FL - Markeis McGlockton shot and killed in front of family, Clearwater, July 2018

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  • #61
A female sitting in a parked car with her children, and a strange man approaches and proceeds to yell and gesture in an angry fashion. It is absolutely understandable, possibly even expected, that she will feel discomfort and likely fear. This was not his business, not his parking lot, and the correct thing to do would be alert the authorities and allow them to do their job. Vigilante parking lot justice is unacceptable.

I agree to disagree on this, as, unless new information comes to light, my mind is decided.
If Jacobs was so fearful, I'd think she wouldn't have exited the vehicle. She exited the vehicle as boyfriend McGlockton was walking toward the 'scene' while he was making the decision to slam a guy to the ground.
 
  • #62
Re: I see a bully who was looking to shoot someone, and who harasses women and children when they're in vulnerable positions (ie: sitting in the passenger side of a parked car with the driver, and presumably the keys, inside a building out of eyeshot). He certainly didn't wait for the actual driver, who parked the car in that spot, to come out and discuss it with him. . .

Britany Jacobs is the driver who parked the vehicle in the handicap space.
In the video, Jacobs can be seen exiting the driver's door several seconds prior to McGlockton slamming Drejka to the ground.

No arrest in fatal shooting during argument over handicap parking space
Updated: July 24, 2018 at 01:21 PM
Jacobs parked in the handicap spot, she said, because the parking lot was busy and they were just stopping for a minute.
McGlockton went up to Drejka and "slammed him to the ground," the sheriff said.


Okay, well, then, that makes it all better. She was driving, parked in a handicap spot without a placard, and then was harassed by an armed vigilante parking lot protector extraordinaire and when her man attempted to stop the harassment, he was killed. Parking in a handicap spot is apparently a crime worthy of death without a trial. Instant execution by random nosy citizen is a-ok. Got it. Splendid.
 
  • #63
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  • #64
Okay, well, then, that makes it all better. She was driving, parked in a handicap spot without a placard, and then was harassed by an armed vigilante parking lot protector extraordinaire and when her man attempted to stop the harassment, he was killed. Parking in a handicap spot is apparently a crime worthy of death without a trial. Instant execution by random nosy citizen is a-ok. Got it. Splendid.
Just pointing out the accurate facts of the case. :)
 
  • #65
If Jacobs was so fearful, I'd think she wouldn't have exited the vehicle. She exited the vehicle as boyfriend McGlockton was walking toward the 'scene' while he was making the decision to slam a guy to the ground.

That sounds like she WAS afraid and went to her husband for protection from an angry ranting armed lunatic
 
  • #66
He had the right to point out that the woman was depriving the handicapped of their right to park.
Was she the driver? Did she instruct her husband to park there and did Drejka hear her saying that?
They are in a car, they are obviously safe from that weak older man.
Do we know what the conversation was about or if he threatened her?
You especially cannot assault weaker people just because you're stronger and you will win.
Are you suggesting his reaction would have been different if there was a let‘s say 25-year-old arguing with or harrassing (whatever you want to call it) his wife? Is this just a feeling you have or are there facts to substantiate that? I don‘t understand why you continuously call a 47-year-old man ”old and weak“? Does he have some kind of handicap?
 
  • #67
Her fear of a situation she did not bring on is discounted. The bully's "fear" in a situation he started is totally accepted. Got it.
Yep, the moment she got out of the car (as she is watching her boyfriend approach), it's TWO against ONE. And I think Drejka likely didn't see the guy coming. TWO against ONE. No need to slam the guy to the ground. No need to touch the guy at all.
 
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Do we know what the conversation was about or if he threatened her?
According to the sheriff's comments in the video, there was no threatening in their conversation.
 
  • #70
Yep, the moment she got out of the car (as she is watching her boyfriend approach), it's TWO against ONE. And I think Drejka likely didn't see the guy coming. TWO against ONE. No need to slam the guy to the ground. No need to touch the guy at all.

