Found Deceased FL - Madeline Soto, 13, Missing Child Alert, 13500 blk Town Loop Blvd, Orlando, 26 Feb 2024 *arrest* #3

[fsngruv]

Well, do you know something different about what the word sworn means?
That's what I was referring to when I said as far as I know. Also, I don't know if that was the only time she stated she last saw Madeline at approximately 0800 hours. If she stated it during one of her interviews on MSM, that would have given her ample time to clarify what she swore to in writing. MO

I edited my comment to add, do we know if she was mirandized when she made those statements? Wwre they otherwise freely made? Was it an admission made before she was mirandized or not? Do we know that?

 

[Eli9]

Have we seen that report before? I don’t watch the video interviews with the friends and just read the highlights y’all post - is this the only place that report has been seen? Cause I had looked through all the dockets I could find looking for where they had said she stated she’d seen her at 8am and it’s not on any of the ones I’ve seen. I was just curious as to where this report actually was or if it was one that was exclusively obtained by that particular outlet.

I do remember seeing that report but don't know if it was in thread one or this one. Do we have a media thread for Madeline? If so that's where I would check.

 

[Skigh]

I do remember seeing that report but don't know if it was in thread one or this one. Do we have a media thread for Madeline? If so that's where I would check.

Yes ,there is a media thread .

 

[Leilei]

I edited my comment to add, do we know if she was mirandized when she made those statements? Wwre they otherwise freely made? Was it an admission made before she was mirandized or not? Do we know that?

Since she wasn't in custody, I don't believe a Miranda warning was necessary. She wasn't being interrogated, she was making a sworn statement. IMO.

 

[MassGuy]

I edited my comment to add, do we know if she was mirandized when she made those statements? Wwre they otherwise freely made? Was it an admission made before she was mirandized or not? Do we know that?

It sounds like she signed a sworn legal document.

 

[Pruddennce]

I'm wondering why she wouldn't have planned the party for another day / time when she could have been there???

imo, there is a family dynamic going on. first clue to me was not being out with family and friends distributing flyers. it was almost as if she was avoiding being with them. afraid to answer questions one on one? no family member or friend stood by her as support outside the home or inside the home...and of course during these interviews.

only the creep was with her.

plus skipping a 13 year birthday party for her own daughter which had to be planned ahead, AND then never said anything about celebrating with Madeline herself on her actual birth date....all she said when asked about sunday and whether that was her actual birth date, she said that was the time WE were celebrating.... and says, birth date was thursday, the 22nd, her voice trails off, she just turned 13th....NOTHING else.

 

[fsngruv]

It sounds like she signed a sworn legal document.

Gotcha! Well if it is completely false, then it wouldn't necessarily be admissable in court, unless she has been questioned formally and read her Miranda rights. I mean, I'm pretty sure she has already, but we don't know the details of that yet and would really like to know more!

 

[Beekarina]

I'm still listening to the Gray Hughes discussion, but my take is this sworn statement was given when the officers first arrived to speak with JS and SS about MS being missing. It goes on to say the officer also spoke with the grandmother.

Edited to add a screenshot which includes more so you guys can read:

 

[MassGuy]

Gotcha! Well if it is completely false, then it wouldn't necessarily be admissable in court, unless she has been questioned formally and read her Miranda rights. I mean, I'm pretty sure she has already, but we don't know the details of that yet and would really like to know more!

The fact that it is a legal document means that Miranda isn't relevant, I don't believe. I think we've all signed documents that say "under the threat of perjury." She wasn't considered a suspect at the time, so they obviously wouldn't have mirandized her at that stage.

 

[Hestia's Fire]

imo, there is a family dynamic going on. first clue to me was not being out with family and friends distributing flyers. it was almost as if she was avoiding being with them. afraid to answer questions one on one? no family member or friend stood by her as support outside the home or inside the home...and of course during these interviews.

only the creep was with her.

plus skipping a 13 year birthday party for her own daughter which had to be planned ahead, AND then never said anything about celebrating with Madeline herself on her actual birth date....all she said when asked about sunday and whether that was her actual birth date, she said that was the time WE were celebrating.... and says, birth date was thursday, the 22nd, her voice trails off, she just turned 13th....NOTHING else.

Given what I know about predators in general, I wouldn't be surprised if SS had a lot to do with MS being divided from her family, if that is the case. Can't easily get away with disgusting criminal acts against a child if she has a loving and concerned extended family around to look out for her. Groomers often start out by grooming the parent(s) to ensure easy access to the child(ren), IMO, MOO, etc., etc.

