FL - Markeis McGlockton shot and killed in front of family, Clearwater, July 2018

[Jim G]

And a person is dead and a parking violation is the only crime you saw?

Yes, the death was legally justified as it was in self-defense from a violent "sneak" attack by someone twice his size and half as young. Drejka committed no crime. The key evidence is that after slamming Drejka, McGlockton continued to advance on him, and only withdrew when he saw Drejka reach for a firearm.

 

[Jim G]

And a person is dead and a parking violation is the only crime you saw?

Yes, the death was legally justified as it was in self-defense from a violent "sneak" attack by someone twice his size and half as young. Drejka committed no crime. The key evidence is that after slamming Drejka, McGlockton continued to advance on him, and only withdrew when he saw Drejka reach for a firearm

 

[cybervampira]

Not quoting the civil rights attorney representing Mr. McGlockton‘s girlfriend, but Mark O'Mara, George Zimmerman‘s defense attorney, from the clip above:

”When you look at the tape, McGlockton had backed away, there‘s a distance, he‘s not towering over him, and the idea of taking out the gun, pointing it - I‘m almost OK with that - but the idea of killing a man over a push that is now ended? I don‘t see the justification.“

”The idea with a 2, 3, 4 step back, backing up, and a 2, 3, 4 second delay, I think if you‘re going to exersize your 2nd Amendmend rights, and we have them, we will always have them, that you have to do it responsibly. And here‘s the problem. Someone like Drejka who used their weapon, in my opinion unreasonably, really affects the rest of us in our ability to properly utilize our 2nd Amendment rights because he used it improperly and now the focus is again on that.“

 

[glamourkitty1922]

No. It is not a violent slam to the the ground. He was pushed over and landed on his backside. You and your biased sheriff can say that again and again but it was not a brutal slam or assault. It was a shove to a man who was harassing his wife and children.

That's only true if you don't watch the video. I've watched the video. It was a brutal slam.

 

[Jennifer17]

That's only true if you don't watch the video. I've watched the video. It was a brutal slam.

I am pretty sure that we have all watched the video.

 

[glamourkitty1922]

Not quoting the civil rights attorney representing Mr. McGlockton‘s girlfriend, but Mark O'Mara, George Zimmerman‘s defense attorney, from the clip above:

”When you look at the tape, McGlockton had backed away, there‘s a distance, he‘s not towering over him, and the idea of taking out the gun, pointing it - I‘m almost OK with that - but the idea of killing a man over a push that is now ended? I don‘t see the justification.“

”The idea with a 2, 3, 4 step back, backing up, and a 2, 3, 4 second delay, I think if you‘re going to exersize your 2nd Amendmend rights, and we have them, we will always have them, that you have to do it responsibly. And here‘s the problem. Someone like Drejka who used their weapon, in my opinion unreasonably, really affects the rest of us in our ability to properly utilize our 2nd Amendment rights because he used it improperly and now the focus is again on that.“

The video's evidence shows what happened, however, you have to take into account the fact that M's victim was on the ground looking up at his assailant who was within a very few feet. He couldn't get up because that would leave him totally vulnerable to attack, so there was no way for D to escape to safety. Backing away would mean M was no longer able to attack D. He was still close enough to his victim to attack. Also M showed no physical sign of backing off the attack until he realized his victim was armed and at that point, it's too late. You don't pull your gun out and wave it around. Dangerous to bystanders and opens you up to your assailant taking the gun away. It is also illegal. D followed all protocol and that's why it's called self defense by law enforcement.

 

[glamourkitty1922]

I am pretty sure that we have all watched the video.[/QUOTE
And the video shows a man brutally slamming an older man to the concrete and looming over him.

 

[Jim G]

Notice how D keeps the gun trained on M until M re-enters the store. That tells me he was in mortal fear.

 

[cybervampira]

Notice how D keeps the gun trained on M until M re-enters the store. That tells me he was in mortal fear.

Interesting. How would someone train the gun who was in retaliation mode?

