Found Deceased FL - Madeline Soto, 13, Missing Child Alert, 13500 blk Town Loop Blvd, Orlando, 26 Feb 2024 *arrest* #5

[Beekarina]

I’m not saying as fact, but, devils advocate, could it be possible that JS has a condition that could cause fatigue? Maybe she was/is tired frequently… besides depression, maybe fibromyalgia or CFS or POTS? Has SS ever taken MS to school before? MOO, not fact, just throwing out some possibilities as no one can understand her being tired, but I get it. *yawn*

We don't know.

The thing that stands out though is it was mentioned--I believe in the grandmother's interview--that MS is *always* the one who took MS to school. JS also said when she said MS did not know her address, (paraphrasing) "She's always in the car with me."

So, I would think if JS did have something like CFS or POTS, MS probably would have been a bus student, or someone else would have regularly been taking her to and from school so JS could sleep in after working at night.

It's also not that long of a trip. I have had serious health problems, and it's pretty unusual as a mom to be so ill you cannot drive a few miles down the road. We tend to just do things like this even when we should rest, IME. It could happen, but the odds it happens on the same day your kid forgets her phone, goes missing and you either saw her last night at bedtime or at 8am that morning?

 

[AnyNameIWish]

That's what I have been wondering.

Don't we have grandma Yolanda saying (in Spanish) that MS was a very fearful girl and didn't like to be alone, to that effect?

Off to the Telemundo archives....

 

[Gemmie]

Don't we have grandma Yolanda saying (in Spanish) that MS was a very fearful girl and didn't like to be alone, to that effect?

Off to the Telemundo archives....

Here you go, @AnyNameIWish. And it turns out it's your own post. LOL I didn't realize that till I came back here to reply to you.

Found Deceased - FL - Madeline Soto, 13, Missing Child Alert, 13500 blk Town Loop Blvd, Orlando, 26 Feb 2024 *arrest* #5

Sadly, I don't think tomorrow's press conference will reveal much beyond "we're still investigating every angle".

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[Rosydecember]

We don't know.

The thing that stands out though is it was mentioned--I believe in the grandmother's interview--that MS is *always* the one who took MS to school. JS also said when she said MS did not know her address, (paraphrasing) "She's always in the car with me."

So, I would think if JS did have something like CFS or POTS, MS probably would have been a bus student, or someone else would have regularly been taking her to and from school so JS could sleep in after working at night.

It's also not that long of a trip. I have had serious health problems, and it's pretty unusual as a mom to be so ill you cannot drive a few miles down the road. We tend to just do things like this even when we should rest, IME. It could happen, but the odds it happens on the same day your kid forgets her phone, goes missing and you either saw her last night at bedtime or at 8am that morning?

Yeah…. When you’re trying to excuse and justify and there’s just too much of weird shenanigans

 

[BamaSleuth68]

I will continue to textually rant: a parent/guardian/friend, whoever is responsible for picking up a child from school, from anywhere, in this instance school letting out, the kid/car crowd thins out, your child doesnt come out, and JS's first reaction is to drive away???

she doesnt get out of her car, walk inside the school, maybe in the bathroom, maybe hung up at her locker, maybe just shooting the breeze. this is where Madeline was supposed to be, in school, nowhere else. and yet she drives away without checking there first.

huge red flag. IMO

Exactly. I would have given my kid a few minutes to come out and then I'm going in, or if they don't let people in, I'm pressing a buzzer, knocking on a door, ready at the front door to know where my kid is. She had a cell phone, call people from the school property. What if the child comes out as soon as you are out of sight? It just doesn't seem very smart to leave the last place she "should have been". JMOOC

 

[BamaSleuth68]

your memory is correct, it wasnt JS who said it, it was her mom (grandma) I will try to find it for you. It's in the Telemundo interviews. so far ive found " she told her bf to bring her, " told her BF to bring her here" and there is one that says "called her BF to take her" and maybe its just in the translation? , very early on I posted about it, because it had different translations and it was confusing. as well it was more about if grandma knew he lived there or not. didnt sound like she did because she said " the BF did not live there" which could be an indicator that they (JS/SS) were hiding it?

I can totally see that happening, lying about him staying/living there to her mom.