 

[Rolypolyoly]

The thing that gives me pause over the whole 8am statement is that LE know that its out there, they must know the flack JS is getting, especially on unregulated social media.
If it wasn't true, and if she wasn't still being investigated as a suspect or POI, surely they would come right out and say so? If she is 100% a victim who is being persecuted and they know this, why haven't they put out a statement to say so?.

 

[Mimimom]

Given what I know about predators in general, I wouldn't be surprised if SS had a lot to do with MS being divided from her family, if that is the case. Can't easily get away with disgusting criminal acts against a child if she has a loving and concerned extended family around to look out for her. Groomers often start out by grooming the parent(s) to ensure easy access to the child(ren), IMO, MOO, etc., etc.

MOO. A child out of wedlock, a failed marriage, I'm not judging her but there's a good chance her family did and she felt like a failure. Along comes SS to take full advantage of her, grooming her and Madeline.

 

[photoprose1122]

I do remember seeing that report but don't know if it was in thread one or this one. Do we have a media thread for Madeline? If so that's where I would check.

I see it in the video now I just was confused because I thought it had shown it in a version of warrant that I had missed. But I see now it says incident report so it’s a different document. Just getting all the different affidavits confused!

 

[fsngruv]

The fact that it is a legal document means that Miranda isn't relevant, I don't believe. I think we've all signed documents that say "under the threat of perjury."

My understanding of admissions not made under Miranda might be found inadmissible, those would be orders made after the indictment by a defense attorney, so I seriously doubt officers would use one statement that could be considered just an admission that might be ruled inadmissible after the fact, and risk losing the whole false statement case, they're going to let them make a ton of admissions and be sure they're under Miranda. IMO. I'm sure they've done this and are building their case. I wish they would release something soon! I would hate to think they would allow this family to be dragged through the mud if they had more information. I think they do have information we don't know and they are building a good case. I just think the mishap early on is causing them to be a little more judicious on what they do release.

 

[photoprose1122]

The thing that gives me pause over the whole 8am statement is that LE know that its out there, they must know the flack JS is getting, especially on unregulated social media.
If it wasn't true, and if she wasn't still being investigated as a suspect or POI, surely they would come right out and say so? If she is 100% a victim who is being persecuted and they know this, why haven't they put out a statement to say so?.

That has bugged me too, that they haven’t said anything and actually at one point said “no comment,” when asked if there were any more suspects being investigated.

As others have said I’m guessing we’ll hear more this week.

 

[Beekarina]

I keep getting up and doing something else and taking breaks, because the general tone of these videos is not my cup of tea either.

The factual information is worth sticking with it, however.

As for the interviews with friends of SS? Yes, they have said a lot of things that made me cringe too. SS is a creep though. I would be more shocked if his friends were all totally appropriate in their comments.

 

[fsngruv]

That has bugged me too, that they haven’t said anything and actually at one point said “no comment,” when asked if there were any more suspects being investigated.

As others have said I’m guessing we’ll hear more this week.

I really hope we do hear something this week!!

 

[MassGuy]

That has bugged me too, that they haven’t said anything and actually at one point said “no comment,” when asked if there were any more suspects being investigated.

As others have said I’m guessing we’ll hear more this week.

Not only that, but when asked during a press conference if mom was a suspect, the sheriff said something to the effect of "not at this time." Whenever I've heard that we've eventually gone on to learn that person was in fact a suspect. It all made sense once we heard about the mom's account being a lie.

 

[Mimimom]

The thing that gives me pause over the whole 8am statement is that LE know that its out there, they must know the flack JS is getting, especially on unregulated social media.
If it wasn't true, and if she wasn't still being investigated as a suspect or POI, surely they would come right out and say so? If she is 100% a victim who is being persecuted and they know this, why haven't they put out a statement to say so?.

This situation is horrific, a little girl SA for years, in her home , now dead and discarded like trash. Moms inconsistencies , even if she doesn't know Anything, LE is looking at everything and probably Not sympathetic to her at this time . I'm not sure how I feel about Mom.

 

[fsngruv]

Not only that, but when asked during a press conference if mom was a suspect, the sheriff said something to the effect of "not at this time." Whenever I've heard that we've eventually gone on to learn that person was in fact a suspect. It all made sense once we heard about the mom's account being a lie.

Only one I can think of off the top of my head is Scottie Morris and that was not a murder. I would really have to dust out the cobwebs for something more similar, but I'm sure it's happened. Definitely doesn't look good.