FL - Markeis McGlockton shot and killed in front of family, Clearwater, July 2018

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  • #401
The main point is you are armed and have constantly provoked arguments over the pettiest situations instead of just calling the cops.

So standing your personal ground is one thing. But provoking a situation with the knowledge that you will legally shoot is another.

Because the guy was obviously disgruntled like George Zimmerman and provoked an unnecessary situation by yelling at a mother while in her car.

Initiated verbal abuse is real and it shouldn't be overlooked once things escalate because you have a gun and a Stand Your Ground mentality. Jmo.

He was looking for trouble and now he wants to say I was standing my ground. Smh
Where is the proof from the police on that? There is one person saying that they parked their truck in the handicapped space and D told him it's illegal. When did the truth become "verbal abuse"? And where is there any proof of D abusing the woman in the car or even talking to the man who attacked him? Where on the video do you see D SCREAMING? I see a calm discussion, I don't see any aggression or violence until M comes on the scene.
 
  • #402
Where is the proof from the police on that? There is one person saying that they parked their truck in the handicapped space and D told him it's illegal. When did the truth become "verbal abuse"? And where is there any proof of D abusing the woman in the car or even talking to the man who attacked him? Where on the video do you see D SCREAMING? I see a calm discussion, I don't see any aggression or violence until M comes on the scene.
I see a guy with a gun that had too much time on his hands and wanted to bust some baseballs.

The store owner said the guy constantly tried to provoke things with others as well


What if the victim thought this guy was trying to confront his wife.

Should he have played nice.
 
  • #403
I wonder how many people will cross Florida off as a place they want to visit after so many weird things happening there
 
  • #404
I wonder how many people will cross Florida off as a place they want to visit after so many weird things happening there
Hopefully, a lot of people will do that. It's waaaaay toooo overcrowded here.:D
 
  • #405
I see a guy with a gun that had too much time on his hands and wanted to bust some baseballs.

The store owner said the guy constantly tried to provoke things with others as well


What if the victim thought this guy was trying to confront his wife.

Should he have played nice.
Yes, he may still be alive if he had played nicely. I wish people would stop believing that violence is an appropriate response to words.
 
  • #406
Yes, he may still be alive if he had played nicely. I wish people would stop believing that violence is an appropriate response to words.

People are not inclined to play nice when a homicidal maniac is yelling at their family. And he turned out to be a killer, legal or not, he is a killer.
 
  • #407
Yes, he may still be alive if he had played nicely. I wish people would stop believing that violence is an appropriate response to words.
Dude. You obviously didn't comprehend my post. So let's just keep it moving shall we.

Btw. I see your intentions from miles away.

So no need to reply to me again.



Thank you.
 
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  • #408
I have no idea what that has to do with this. He did not die and was apparently uninjured.
How do you know he was uninjured? That was a nasty slam, very painful.
 
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People are not inclined to play nice when a homicidal maniac is yelling at their family. And he turned out to be a killer, legal or not, he is a killer.
I hardly consider him a killer, it was self defense and everyone is entitled to defend themselves. There was no homicidal maniac yelling at anyone, there was an angry woman who believed nobody had the right to tell her she wasn't entitled to park in a handicapped space, and there was a man with anger management problems who considered slamming a man to the ground to be an appropriate response to his woman being told she wasn't entitled to the handicapped space. My sympathies are with D and with every handicapped person who has been deprived of their right to access by insensitive people like that woman.
 
  • #411
He was sat on his bum as he should have been.
He was viciously assaulted by a violent man who was incapable of acting in a civilized manner. Thank goodness he was armed or he probably would be dead at the hands of that violent McGlockton.
 
  • #412
He was viciously assaulted by a violent man who was incapable of acting in a civilized manner. Thank goodness he was armed or he probably would be dead at the hands of that violent McGlockton.
No. He was sat on his bum, He was not likely to be dead. He was pusher over, given a push. Viciously assaulted by a shove? Get out.
 
  • #413
No. He was sat on his bum, He was not likely to be dead. He was pusher over, given a push. Viciously assaulted by a shove? Get out.
It's all on the video, and it's a violent slam to the ground. The only pusher was M McGlockton, who had a record for drug dealing as well as violence.
 
  • #414
It's all on the video, and it's a violent slam to the ground. The only pusher was M McGlockton, who had a record for drug dealing as well as violence.
No. It is not a violent slam to the the ground. He was pushed over and landed on his backside. You and your biased sheriff can say that again and again but it was not a brutal slam or assault. It was a shove to a man who was harassing his wife and children.
 