 

[CuriousCricket]

SS probably did start down the lane and punctured his tire so had to turn around and quickly get rid of the body — in the rush didn’t think about closing the gate. Then change the tire as I speculated before.

I agree. I think the gate was opened by SS, pre-flat. He drove in, tire blew.

Maddie was quickly hidden behind trees, and SS crossed the road to the pull off on the other side, leaving open a gate that is always closed.

You know, IF anyone had stopped to help him out, it would have been days before the Good Samaritan would have realized whom he had helped. At the time of the flat, there were no news reports about Maddie. SS would just have been a stranger who needed help.

 

[lightofmine99]

I hope they located Maddy's phone she supposedly "left at home."

 

[AnyNameIWish]

I hope they located Maddy's phone she supposedly "left at home."

Jenn soto says that she went thru Maddie's phone in one of the first interviews she gave, as I recall? At around 2:55 mom talks about having gone through Maddie's messages and that nothing "seemed weird" -- at this point SS is still sitting behind Jenn and Jenn keeps telling media she thinks Maddie was "taken", same narrative that Grandma Yolanda says. So... yeah, sounds like Authorities should have access to Maddie's phone.

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[lightofmine99]

Reminder that JS also claimed there were deketed texted she found where Maddy made comments about living in the woods when she turned 13. Of course we still don't know the context or if those are even real right now.

 

[AnyNameIWish]

@lightofmine99 - I never really got any clear documentation on where this "She said she wanted to live in the woods when she turned 13" was actually said by Maddie? I know tv originally reported it pretty immediately but we were never given how Maddie reportedly said it... any idea?


Edited to add: THANK YOU. From Mina's press conference on 2/28.

"We were able to access Madeline's phone and there is information on the phone that indicated that she told people when she turned 13, which was on February 22nd, she actually wanted to go live in the woods."

So there is no mention of if this was a text, private message, voice message, video message, or if it post-dates 7am on Monday (safe I think to assume she was deceased by then.)

 

[IzzyBlanche]

Reminder that JS also claimed there were deketed texted she found where Maddy made comments about living in the woods when she turned 13. Of course we still don't know the context or if those are even real right now.

IIRC that was Sheriff Mina who mentioned that, not JS.

 

[ttjo]

@lightofmine99 - I never really got any clear documentation on where this "She said she wanted to live in the woods when she turned 13" was actually said by Maddie? I know tv originally reported it pretty immediately but we were never given how Maddie reportedly said it... any idea?

Not sure where that came from, and by the sounds of this clip mom either never heard about it or never took it seriously enough to mention, when she was asked "is she the type to runaway"

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[IzzyBlanche]

Not sure where that came from, and by the sounds of this clip mom either never heard about it or never took it seriously enough to mention, when she was asked "is she the type to runaway"

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It came from the first PC given by Sheriff Mina. Promise.

 

[MassGuy]

It came from the first PC given by Sheriff Mina. Promise.

Yes, and it was vague, saying that she had sent texts or made social media posts that indicated she wanted to live in the woods when she turned 13. I would assume they found something on her phone that told them that, and the sheriff didn't know the specifics, or didn't want to offer them up if he did.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

Not sure where that came from, and by the sounds of this clip mom either never heard about it or never took it seriously enough to mention, when she was asked "is she the type to runaway"

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Just looking at the headline, JS has never seemed to be a "wreck" to me.

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Yeah, I know everyone handles adversity differently.

 

[ttjo]

Yes, and it was vague, saying that she had sent texts or made social media posts that indicated she wanted to live in the woods when she turned 13. I would assume they found something on her phone that told them that, and the sheriff didn't know the specifics, or didn't want to offer them up if he did.

I was kind of being sarcastic, I have no doubt there were texts/posts that said that, just not 100% sure who wrote them.

 

[ttjo]

It came from the first PC given by Sheriff Mina. Promise.

I believe you 100%

 

[MassGuy]

I was kind of being sarcastic, I have no doubt there were texts/posts that said that, just not 100% sure who wrote them.

I'm just sayin, we don't know the context, which would perhaps give the answer as to who wrote them.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

I was kind of being sarcastic, I have no doubt there were texts/posts that said that, just not 100% sure who wrote them.

Gotcha.