FL - Mark Schwab facing execution for the '91 murder of Junny Rios-Martinez

[panthera]

I've been looking around and I can't find a time of execution. Usually they will say at 12:01AM or something like that. Does anybody know what time on July 1 this is suppose to happen?

I think Florida has them around 6pm.

 

[panthera]

I just checked and here's the latest article ~

Schwab execution set for Tuesday


TALLAHASSEE — Florida is set to resume executions in less than 24 hours after an 18-month moratorium for lethal injection to be scrutinized by the courts.

Mark Dean Schwab is scheduled to be put to death at 6 p.m. at Florida State Prison in Starke. Schwab was convicted of raping and murdering 11-year-old Junny Rios-Martinez of Cocoa. The execution will take place exactly 16 years to the day that Schwab was sentenced to death.

more at: http://www.palmbeachpost.com/state/content/state/epaper/2008/06/30/0630schwab.html

 

[michelle]

So this will be at 6pm? I hope it brings the Victims Family some peace.

 

[truecrimefan]

If your child grew up to kill someone, would you stop loving them and want to see them die a painful death with someone smiling and eating popcorn in the front row? I hope for your child's sake, there isn't anything they could do to stop your love for them. The people who want to save them from the DP are the people who have always loved them for who ELSE they always were, and always will be.

I hate this guy as much as you do. I don't see why we had to spend a blue million dollars on him, when he could have been given a life sentence without parole and saved us a bunch of money.... and saved his mother from having HER son murdered as well.

If it's all about the money, he should have life without parole. If it's all about revenge, then I can't understand.

:clap:

IMO, you don't stop loving your children, period. You love your children unconditionally. I've only posted here a few times, but I do read quite a few of the threads, and it amazes me how some people here seem just as bloodthirsty as the criminals that they talk about, when they wish for long painful deaths for them. IMO, that solves nothing.

 

[panthera]

So this will be at 6pm? I hope it brings the Victims Family some peace.

Yes, that's when it's scheduled for. I don't think Gov. Crist will stop it either.

I'm praying there will be some closure and peace for Junny's family. :rose:

 

[michelle]

Yes, that's when it's scheduled for. I don't think Gov. Crist will stop it either.

I'm praying there will be some closure and peace for Junny's family. :rose:

Yes, I am praying that for them too. It is truly every parents nightmare they are living in.

 

[Jeana (DP)]

If your child grew up to kill someone, would you stop loving them and want to see them die a painful death with someone smiling and eating popcorn in the front row? I hope for your child's sake, there isn't anything they could do to stop your love for them. The people who want to save them from the DP are the people who have always loved them for who ELSE they always were, and always will be.

I hate this guy as much as you do. I don't see why we had to spend a blue million dollars on him, when he could have been given a life sentence without parole and saved us a bunch of money.... and saved his mother from having HER son murdered as well.

If it's all about the money, he should have life without parole. If it's all about revenge, then I can't understand.

You and I have had many discussions about the death penalty since you've been here. I won't be weeping for this guy, but I won't be cheering either. I think its sad. Its sad for his victims, including his own family and friends. Its sad for the prison staff who have to go through this execution. Its sad for mankind. However, as sad as it is, it would be even sadder to keep this alive for one day longer.

Sorry, but that's the way I feel about it. I don't care if they fry him. I don't care if the shoot him. I don't care if they inject him. Dead is dead. Any way he's got to get there is fine. Revenge is only a word. Just like justice. Its only a word. Action is what counts.

 

[michelle]

You and I have had many discussions about the death penalty since you've been here. I won't be weeping for this guy, but I won't be cheering either. I think its sad. Its sad for his victims, including his own family and friends. Its sad for the prison staff who have to go through this execution. Its sad for mankind. However, as sad as it is, it would be even sadder to keep this alive for one day longer.

Sorry, but that's the way I feel about it. I don't care if they electrocute him. I don't care if the shoot him. I don't care if they inject him. Dead is dead. Any way he's got to get there is fine. Revenge is only a word. Just like justice. Its only a word. Action is what counts.

:clap: Great post Jeana!

 

[panthera]

Yes, I am praying that for them too. It is truly every parents nightmare they are living in.

