FL - Markeis McGlockton shot and killed in front of family, Clearwater, July 2018

[justchrissy47]

VICTIM of a crime

Hardly a victim.....he"s a yet to be charged cold blooded murderer.

 

[cybervampira]

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The ultrastrong, young drug dealer had it coming and he absolutely deserved the bullet. The old-aged, fragile, weak traffic violator with pristine record exersizing his right to give another traffic violator a roasting probably knew about the drug dealer’s criminal record and that‘s why it wasn‘t enough to flash his gun and wait for the drug dealer to retreat. Only a bullet could stop that young and strong dude because no drug dealer will EVER just shove/slam/beat old people to the ground. They finish ’em off all the time!

I‘m getting there. Cheers!

 

[bluesneakers]

<modsnip: snip quoted post>The ultrastrong, young drug dealer had it coming and he absolutely deserved the bullet. The old-aged, fragile, weak traffic violator with pristine record exersizing his right to give another traffic violator a roasting probably knew about the drug dealer’s criminal record and that‘s why it wasn‘t enough to flash his gun and wait for the drug dealer to retreat. Only a bullet could stop that young and strong dude because no drug dealer will EVER just shove/slam/beat old people to the ground. They finish ’em off all the time!

I‘m getting there. Cheers!

By George I think she's got it!

 

[justchrissy47]

Wish we had that law in Canada....my drunk husband pushed me one time (now ex, but alas still alive). I was young, weighed more than he did and was in fear of my life. But I survived....as would have MD. Hope they checked him for any hip fractures........that's common in the "old and weak" population that are helped to the ground

 

[DexterMorgan]

Wish we had that law in Canada....my drunk husband pushed me one time (now ex, but alas still alive). I was young, weighed more than he did and was in fear of my life. But I survived....as would have MD. Hope they checked him for any hip fractures........that's common in the "old and weak" population that are helped to the ground

Wow. Florida makes it easy to kill your spouse and collect the insurance by just shooting them and say they pushed you to the ground.

I would pass that pamphlet out to every female domestic violence victim out there whom seriously needs an out. Wow.

 

[SeesSeas]

Mix of grief, energy at Markeis McGlockton funeral
Published: July 28, 2018
Updated: July 28, 2018 at 07:13 PM
LARGO — Inside Shiloh Missionary Baptist Church on Saturday, memories of Markeis McGlockton were everywhere.
On a banner near the altar. On T-shirts in the pews. In speeches by loved ones delivered just a few feet from where McGlocton lay in a wooden casket, killed in a "stand your ground’’ shooting last week that has drawn national attention.
[...]
His parents, Michael McGlockton and Monica Moore-Robinson, sat in the front pew with their son’s girlfriend, Britany Jacobs, who gave McGlockton one last hug before his mother closed the casket.
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[glamourkitty1922]

For all we know MD might have flashed his weapon at BJ and that is why Markeis shoved him away and to the ground.
We do have at least one other person that claims that he (MD) did just that in a prior parking altercation. IMO

Where do you see that on the video? The entire confrontation shows D every second.

 

[glamourkitty1922]

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The ultrastrong, young drug dealer had it coming and he absolutely deserved the bullet. The old-aged, fragile, weak traffic violator with pristine record exersizing his right to give another traffic violator a roasting probably knew about the drug dealer’s criminal record and that‘s why it wasn‘t enough to flash his gun and wait for the drug dealer to retreat. Only a bullet could stop that young and strong dude because no drug dealer will EVER just shove/slam/beat old people to the ground. They finish ’em off all the time!

I‘m getting there. Cheers!

I am loathe to trust any life to the compassion and humanity of a drug dealing felon with an obvious proclivity to violence.

 

[kimlynn]

Where do you see that on the video? The entire confrontation shows D every second.

My post reads in part...."for all we know" and "he might"
He (MD) has flashed his weapon in the past during altercations. That is also in my post.
Never posted that it could be seen in the video. I can't see both his hands at all times in the video.

 

[glamourkitty1922]

My post reads in part...."for all we know" and "he might"
He (MD) has flashed his weapon in the past during altercations. That is also in my post.
Never posted that it could be seen in the video. I can't see both his hands at all times in the video.

