a lot of things.

 

[Forest_Wood]

Thank you for providing that report!

Why she gave that statement? I don't know, I don't necessarily feel it means she is guilty of anything, maybe she was mistaken? Maybe it was just reported by the police officer but it was an inconsistent statement like many others in the report, like SS was her step father? Where on earth did the officer get that notion? I don't know that either.

The report states that she gave SWORN written and verbal testimony at the time he took the statement. So it's not about the officer making a mistake. IMO.
As far as I know, sworn means, "Do you swear that what you are stating is the truth ..."
And if she wrote out her statement also, it would be right there in black and white.
MOO

 

[photoprose1122]

Thank you for providing that report!

Why she gave that statement? I don't know, I don't necessarily feel it means she is guilty of anything, maybe she was mistaken? Maybe it was just reported by the police officer but it was an inconsistent statement like many others in the report, like SS was her step father? Where on earth did the officer get that notion? I don't know that either.

He did refer to Maddie as his stepdaughter in his Reddit posts too.

 

[Ontario Mom]

Since you've brought this topic up again, curious what your thoughts are?

I'm torn. And as a mom & grandma, my heart hurts for any mom dealing with this kind of nightmare.

On the one hand, we all know women and mothers are more than capable of the most heinous kinds of crimes against their own kids. WS is sadly full of those cases.

On the other hand, in this case, it's been nearly 2 weeks of investigation & evidence gathering and not only are there no additional charges filed, we still don't even have COD or MOD for Madeline. Although that could have everything to do with the ME's office and/or waiting for tox to come back before announcing either. While LE almost immediately found the filth on SS's phone that he tried to hide, mums the word on anything found on mom's phone, MS's phone, laptop or any other device (pointing at mom's knowledge and/or involvement). Not to mention, LE has never called JS a suspect or even a POI, that I'm aware of. I'm not even sure if they're the ones saying her "story doesn't line up" or if that's coming directly from MSM. I haven't clicked every link but I don't think I've seen anyone from LE say this, it's just what the media is saying. Her saying she saw MS getting dressed at 8am can easily be explained away, and doesn't automatically mean she was straight up lying. Of course it also doesn't mean she wasn't, but to be fair, it can go either way.

So for me, it's far too soon to lean in on her being guilty of anything. If she's arrested tomorrow, then so be it. But for now, I'm on the fence, and consider her a victim. Time will tell if she deserves that compassion but until then, she's got it from me.

jmo

 

[BayouBelle_LA]

All through this thread are comments about other inconsistencies observed by various posters.

That was the only inconsistency that I have seen linked to MSM that hasn’t been explained or clarified. I’ve seen other inconsistencies mentioned by posters and most have been refuted with links to verified sources. imo

True but it's a BIG one given the circumstances and outcome no?

Sure it would be considered a big one and for me to get off the fence I’d need context and clarification. I trust that LE will cross their T’s and dot their I’s and get justice for Madeline.

 

[photoprose1122]

Thanks! I was confused when that former SA was talking about perjury charges, but this says it was a sworn statement. Explains that.

Have we seen that report before? I don’t watch the video interviews with the friends and just read the highlights y’all post - is this the only place that report has been seen? Cause I had looked through all the dockets I could find looking for where they had said she stated she’d seen her at 8am and it’s not on any of the ones I’ve seen. I was just curious as to where this report actually was or if it was one that was exclusively obtained by that particular outlet.

 

[Beekarina]

So, JS was divorced from this other guy in 2017. Do we have a sense if that is around the time she became involved with SS?

The labels used to describe the relationship SS has with JS and MS are very confusing--as confusing to me as their living situation. I've never heard SS described as JS husband, however, only by JS as her "partner".

 

[BeeGirl]

So, JS was divorced from this other guy in 2017. Do we have a sense if that is around the time she became involved with SS?

The labels used to describe the relationship SS has with JS and MS are very confusing--as confusing to me as their living situation. I've never heard SS described as JS husband, however, only by JS as her "partner".

I can’t remember where I saw it but I’ve seen that JS and SS were together off and on for 7 years so I’m thinking there was a quick turnaround.

 

[fsngruv]

The report states that she gave SWORN written and verbal testimony at the time he took the statement. So it's not about the officer making a mistake. IMO.
As far as I know, sworn means, "Do you swear that what you are stating is the truth ..."