I completely agree that these past 17 yrs. must have been a nightmare for them, to lose their precious little girl in such a horrible way. She never had a chance to grow up or have a family of her own.

 

[XcomSquaddie]

I was going to make a comment about an online execution party. But then I thought about it.

Is it right to take joy in the death of another human being? Is ALL life sacred? Do we, as a society, have the right to take someone's life?

1. This man committed an appalling crime.

2. The crime occurred while he was being shown mercy after committing a previous appalling crime.

3. The victim of the crime was a young child.

4. The victim of his previous crime(s) was a child.

5. The relatives of the victim do not wish to show mercy.

6. The man was legally convicted and sentenced according to the laws of the land.

7. All legal appeals have been considered and turned down.

8. There is no doubt as to his guilt.

9. He has shown by his past actions that there is no hope of rehabilitation.

10. He has shown no remorse.



Do we, as a society, have the right to take someone's life?
According to our justice system and the laws of the land, Yes.

Is ALL life sacred?
No. Not creatures like this man, who rape and kill and torture, repeatedly.

Is it right to take joy in the death of another human being?
I cannot answer that. But I know that I will take great pleasure in the fact that after 6pm on July 1st, he will never be able to hurt anyone again.

 

[Truly]

:clap:

IMO, you don't stop loving your children, period. You love your children unconditionally. I've only posted here a few times, but I do read quite a few of the threads, and it amazes me how some people here seem just as bloodthirsty as the criminals that they talk about, when they wish for long painful deaths for them. IMO, that solves nothing.

I was brutally gang-raped when I was a child. If I could have killed every one of them at the time, I would have. They hurt me so bad inside, physically, that I have never been able to have a child of my own. Inside, emotionally, is a whole other level of pain way beyond that. I would tell every person who is assaulted to fight back with all of their might, and kill if necessary to defend themselves.

I have never killed anything. I treasure life that much. If I find a little bug caught in my house, I take it outside and let it fly away. I am absolutely sickened by the premeditated aspect of this execution. I am ill knowing that I am going to be partially responsible for the taking of a life. I have never gotten involved in death penalty debates, as I really felt torn about how I felt about it.

But the bloodthirst is really exactly the same as a murderers. The nonchalant chatting about time as if this was some game about to begin, complete with popcorn, have sickened me beyond anything I have ever experienced.

I'm going outside to breathe. I don't know if I'll be back.

 

[southcitymom]

I was brutally gang-raped when I was a child. If I could have killed every one of them at the time, I would have. They hurt me so bad inside, physically, that I have never been able to have a child of my own. Inside, emotionally, is a whole other level of pain way beyond that. I would tell every person who is assaulted to fight back with all of their might, and kill if necessary to defend themselves.

I have never killed anything. I treasure life that much. If I find a little bug caught in my house, I take it outside and let it fly away. I am absolutely sickened by the premeditated aspect of this execution. I am ill knowing that I am going to be partially responsible for the taking of a life. I have never gotten involved in death penalty debates, as I really felt torn about how I felt about it.

But the bloodthirst is really exactly the same as a murderers. The nonchalant chatting about time as if this was some game about to begin, complete with popcorn, have sickened me beyond anything I have ever experienced.

I'm going outside to breathe. I don't know if I'll be back.

I am so sorry about what happened to you, Truly. :blowkiss: There aren't words to tell you how much. Thank you for having the courage to share your views on this.

I too am befuddled at the joy some people claim to feel in the anticipation of taking a human life. I guess it is like you describe - bloodthirst. We sure do have a lot of it.

 

[truecrimefan]

I was brutally gang-raped when I was a child. If I could have killed every one of them at the time, I would have. They hurt me so bad inside, physically, that I have never been able to have a child of my own. Inside, emotionally, is a whole other level of pain way beyond that. I would tell every person who is assaulted to fight back with all of their might, and kill if necessary to defend themselves.

I have never killed anything. I treasure life that much. If I find a little bug caught in my house, I take it outside and let it fly away. I am absolutely sickened by the premeditated aspect of this execution. I am ill knowing that I am going to be partially responsible for the taking of a life. I have never gotten involved in death penalty debates, as I really felt torn about how I felt about it.