No need to be a belligerent bully, and think it's appropriate to do the job for the police department and/or the store owners. This parking lot vigilante is a coward. I will continue to agree to disagree. I did appreciate your providing clarification as to the driver, however.
:)
 
  • #71
Yep, the moment she got out of the car (as she is watching her boyfriend approach), it's TWO against ONE. And I think Drejka likely didn't see the guy coming. TWO against ONE. No need to slam the guy to the ground. No need to touch the guy at all.

<modsnipped personalized remark>... something that happens everyday all around the world with out ending in a point blank murder.

The extreme overreaction by a trigger happy lunatic is the issue here.
 
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  • #72
She was the driver.
No arrest in fatal shooting during argument over handicap parking space
Jacobs parked in the handicap spot, she said, because the parking lot was busy and they were just stopping for a minute.
And that's not cool. I don't believe there were no other available spots, or that she was particularly concerned, as there were at least two cars which managed to park elsewhere during the video. If she really was being cognizant, she would have moved when another spot became available. I don't have much love for those who park in those spots illegally. It's not worth dying or killing over, either, though. Certainly not worthy of vigilante justice!
 
  • #73
That sounds like she WAS afraid and went to her husband for protection from an angry ranting armed lunatic
She exited the vehicle and stepped toward the man, (the "angry ranting armed lunatic"). Vehicle is safer, and boyfriend was coming down the sidewalk to slam the guy to the ground.
 
  • #74
According to the sheriff's comments in the video, there was no threatening in their conversation.

His gestures were threatening. He may not have uttered a specifically threatening statement, like an intent to harm her, but I will definitely disagree with there being no threatening. It just wasn't verbally in their conversation, that's true, but he was threatening.
 
  • #75
Yep, the moment she got out of the car (as she is watching her boyfriend approach), it's TWO against ONE. And I think Drejka likely didn't see the guy coming. TWO against ONE. No need to slam the guy to the ground. No need to touch the guy at all.
Two against one= Drejka and his gun.
 
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Was she the driver? Did she instruct her husband to park there and did Drejka hear her saying that?

Do we know what the conversation was about or if he threatened her?

Are you suggesting his reaction would have been different if there was a let‘s say 25-year-old arguing with or harrassing (whatever you want to call it) his wife? Is this just a feeling you have or are there facts to substantiate that? I don‘t understand why you continuously call a 47-year-old man ”old and weak“? Does he have some kind of handicap?


Right?!?! 47 isn't even old enough for the senior discount. There are enough facts without having to make him out to be something he's not. Age is a number, not a definitive assessment of strength. (nor wisdom, for that matter!)
 
  • #77
Right?!?! 47 isn't even old enough for the senior discount. There are enough facts without having to make him out to be something he's not. Age is a number, not a definitive assessment of strength. (nor wisdom, for that matter!)
He could be disabled. We don't know. Does anyone know? There are all kinds of disabilities.
 
  • #78
He could be disabled. We don't know. Does anyone know? There are all kinds of disabilities.

Right. But the point was he was continuously being referred to as "weak," without anything to indicate such. It doesn't matter in that sense if he does or does not have a disability, because the assumption was being made regardless of any clarifying information.

Also, I've had my booty handed to me by many a disabled person, as that's part of my job. Even if he does have a disability, which we don't know if he does or does not, that does not automatically make him "weak," either.
 
  • #79
If you looked at the video, Drejka seems calm and a bit exasperated. There is no screaming going on, at least not on his part. You can't see the person in the car. Drejka has a pristine record, if he had "threatened" others, he would lose his CCW permit. He was not a ticking time bomb. He was viciously assaulted by another person and was forced to defend himself. Why should he allow himself to be beaten just because he is weaker? That is not acceptable in a civilized society.

his record is not pristine, he has a history of this behavior w cops called. no charges filed so he still has CCW.. we are assuming. I have not seen it verified he has a CCW. I don't see a "weaker" person I see a bully and racist who approaches women w their children to verbally assault them.
 
  • #80
He could be disabled. We don't know. Does anyone know? There are all kinds of disabilities.
That‘s why I was asking. I just quickly browsed through this thread and reading ”old and weak“ all through kind of irritated me.
 
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