Where is a statement from the police saying that is true? All I read is random people on the net making baseless claims. Also, where is the video that would support your claim he flashed his weapon? We have the entire video. I don't see where it could happen. Can you just give me what second on the video it seems to occur?

 

[glamourkitty1922]

For anyone who doesn't believe that a violent shove can and is deadly, here is one example
15-Year-Old Girl Dies After Being Shoved To The Ground: DA

 

[Jennifer17]

For anyone who doesn't believe that a violent shove can and is deadly, here is one example
15-Year-Old Girl Dies After Being Shoved To The Ground: DA

I have no idea what that has to do with this. He did not die and was apparently uninjured.

 

[SeesSeas]

For all we know MD might have flashed his weapon at BJ and that is why Markeis shoved him away and to the ground.

If that happened, I am confident that my sheriff would have stated such after LE interview of BJ.
In fact, Sheriff Gualtieri stated "there was no physical violence, there was no threats".
MD did not 'flash his weapon at BJ'.
WATCH: Pinellas County Sheriff says no charges for 'Stand Your Ground' shooter
. . . he confronted Jacobs, and by all accounts, they got into a pretty significant yelling match. And there was no physical violence, there was no threats, but it was a disturbance. They were yelling at each other, and he was complaining about her parking in the handicapped spot.

 

[kimlynn]

Where is a statement from the police saying that is true? All I read is random people on the net making baseless claims. Also, where is the video that would support your claim he flashed his weapon? We have the entire video. I don't see where it could happen. Can you just give me what second on the video it seems to occur?

Post # 11 has information from the store manager that he had assaulted customers in the past in their parking lot. Customer R Kelly said that MD had made a threat to shoot him over a parking dispute. This is still under investigation.IMO

 

[kimlynn]

If that happened, I am confident that my sheriff would have stated such after LE interview of BJ.
In fact, Sheriff Gualtieri stated "there was no physical violence, there was no threats".
MD did not 'flash his weapon at BJ'.
WATCH: Pinellas County Sheriff says no charges for 'Stand Your Ground' shooter
. . . he confronted Jacobs, and by all accounts, they got into a pretty significant yelling match. And there was no physical violence, there was no threats, but it was a disturbance. They were yelling at each other, and he was complaining about her parking in the handicapped spot.

Okay but it is still under investigation.And again it was mentioned by me as a possibility due to past issues with MD.IMO

 

[SeesSeas]

For anyone who doesn't believe that a violent shove can and is deadly, here is one example
15-Year-Old Girl Dies After Being Shoved To The Ground: DA

Yes, MD could have died from the violent shove to the ground by MM.
Thankfully, MD is alive after MM violently assaulted him.

 

[SeesSeas]

Okay but it is still under investigation.And again it was mentioned by me as a possibility due to past issues with MD.IMO

But "past issues" don't matter in the investigation of this incident.
SHERIFF: "But what’s material here is what happened at that instant. . . if Markeis McGlockton had not walked up to him and slammed him the way he did on the ground, we wouldn’t be here having this discussion either.
So what’s relevant is not whether this guy is a good guy, a nice guy, whether he’s a jerk, whether he’s a thorn in people’s sides, and what he’s done. Whether it’s 3 weeks ago, 3 months ago or 3 years ago, what’s relevant—and the only thing we can look at here—is he in fear of further bodily harm because of what Markeis McGlockton did?"

WATCH: Pinellas County Sheriff says no charges for 'Stand Your Ground' shooter
Q: Speaking to the owner of the store, he tells us that the man who fired the shots is a nuisance there, that he’s caused problems in the past with other people. Do you know, are you familiar with this person? Have you been called there to deal with problems that this guy started in the past?

I’m not aware that we’ve been called there to deal with him in the past. There have been some incidents in the past, and we’re aware of those incidents. But what’s material here is what happened at that instant. You know—and we have to recognize—that if Markeis McGlockton had not walked up to him and slammed him the way he did on the ground, we wouldn’t be here having this discussion either.

