FL - Markeis McGlockton shot and killed in front of family, Clearwater, July 2018

[Jackeee]

So....if someone pis..s you off, you can blow ‘em away?

 

[Audrey Horne]

This makes me want to vomit. It's people like the murderer who benefit the most from these asinine laws. It's obvious it would be different were it the other way round.

 

[glamourkitty1922]

Girlfriend Of 'Stand Your Ground' Shooting Victim Says Gunman 'Was Picking A Fight' | HuffPost

Britany Jacobs witnessed Michael Drejka, 47, gun down her boyfriend Markeis McGlockton, a 28-year-old father of three, in a convenience store parking lot in Clearwater on Thursday. Police, citing Florida’s “stand your ground” gun law that allows gun owners to use deadly force if they feel threatened, filed no charges.

The confrontation began when McGlockton left his car idling in a handicap space Thursday to run into the store to purchase snacks. Jacobs was waiting in the car with their two children when Drejka approached and began “harassing” her for parking in a handicap space without a permit

McGlockton, seeing the confrontation, shoved Drejka to the ground, according to Jacobs. That’s when Drejka, who is white, pulled a gun and shot McGlockton, who is black, in the chest, just a few feet from the car.

McGlockton, wounded, stumbled into the store, where he collapsed. He was pronounced dead roughly 30 minutes later at a hospital.

Have you seen the video? The man violently assaulted the older man. They never even spoke to one another. He just came out of left field and attacked him. I'm glad the older man is OK, the video was scary and shows it to be self defense.

 

[Wagtales10]

Have you seen the video? The man violently assaulted the older man. They never even spoke to one another. He just came out of left field and attacked him. I'm glad the older man is OK, the video was scary and shows it to be self defense.

Yes Ive seen the Video. He shoved him. You are exaggerating, Drejka was on the ground and Markeis was almost 12 feet away. There was no threat of force. Drejka pauses then pulls out the gun and shoots him in cold blood. You are in denial if you think he had any reason to feel his life was threatened.

Based on demographics of terroristic shooters in the recent years I feel the woman had more to fear for her life of an screaming Drejka harassing her for no reason. Drejka has been reported to have threatened to shoot other people too in the past over small things like parking spots, he was a ticking time bomb looking to murder.

Without a doubt there should be marches in FL to get this man arrested.

 

[Wagtales10]

Markeis is clearly turned, feet facing opposite direction, hips pointing away from Drejka, walking away. Drejka point blank shoots him.

So if someone is getting abusive with my wife and I defend her, you'd say I deserve to be shot in the chest in front of my son from 8-12 feet away? Theres more to play in this and anyone who is remotely familiar with past similar cases know what too

 

[BayouBelle_LA]

Markeis is clearly turned, feet facing opposite direction, hips pointing away from Drejka, walking away. Drejka point blank shoots him.

So if someone is getting abusive with my wife and I defend her, you'd say I deserve to be shot in the chest in front of my son from 8-12 feet away? Theres more to play in this and anyone who is remotely familiar with past similar cases know what too

I see something different. Markeis (M) shoves Drejka (D)to the ground. Then M takes a step or two toward D, puts his hands at his waist as if to pull up his pants. I can see how D could perceive this as a further threat. D pulls the gun and only then, do we see M retreat.

 

[Wagtales10]

I see something different. Markeis (M) shoves Drejka (D)to the ground. Then M takes a step or two toward D, puts his hands at his waist as if to pull up his pants. I can see how D could perceive this as a further threat. D pulls the gun and only then, do we see M retreat.

literally none of that is happening in that photo. I am literally meaning literally. That is 100% fabricated by just looking at the photo and video. A cold hard mistruth.

Look the direction the of the feet, hips, he was walking away. Drejka made shooting threats to people before.

 

[BayouBelle_LA]

literally none of that is happening in that photo. I am literally meaning literally. That is 100% fabricated by just looking at the photo and video. A cold hard mistruth.

Look the direction the of the feet, hips, he was walking away. Drejka made shooting threats to people before.

Yes, he walks away after the man reaches for the gun

 

[Gardenista]

IMO, the jury got it right in the Zimmerman case, but it does look like the guy started to walk away after he assaulted the other guy. So it seems like SYG would not apply.

 

[Wagtales10]

Yes, he walks away after the man reaches for the gun

<modsnip: rude>

He was UNARMED!
Deadly Clearwater shooting sparks controversy over Stand Your Ground law
"he shooting of an unarmed man, Markeis McGlockton, at a Clearwater convenience story is inflaming controversy over Florida’s Stand Your Ground law even though some legal experts believe it might not even apply in this case."

What is happening in this world where a man can be murdered on camera and the shooter walks free. Of course just as the last high profile murder case involving this law the shooter is getting off free and I wonder why.... (psss and its not because he's right by any means)

 

[cvaldez1975]

Yes, he walks away after the man reaches for the gun

wouldn't that mean the threat was over? hes not advancing.

 

[bluesneakers]

wouldn't that mean the threat was over? hes not advancing.

He still "felt" scared. That's all the excuse they need.

If you're so afraid to be around people you have to start shooting them, maybe get some therapy.

 

[Wagtales10]

Stand Your Ground defense only applies when someone is in imminent fear of death or great bodily harm.