I appreciate what you say, but in my experience sworn statements haven't always been reliable especially if made under duress. Not saying that's the case here, but I've had the experience many of time where officers have made false statements or made a mistake when they stated something in a report, my experience doesn't have to be anyone else's either? Don't recall even implying that. I'm not saying the report is false, but now that I see it, I don't think it is a false statement made by an officer. I'm just not convinced that her inconsistent statement means she's guilty or innocent. You did make a good point... "As far as we know", but we don't. I'm open to all conjecture and supposition, just as I make my statements of conjecture and supposition, so thank you for engaging!

Eta: Do we know if she was mirandized when she made those statements? I can't tell if it's in the report. Forgive me it is stated in the report she was mirandized, because that works also be interesting!

 

[fsngruv]

That was the only inconsistency that I have seen linked to MSM that hasn’t been explained or clarified. I’ve seen other inconsistencies mentioned by posters and most have been refuted with links to verified sources. imo

Sure it would be considered a big one and for me to get off the fence I’d need context and clarification. I trust that LE will cross their T’s and dot their I’s and get justice for Madeline.

What you said!! Beautifully stated.

 

[Cartie]

I see where they say they obtained reports but they're not provided? I choose to reserve my judgement for what the police say directly not what unnamed sources or unlinked reports say. Just me.
Also, I'm not convinced that she didn't make inconsistent statements, I would just like to see the official reports or hear official statements from the investigators. After all, she hasn't been charged with making these alleged inconsistent statements... Yet. Not to say she will or she won't. Omo.

Its in the warrant, you can't get any more official than that!

 

[Pruddennce]

if jenn told her mother that she called her BF to pick up maddie and take her to school b/c she was too tired, North port is a 2.5 hr drive from Kissimmee? ( I have only heard Jenn's mom say that Jenn called her BF to pick up maddi on that Telemundo interview) I dont think either JS or SS specified that. Seems like a lot to ask for him to come all that way. You think he was in North port that night after the party? maybe if not at Jenn's , at a hotel?

right. JS and SS interviews: no reference by either one of them that Madeline was PICKED UP by SS. only that he took her to school. she initially worded her interview as we did this and we did that leading to the belief they lived together.

however, JS: the arrest warrant narrative in it she states he picked HER UP FROM HOME. SS: he picked her up and dropped her off......

and his home address on the warrant is JS's.

IMO, Im confident LE has all these pieces some of us are anxious about. such as his movements the day/night before leading up to the early morning hours that was referenced in the press announcement AND time gaps, arriving or was there all nite, etc. and of course, JS, nite, morning, all day, before she went to pick her up.

 

[fsngruv]

I'm torn. And as a mom & grandma, my heart hurts for any mom dealing with this kind of nightmare.

On the one hand, we all know women and mothers are more than capable of the most heinous kinds of crimes against their own kids. WS is sadly full of those cases.

On the other hand, in this case, it's been nearly 2 weeks of investigation & evidence gathering and not only are there no additional charges filed, we still don't even have COD or MOD for Madeline. Although that could have everything to do with the ME's office and/or waiting for tox to come back before announcing either. While LE almost immediately found the filth on SS's phone that he tried to hide, mums the word on anything found on mom's phone, MS's phone, laptop or any other device (pointing at mom's knowledge and/or involvement). Not to mention, LE has never called JS a suspect or even a POI, that I'm aware of. I'm not even sure if they're the ones saying her "story doesn't line up" or if that's coming directly from MSM. I haven't clicked every link but I don't think I've seen anyone from LE say this, it's just what the media is saying. Her saying she saw MS getting dressed at 8am can easily be explained away, and doesn't automatically mean she was straight up lying. Of course it also doesn't mean she wasn't, but to be fair, it can go either way.

So for me, it's far too soon to lean in on her being guilty of anything. If she's arrested tomorrow, then so be it. But for now, I'm on the fence, and consider her a victim. Time will tell if she deserves that compassion but until then, she's got it from me.

jmo

I really couldn't agree with you more.

 

[Forest_Wood]

You did make a good point... "As far as we know", but we don't.

Well, do you know something different about what the word sworn means?
That's what I was referring to when I said as far as I know. Also, I don't know if that was the only time she stated she last saw Madeline at approximately 0800 hours. If she stated it during one of her interviews on MSM, that would have given her ample time to clarify what she swore to in writing. MOO.