But the bloodthirst is really exactly the same as a murderers. The nonchalant chatting about time as if this was some game about to begin, complete with popcorn, have sickened me beyond anything I have ever experienced.

I'm going outside to breathe. I don't know if I'll be back.

I am so very sorry that this happened to you, Truly.

I think that ALL life is precious and any time it is lost, it is a tragedy. What's worse is to make a mockery of the loss of life by wanting to eat popcorn, wave, smile, etc while someone dies. There's no joy in a loss of life, no matter the circumstances. It's not something to be looked forward to or celebrated. :twocents:

 

[Jeana (DP)]

I'm sorry too Truly. Not all victims agree with you though. The death penalty has its place.

 

[XcomSquaddie]

I was brutally gang-raped when I was a child.

I don't know what I can say that wouldn't sound hollow or trite. I cannot comprehend what you have been through and I won't pretend to. I can say that I am sorry for what you have been through.

I am ill knowing that I am going to be partially responsible for the taking of a life.

I do not see how you could be responsible in any way for this event. You did not seek to be a crime victim.

But the bloodthirst is really exactly the same as a murderers. The nonchalant chatting about time as if this was some game about to begin, complete with popcorn, have sickened me beyond anything I have ever experienced.

I have to disagree. For myself anyway, I take pleasure in the fact that he will not be able to hurt any more kids.

I do feel that there are humans that, through their actions, have lost any right to be treated humanely. This man falls into that category.

I do feel that too many times, vile individuals escape justice and are returned to society where they inflict more pain on innocents. This man falls into that category.

People see criminals being given plea bargins, wrist-slap sentences, probation and house arrest. People hear of prisoners spending decades on death row, effectively avoiding punishment.

I'm going outside to breathe. I don't know if I'll be back.

I do not see my views or beliefs changing anytime soon. However I am sorry if my opinions have caused you pain and I hope that you do not leave this community.

 

[mysteriew]

If your child grew up to kill someone, would you stop loving them and want to see them die a painful death with someone smiling and eating popcorn in the front row? I hope for your child's sake, there isn't anything they could do to stop your love for them. The people who want to save them from the DP are the people who have always loved them for who ELSE they always were, and always will be.

I hate this guy as much as you do. I don't see why we had to spend a blue million dollars on him, when he could have been given a life sentence without parole and saved us a bunch of money.... and saved his mother from having HER son murdered as well.

If it's all about the money, he should have life without parole. If it's all about revenge, then I can't understand.

Actually I feel for the family, I really do. They only chose to love their son, they didn't choose to rape and murder a child. This will hurt them to know that he is going to lose his life, to know that he is going to be put to death.

However, I don't blame the prosecutor's, LE, the jury, the state, the government, the Supreme Court or anyone else for his DP sentence.

This family's child made a choice. He chose to rape and murder a child, he chose to commit a DP offense. He chose to commit an act that if he was caught, would hurt his family. I don't blame the state and I don't blame his family. It is pretty obvious that I blame him for his own family's pain as well as the pain of the child's family.

 

[trixie]

I just checked and here's the latest article ~

Schwab execution set for Tuesday


TALLAHASSEE — Florida is set to resume executions in less than 24 hours after an 18-month moratorium for lethal injection to be scrutinized by the courts.

Mark Dean Schwab is scheduled to be put to death at 6 p.m. at Florida State Prison in Starke. Schwab was convicted of raping and murdering 11-year-old Junny Rios-Martinez of Cocoa. The execution will take place exactly 16 years to the day that Schwab was sentenced to death.

more at: http://www.palmbeachpost.com/state/content/state/epaper/2008/06/30/0630schwab.html

Thank you Panthera for this information. I couldn't find it anywhere.

 

[trixie]

I was brutally gang-raped when I was a child. If I could have killed every one of them at the time, I would have. They hurt me so bad inside, physically, that I have never been able to have a child of my own. Inside, emotionally, is a whole other level of pain way beyond that. I would tell every person who is assaulted to fight back with all of their might, and kill if necessary to defend themselves.