 

[Jim G]

Interesting. How would someone train the gun who was in retaliation mode?

"Retaliation mode"?? What's that? D was defending himself. The fact that he kept pointing the gun of his aggressor tells me was in mortal fear. If he was "retaliating," as you suggest, why didn't he fire more than once?

 

[flourish]

Interesting. How would someone train the gun who was in retaliation mode?

I'll ask all the hunters at work tomorrow, but I think it's like how one follows through when throwing a ball, more part of the shooting process than a show of fear.

SMH. This guy was a bully through and through, imo, shame on Florida, again. Yes yes I'm not knocking Floridians, per se, just holy cow that state is out of control and the last place in the US on my visit list for a long time now.

 

[Jim G]

The girlfriend was a nurse assistant, probably works with disabled people every day. But she illegally parks in a Handicap Spot?? Makes me scratch my head. STAND UP for the rights of the Handicapped!!

 

[cybervampira]

The fact that he kept pointing the gun of his aggressor tells me was in mortal fear.

I asked a simple question. If you can tell how someone in mortal fear points a gun, how about someone who is retaliating, or let‘s say a hitman, a bank robberer or a cop? Would they immediately put the gun down, throw the gun away, get up and run? Or is there a chance they keep pointing it at the target just like D?

 

[flourish]

It's not a death penalty offense to park in the handicap parking spot, nor was law enforcement even allowed to address it. The proper thing is to photograph the car in the spot, including the license number, and contact the PROPER authorities, not vigilante justice.

The handicap spot issue is a deflection attempt, anyway.

 

[Hraefn]

I think there is a lot of bias at work here, the largest of which being in regards to the handicapped. No one has defended the unlawful parking (is it even parking if the car is running and the driver is still in the vehicle?). It seems many here are so upset about the parking that they feel M deserved to be killed.

 

[Jim G]

I think there is a lot of bias at work here, the largest of which being in regards to the handicapped. No one has defended the unlawful parking (is it even parking if the car is running and the driver is still in the vehicle?). It seems many here are so upset about the parking that they feel M deserved to be killed.

D violated no law. M could have been arrested for assault. As per sheriff.

 

[SeesSeas]

McGlockton memorial turns chaotic Sunday
July 29, 2018 @2:32 PM
ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. -- A vigil for Markeis McGlockton turned chaotic Sunday morning.
[...]
"To stand for justice isn’t always a place of safety but God gives us courage to always do the right thing," said Reverend Andy Oliver, the pastor at Allendale United Methodist Church. "Disrupt traffic to send a clear message that this law is disrupting the lives of people and it needs to be repealed."
[...]
St. Petersburg Police officers responded to the protest.
After a few minutes in the street, protesters moved to the sidewalks with their signs.

 

[glamourkitty1922]

I'll ask all the hunters at work tomorrow, but I think it's like how one follows through when throwing a ball, more part of the shooting process than a show of fear.

SMH. This guy was a bully through and through, imo, shame on Florida, again. Yes yes I'm not knocking Floridians, per se, just holy cow that state is out of control and the last place in the US on my visit list for a long time now.

I totally agree that McGlockton was a bully and his victim was lucky to have survived that encounter.

 

[glamourkitty1922]

It's not a death penalty offense to park in the handicap parking spot, nor was law enforcement even allowed to address it. The proper thing is to photograph the car in the spot, including the license number, and contact the PROPER authorities, not vigilante justice.

The handicap spot issue is a deflection attempt, anyway.

You're right, this had nothing to do with the handicap space, it had everything to do with M brutally attacking D and slamming him into the ground for daring to speak to his woman

 

[glamourkitty1922]

I think there is a lot of bias at work here, the largest of which being in regards to the handicapped. No one has defended the unlawful parking (is it even parking if the car is running and the driver is still in the vehicle?). It seems many here are so upset about the parking that they feel M deserved to be killed.

Nothing to do with parking and everything to do with M brutally slamming D into the concrete for daring to speak to M's woman.