Found Deceased FL - Madeline Soto, 13, Missing Child Alert, 13500 blk Town Loop Blvd, Orlando, 26 Feb 2024 *arrest* #6

[I am not Sherlock H.]

You almost have to dissect what wasn’t said by JS before you start with the rest.

Exactly! I was just contemplating that trying to read the tea leaves from JS statements could be fraught with difficulties. In other words, possibly building a castle on sand. And it proves almost futile or even impossible to assess any actual occurrences or events IMO? No wonder LE authorities there are taking their time. MOO

 

[Mimimom]

The public defender who spoke on behalf of SS today.... was admitted to the bar in September 2022.... I'm surprised Mommy and Daddy didn't hire a high profile lawyer for their delusional son.

I wouldn't...NOT for these crimes. I don't think I could look at my son.

 

[Universecalling]

Either that or Maddie was driven home by these other people and SS did not attend the party, but was at the house with JS when Maddie came home from the party.
I’m not sure who JSwas referring to when she said Maddie “showed them” her gifts.

Double post

 

[leighaking98]

Do we know if that scenario would still fall under premeditation and 1st degree charge?

I don't think it would fall under first-degree murder. I don't think it was a covered-up suicide but I do think the defence could argue that it was in court. If they bring her mental health into question and there is evidence of self harm. A lawyer would use this to put doubt in the jury's mind. By the way, this is just one of my theories because a lot of evidence does point to murder.

 

[ttjo]

I don't think it would fall under first-degree murder. I don't think it was a covered-up suicide but I do think the defence could argue that it was in court. If they bring her mental health into question and there is evidence of self harm. A lawyer would use this to put doubt in the jury's mind. By the way, this is just one of my theories because a lot of evidence does point to murder.

Trouble is they would have had to show probable cause for a murder 1 charge, if it was iffy they wouldnt overcharge.

 

[photoprose1122]

Do we know if that scenario would still fall under premeditation and 1st degree charge?

There’s no way it’s suicide with a first degree murder charge with premeditation. Even if he pushed her to kill herself, that wouldn’t warrant first degree with premeditation.

 

[Universecalling]

There’s no way it’s suicide with a first degree murder charge with premeditation. Even if he pushed her to kill herself, that wouldn’t warrant first degree with premeditation.

I’m in full agreement that it wasn’t suicide.
Was asking that question in case there was some odd law where that could fall under those charges.
I should have framed that question better.

 

[ttjo]

I’m in full agreement that it wasn’t suicide.
Was asking that question in case there was some odd law where that could fall under those charges.
I should have framed that question better.

been there...lol but I hear you, you're just lookin for loopholes.

 

[Megnut]

Investigative reporter told Court TV sources say she was killed right after birthday party (Sunday night).

This might explain their certainty that she was deceased in the vehicle. Rigor.

 

[Boxer]

Usually foster homes seem pretty dismal.
For her anything, even standard foster would have been paradise.

 

[modesty blaise]

Usually foster homes seem pretty dismal.
For her anything, even standard foster would have been paradise.

A pack of wolves would have gotten her to adulthood.

 

[AnyNameIWish]

I wouldn't...NOT for these crimes. I don't think I could look at my son.

Oh, absolutely. In the context of the Sterns tho, knowing the past history of his alleged behavior, and behaviour of his parents- I'm surprised they didn't double down on his "innocence" (again?) this time. Glad he'll have representation but not someone flashy who just wants the fame.

I noticed "ORIGINAL APPLICATION FOR INDIGENT STATUS PUBLIC DEFENDER APPOINTED"... was filed.

"Indigent".... only insofar as SS refused to actually get a job but somehow had money for a car, gas, tamagochi and Warhammer "toys".... was JS paying his other expenses? (Utilities, housing, etc?)

 

[Beekarina]

Oh, absolutely. In the context of the Sterns tho, knowing the past history of his alleged behavior, and behaviour of his parents- I'm surprised they didn't double down on his "innocence" (again?) this time. Glad he'll have representation but not someone flashy who just wants the fame.

I noticed "ORIGINAL APPLICATION FOR INDIGENT STATUS PUBLIC DEFENDER APPOINTED"... was filed.

"Indigent".... only insofar as SS refused to actually get a job but somehow had money for a car, gas, tamagochi and Warhammer "toys".... was JS paying his other expenses? (Utilities, housing, etc?)

Maybe his parents are worried about being sued themselves?

Remember those friends of SS calling in to Grey Hughes and saying SS parents paid off roommates in the past to keep quiet about SS having horrible stuff with underage on computers? We discussed it here how it was wrong for any adult who knew this about SS not to warn anyone with kids about it.

 

[photoprose1122]

I’m in full agreement that it wasn’t suicide.
Was asking that question in case there was some odd law where that could fall under those charges.
I should have framed that question better.

Sorry I was more responding to the idea in general, not trying to bash on your opinions/ideas at all.

 

[Beekarina]

This might explain their certainty that she was deceased in the vehicle. Rigor.

It was so disgusting too, in hindsight how SS pointed out MS " was asleep" most of the way to "school."

Demonstrated planning and trying to coverup to me.

She clearly was NOT "asleep."

 

[Warwick7]

Maybe his parents are worried about being sued themselves?

Remember those friends of SS calling in to Grey Hughes and saying SS parents paid off roommates in the past to keep quiet about SS having horrible stuff with underage on computers? We discussed it here how it was wrong for any adult who knew this about SS not to warn anyone with kids about it.

That makes me sick...

 

[ttjo]

That makes me sick...

Right? This is when I wish his girlfriend was Lorena Bobbit. Where's she at when you need her?

 

[Gemmie]

Right? This is when I wish his girlfriend was Lorena Bobbit. Where's she at when you need her?

I just love Lorena's last name. It's so.... uh, appropriate for her.

 

[Universecalling]

Sorry I was more responding to the idea in general, not trying to bash on your opinions/ideas at all.

I would never think you would bash anyone.
Well… except SS. We welcome that

 

[ttjo]

I just love Lorena's last name. It's so.... uh, appropriate for her.

She would have had this handled 2 months ago... lol ( inside voice, I'm sure it will get deleted but I had to say it).