I have never killed anything. I treasure life that much. If I find a little bug caught in my house, I take it outside and let it fly away. I am absolutely sickened by the premeditated aspect of this execution. I am ill knowing that I am going to be partially responsible for the taking of a life. I have never gotten involved in death penalty debates, as I really felt torn about how I felt about it.

But the bloodthirst is really exactly the same as a murderers. The nonchalant chatting about time as if this was some game about to begin, complete with popcorn, have sickened me beyond anything I have ever experienced.
I'm going outside to breathe. I don't know if I'll be back.

I think I was the first to ask about the time. I'm sorry about what happened to you but I didn't do it and neither did anyone else here so please don't lash out at me or others. Please don't assume you know WHY I wanted to know the time. I said nothing about any popcorn or anything else of that nature. In fact i have never stated what my views on the death penalty are on this forum or anywhere else so don't throw me into the crowd while you stand outside of it and make judgements. It sounds as if you need some counseling. Maybe a CRIME WEBSITE isn't the best place for you to be reading given the horrific thing that happened to you. I'm sorry about it, I really am but don't assume you know how I feel about any given subject unless i say so, just because I asked a question about time.
BTW I truly believe in flyswatters.
I'm not an extremist.

 

[Talisman]

I'm not bloodthirsty. I'm not cheering. I'm not making popcorn and pulling up a comfy chair to wait for this.

I am human female that has been on this earth for 45 (almost46!) years. While I am not 'gleeful' about the execution I will not have any regrets the day after.

Websleuths alone has page after page of threads about brutal murders. Stories about Sexual predators that have been released only to repeat crimes. These stories will not end tonight. There will be more to add tomorrow.

What I'm trying to say is that I don't even care that the death penalty isn't a proven deterrent. Rehabilitation isn't either, otherwise repeat offenders wouldn't exist. Executions shouldn't be so few and far between.

Sorry, but, sometimes I tire of all the weepy warm fuzzy feeling towards child rapists, murderers, and 'beasts' that prey upon children!

I won't be outside with the cheering crowd, but I sure won't miss his presence here on earth.

 

[Kiki]

I was brutally gang-raped when I was a child. If I could have killed every one of them at the time, I would have. They hurt me so bad inside, physically, that I have never been able to have a child of my own. Inside, emotionally, is a whole other level of pain way beyond that. I would tell every person who is assaulted to fight back with all of their might, and kill if necessary to defend themselves.

I have never killed anything. I treasure life that much. If I find a little bug caught in my house, I take it outside and let it fly away. I am absolutely sickened by the premeditated aspect of this execution. I am ill knowing that I am going to be partially responsible for the taking of a life. I have never gotten involved in death penalty debates, as I really felt torn about how I felt about it.

But the bloodthirst is really exactly the same as a murderers. The nonchalant chatting about time as if this was some game about to begin, complete with popcorn, have sickened me beyond anything I have ever experienced.

I'm going outside to breathe. I don't know if I'll be back.

Truly, I think you are very brave to have shared that and to have the amazing attitude to life that you do. :blowkiss: :clap: I think you are an incredible soul. I only wish there was something I could do to lessen your pain but I know there is nothing. ((())) I was glad to hear of someone else who values the lives of little creatures as well. When I am bitten by a mosquito I just try and blow them off my arm while my family watches and rolls their eyes.

You have given me the courage to admit my own experience. When I was 8 I was molested by a 14 year old neighbourhood boy. I wanted him dead for many years. I wanted something slow and painful. Twenty years later my feelings have changed. I don't know what happened to him, nor do I care, but I am so grateful he was not killed on my account. Dealing with what happened was hard enough let alone adding someone's death into the emotional mindfield. I admit what happened to me because feelings can change, even many years later, and the death penalty allows no room for that. This is just me expressing my opinion as others have expressed theirs.

Trixie, I don't think Truly was attacking you specifically but responding to some earlier posts and someone did make a comment about watching the execution while eating popcorn. If people are going to admit something horrific that happened to them I don't believe they should be asked to think twice about posting on a crime message board. Truly has just as much right to post as you do. Isn't the perspective of someone like Truly who has been a victim of a horrible crime especially valuable?

Truly I hope you decide to stay but I understand if this is too much for you. :blowkiss: I wish you all the happiness in the world. You deserve it.