So what’s relevant is not whether this guy is a good guy, a nice guy, whether he’s a jerk, whether he’s a thorn in people’s sides, and what he’s done. Whether it’s 3 weeks ago, 3 months ago or 3 years ago, what’s relevant—and the only thing we can look at here—is he in fear of further bodily harm because of what Markeis McGlockton did? And did he have the ability and the capability to carry this out? And the answer is yes. So that’s what we gotta look at.

And I’m not saying this guy…he might be a jerk, he might be a thorn in people’s side, he might be all of those things. That doesn’t matter. What matters is, did Markeis McGlockton slam him to the ground? Yeah he did. And was this guy put on his rear end, and in a position to do what he thinks McGlockton was getting ready to do, which was to come at him again and harm him? Yes. And does Florida law allow you to defend yourself and ‘Stand Your Ground’? It does. That’s what the Florida legislature has said.

Our job and our role is to not substitute our judgment for the law and what the legislature has crafted as a framework, but to enforce it equally and fairly as we’re required to do. I’m not saying I agree with it, but I don’t make that call.

 

[DexterMorgan]

For anyone who doesn't believe that a violent shove can and is deadly, here is one example
15-Year-Old Girl Dies After Being Shoved To The Ground: DA

The main point is you are armed and have constantly provoked arguments over the pettiest situations instead of just calling the cops.

So standing your personal ground is one thing. But provoking a situation with the knowledge that you will legally shoot is another.

Because the guy was obviously disgruntled like George Zimmerman and provoked an unnecessary situation by yelling at a mother while in her car.

Initiated verbal abuse is real and it shouldn't be overlooked once things escalate because you have a gun and a Stand Your Ground mentality. Jmo.

He was looking for trouble and now he wants to say I was standing my ground. Smh

 

[kimlynn]

But "past issues" don't matter in the investigation of this incident.
SHERIFF: "But what’s material here is what happened at that instant. . . if Markeis McGlockton had not walked up to him and slammed him the way he did on the ground, we wouldn’t be here having this discussion either.
So what’s relevant is not whether this guy is a good guy, a nice guy, whether he’s a jerk, whether he’s a thorn in people’s sides, and what he’s done. Whether it’s 3 weeks ago, 3 months ago or 3 years ago, what’s relevant—and the only thing we can look at here—is he in fear of further bodily harm because of what Markeis McGlockton did?"

WATCH: Pinellas County Sheriff says no charges for 'Stand Your Ground' shooter
Q: Speaking to the owner of the store, he tells us that the man who fired the shots is a nuisance there, that he’s caused problems in the past with other people. Do you know, are you familiar with this person? Have you been called there to deal with problems that this guy started in the past?

I’m not aware that we’ve been called there to deal with him in the past. There have been some incidents in the past, and we’re aware of those incidents. But what’s material here is what happened at that instant. You know—and we have to recognize—that if Markeis McGlockton had not walked up to him and slammed him the way he did on the ground, we wouldn’t be here having this discussion either.

So what’s relevant is not whether this guy is a good guy, a nice guy, whether he’s a jerk, whether he’s a thorn in people’s sides, and what he’s done. Whether it’s 3 weeks ago, 3 months ago or 3 years ago, what’s relevant—and the only thing we can look at here—is he in fear of further bodily harm because of what Markeis McGlockton did? And did he have the ability and the capability to carry this out? And the answer is yes. So that’s what we gotta look at.

And I’m not saying this guy…he might be a jerk, he might be a thorn in people’s side, he might be all of those things. That doesn’t matter. What matters is, did Markeis McGlockton slam him to the ground? Yeah he did. And was this guy put on his rear end, and in a position to do what he thinks McGlockton was getting ready to do, which was to come at him again and harm him? Yes. And does Florida law allow you to defend yourself and ‘Stand Your Ground’? It does. That’s what the Florida legislature has said.

Our job and our role is to not substitute our judgment for the law and what the legislature has crafted as a framework, but to enforce it equally and fairly as we’re required to do. I’m not saying I agree with it, but I don’t make that call.

That is the finding of the sheriff. Further investigation might lead to a different finding.IMO

 

[SeesSeas]

That is the finding of the sheriff. Further investigation might lead to a different finding.IMO

It 'might', but I doubt it.