M walking away shows none of that

 

[SeesSeas]

Here's an opportunity to make a phone call:
Attorney, family of Markeis McGlockton to hold news conference about stand your ground shooting
Published: July 24, 2018
Updated: July 24, 2018 at 11:59 AM
CLEARWATER — The family of Markeis McGlockton, the 28-year-old man shot and killed in what authorities have deemed a "stand your ground" shooting, will hold a news conference at 4 p.m. today.
[...]
A news release from the Clearwater law firm Rayner Robinson notes the Sheriff’s Office referred the case to the Pinellas-Pasco State Attorney’s Office to decide whether to bring forth charges.
"We implore the community and the nation to contact the Office of Bernie McCabe at (727) 464-6221 and demand that a decision to file charges against Michael Drejka is made," it states.
[...]

 

[BayouBelle_LA]

<modsnip: rude>

He was UNARMED!
Deadly Clearwater shooting sparks controversy over Stand Your Ground law
"he shooting of an unarmed man, Markeis McGlockton, at a Clearwater convenience story is inflaming controversy over Florida’s Stand Your Ground law even though some legal experts believe it might not even apply in this case."

What is happening in this world where a man can be murdered on camera and the shooter walks free. Of course just as the last high profile murder case involving this law the shooter is getting off free and I wonder why.... (psss and its not because he's right by any means)

<modsnip>

One positive thing is that there is video footage of the incident. I'm sure it will be analyzed and dissected. Maybe there needs to be adjustments to the stand your ground law, idk.

 

[glamourkitty1922]

Yes Ive seen the Video. He shoved him. You are exaggerating, Drejka was on the ground and Markeis was almost 12 feet away. There was no threat of force. Drejka pauses then pulls out the gun and shoots him in cold blood. You are in denial if you think he had any reason to feel his life was threatened.

Based on demographics of terroristic shooters in the recent years I feel the woman had more to fear for her life of an screaming Drejka harassing her for no reason. Drejka has been reported to have threatened to shoot other people too in the past over small things like parking spots, he was a ticking time bomb looking to murder.

Without a doubt there should be marches in FL to get this man arrested.

If you looked at the video, Drejka seems calm and a bit exasperated. There is no screaming going on, at least not on his part. You can't see the person in the car. Drejka has a pristine record, if he had "threatened" others, he would lose his CCW permit. He was not a ticking time bomb. He was viciously assaulted by another person and was forced to defend himself. Why should he allow himself to be beaten just because he is weaker? That is not acceptable in a civilized society.

 

[flourish]

Wow, I just watched the video on a laptop screen, so I could see it better than on my phone. What I see is a bully harassing someone in a parked car. He goes on for longer than needed to point out that handicap spots are for those with a placard or other identifiable signage. Then a guy comes out of the store, pushes the bully away, and the bully falls to the ground and immediately shoots the other guy who was no longer coming at him.

The bully guy really could have handled that better. As someone mentioned earlier, he's not the parking lot police. It's annoying when people park in those spots without the placard. However, even with a placard, I've had people try to tell me that, since they apparently can't see a visible disability in me (or those I'm transporting), that I'm taking advantage. Thing is, issues like epilepsy aren't readily visible, but people feel the need to take it upon themselves to confront people and judge whether or not they should have the placard, as though the doctor who signed off on it doesn't count.

Back on topic, though, this shooter absolutely should have been taken into custody immediately pending an investigation. I don't see how it is at all reasonable for the local police to just decide a case fits in the "stand your ground," as that was not my understanding of that law in the first place. I may be wrong, but I understood that a person had to claim that as a defense, not that it was to be used to just avoid arresting shooters in the first place without an investigation.

I personally feel a common sense duty to retreat is more reasonable than go ahead and shoot if you want. There also needs to be a more objective definition of immediate danger, as just "feeling scared" is not a definitive threshold and offers too much wiggle room.

A guy died. Like, gone forever, never to be seen again dead. His children will never have their father again. People's lives are worth more than a poorly written and too-open-to-interpretation law which relies on subjective feelings.

If the bully had minded his own business and alerted the store owner about the parking issue, since it is their business, then there would not be the loss of life.

Also, I think when people are carrying a weapon, their threshold for "feeling threatened" changes versus when they are not carrying, and that's not okay, especially because these same people go on an on about how much safer they feel carrying their gun, but personally I think they're too quick to use it first and claim "feeling threatened" later.

It also does a disservice to those who have had to use that law when they did something in good faith.

 

[BayouBelle_LA]

No arrest in fatal shooting during argument over handicap parking space

According to the article he was shot in the chest. So it appears that he didn't retreat until after he was shot.

 

[BayouBelle_LA]

Yes Ive seen the Video. He shoved him. You are exaggerating, Drejka was on the ground and Markeis was almost 12 feet away. There was no threat of force. Drejka pauses then pulls out the gun and shoots him in cold blood. You are in denial if you think he had any reason to feel his life was threatened.

Based on demographics of terroristic shooters in the recent years I feel the woman had more to fear for her life of an screaming Drejka harassing her for no reason. Drejka has been reported to have threatened to shoot other people too in the past over small things like parking spots, he was a ticking time bomb looking to murder.

Without a doubt there should be marches in FL to get this man arrested.

Do you have a link to where he threatened to shoot others over parking spots. Let's stick to facts.

This is all I could find -
Records show Drejka does not have a criminal history in Florida, although the Sheriff’s Office had prior contact with him in 2012 when a driver accused him of pulling a gun during a road rage incident. Drejka denied he showed the gun, and the accuser declined to press charges. McGlockton’s history included a drug conviction in 2010 and an arrest for aggravated battery a decade ago, records show, but the charge was dropped.

No arrest in fatal shooting during argument over handicap parking space

 

[Sillybilly]

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