  • #415
Florida’s ‘Stand Your Ground’ law a license to kill young black men?
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In this Sunday, July 22, 2018 photo, Michael McGlockton, right, the father of Markeis McGlockton, wipes the face of his grandson and five year-old-son of Markeis, Markeis McGlockton Jr., as protesters gathered to voice their concerns in Clearwater Fla. The family of McGlockton issued an appeal through their attorney for the public to put pressure on State Attorney Bernie McCabe to file charges against Michael Drejka, who fatally shot the father of three last Thursday during an argument over a handicapped parking space outside a convenience store.
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The incident that led to the fatal shooting of McGlockton started when the shooter — Michael Drejka — took it upon himself to police a convenience store’s parking lot.

McGlockton and Jacobs, along with their three young children, pulled their vehicle into the handicapped parking space, and the father ran inside the convenience store with one of the children to buy candy.

The incident that led to the fatal shooting of McGlockton started when the shooter — Michael Drejka — took it upon himself to police a convenience store’s parking lot.

McGlockton and Jacobs, along with their three young children, pulled their vehicle into the handicapped parking space, and the father ran inside the convenience store with one of the children to buy candy.
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In this Sunday, July 22, 2018 photo, Britany Jacobs, 25, consoles her 5-year-old son Markeis McGlockton Jr., during a vigil for his slain father Markeis McGlockton Sr., 28, while their cousin Mesha Gilbert, 26, (left), looks on at Mt. Carmel Baptist Church in Clearwater, Florida.
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But a man who would let another man verbally assault his woman isn’t much of a man. McGlockton did what any real man in his situation would have done.

He put a stop to the harassment by pushing the 47-year-old Drejka.

A much younger man, McGlockton could have put Drejka’s lights out with one strong punch. Or he could have pummeled the older man with fists of fury. But he didn’t.

He swatted Drejka away like a fly.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/chicag...ck-men-markeis-mcglockton-michael-drejka/amp/
Much more at link
 
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  • #416
Florida's 'stand your ground' law incentivizes violence. Markeis McGlockton's death proves it.
Another killing. Another tragedy. And once again Florida’s “stand your ground” law is in the news after an unarmed man named Markeis McGlockton was shot to death on July 19 in front of his family during a dispute over a convenience store parking place. So far, the man who killed McGlockton has not been charged with any crime. Take a moment and think about that — a parking spot argument leads to a fatal shooting and no one is prosecuted. Is this where we wish to be as a country?

This question is asked, not rhetorically, but seriously. And it’s one that gets at the very basis of these laws, and of public policy generally. Why do we adopt the laws that we do? At best, Florida’s “stand your ground” law is a solution to a non-existent problem. At worst, it seems to have exacerbated the problem it ostensibly was designed to correct. Rather than improving the security of its citizens, it has actively lessened it. It has sown confusion among law-enforcement, prosecutors and the courts and its reach has extended to levels beyond the intent of at least one of the law’s primary sponsors, Dennis K. Baxley.
But what if McGlockton, instead of shoving Drejka, had instead pulled out a gun of his own and shot and killed him? Given the facts as reported, McGlockton could have claimed that he was the one acting reasonably by protecting not only himself, but also his girlfriend and young children. Drejka had approached the car unbidden, had acted aggressively and was armed. Under the principles of “stand your ground," it seems possible that McGlockton could have killed Drejka and successfully argued self-defense.
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But is this what we desire — a society that encourages killing instead of simply pushing away an aggressive individual? Even more perversely, the law seems to rewardindividuals who do the provoking while placing almost no constraints on the aggressor. Instead, it protects the individual who initiates the conflict, as it seems to have done in this instance. Drejka was shoved to the ground because of his aggressive behavior and yet, even though he created the hostile situation, he walked away unharmed and McGlockton is dead.
Opinion | Edward Queen: "Stand your ground" laws incentivize violence. Markeis McGlockton's death proves it.
Much more at link
 
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  • #419
After viewing the video, the only two crimes I saw are: unlawful use of a handicapped parking space, and assault
And a person is dead and a parking violation is the only crime you saw?
 
  • #420
After viewing the video, the only two crimes I saw are: unlawful use of a handicapped parking space, and assault

And a person is dead and a parking violation is the only crime you saw?

Not "the only crime".
Jim G wrote "two crimes":
After viewing the video, the only two crimes I saw are: unlawful use of a handicapped parking space, and assault
 
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