FL - Markeis McGlockton shot and killed in front of family, Clearwater, July 2018

[glamourkitty1922]

Think of all the people who are shot to death because someone takes offence at something that they have said or done.

Pity they didn't have a weapon to defend themselves when they were attacked. Like I said, D was very lucky to survive the encounter with MM. If he had not been armed, he might be dead at the hands of a man who took offence at his woman being told she was in a handicapped space.

 

[glamourkitty1922]

The woman needed to be pro active with her safety when confronted by an angry individual with his hand by his waist band. Too bad she was unarmed.

He was well with in pistol range of her car- and her family. I agree, you cannot kill for words, just actions. Thus, D's words did not make him a threat. Rather, he became a threat by confronting somebody and by keeping one hand near his waistband. I believe it was his right hand (saw the video a few times). My guess is that D could be right handed and shoots right handed. Go figure.

Too bad she was unarmed.

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That is not the legal definition of threat. She was not threatened, and she was not attacked. She says that in her police report. MM was killed because he ATTACKED a man, not because he said something to him. In fact there is no evidence MM and D said a word to each other. Remember MM attacked D from behind without warning. D was very lucky to survive that encounter.

 

[cybervampira]

http://wusfnews.wusf.usf.edu/post/pinellas-sheriff-blasts-sharpton-over-stand-your-ground-criticism

The Republican Sheriff spoke at an outdoor news conference on an unrelated matter in St. Petersburg Monday. He had strong words for Sharpton, who said Gualtieri should either arrest Drejka or give up his badge.

"Bunch of rhetoric. I don't pay much attention to it, to tell you the truth," said Gualtieri. "I wasn't there, don't really care what Al Sharpton has to say. Go back to New York, mind your own business."

 

[glamourkitty1922]

Pinellas Sheriff Blasts Sharpton Over Stand Your Ground Criticism

I agree with the Sheriff.

 

[Jennifer17]

Pity they didn't have a weapon to defend themselves when they were attacked. Like I said, D was very lucky to survive the encounter with MM. If he had not been armed, he might be dead at the hands of a man who took offence at his woman being told she was in a handicapped space.

All 13,000 a year of them?

 

[glamourkitty1922]

All 13,000 a year of them?

As many as possible. I consider the victim's life to be more important that the attacker's life. In a perfect world, people wouldn't be attacking other people for no good reason. If MM hadn't decided on a cowardly attack from behind, perhaps he would be alive.

 

[kimlynn]

We can't know what MM was feeling. To say MM shoved MD for no good reason isn't based on anything but opinion and will stay that way because he isn't alive to tell us anything different.
I don't think MM acted out of malice but had his own fears about MD harming his family.
How can some see one side of the need for protection of self or family but deny that same right to another? IMO

 

[glamourkitty1922]

We can't know what MM was feeling. To say MM shoved MD for no good reason isn't based on anything but opinion and will stay that way because he isn't alive to tell us anything different.
I don't think MM acted out of malice but had his own fears about MD harming his family.
How can some see one side of the need for protection of self or family but deny that same right to another? IMO

What reason can justify a man coming up behind another man and brutally slamming him into the ground. He couldn't have known what the conversation was about since he didn't pause to listen, he just attacked. You can't just attack someone for saying another person is in the handicapped space illegally. The woman admits in her police report that there was no threats or harassment. NO, MM's attack was unreasonable.

 

[Jennifer17]

What reason can justify a man coming up behind another man and brutally slamming him into the ground. He couldn't have known what the conversation was about since he didn't pause to listen, he just attacked. You can't just attack someone for saying another person is in the handicapped space illegally. The woman admits in her police report that there was no threats or harassment. NO, MM's attack was unreasonable.

By all witness reports it was not a conversation. It was a yelling match. And again, it was not a brutal slam, it was a shove.

 

[glamourkitty1922]

By all witness reports it was not a conversation. It was a yelling match. And again, it was not a brutal slam, it was a shove.

Actually by police reports it was a conversation and a brutal slam. Looking at the video it looks like a conversation and a brutal slam.

 

[kimlynn]

What reason can justify a man coming up behind another man and brutally slamming him into the ground. He couldn't have known what the conversation was about since he didn't pause to listen, he just attacked. You can't just attack someone for saying another person is in the handicapped space illegally. The woman admits in her police report that there was no threats or harassment. NO, MM's attack was unreasonable.

And yet again...MM was on a walkway and approached MD from the side. You don't know what MM knew or saw or heard.
You don't know if other customers came in the store and told others that there was an altercation outside over parking. You don't know if BJ texted or called MM out from the store to help her.
You claim to know that MD was in fear for his very life, but you don't know that either. He could have been angry versus being in fear.
Bottom line you can post the same post everyday all day,but it is still opinion.
IMO

 

[glamourkitty1922]

And yet again...MM was on a walkway and approached MD from the side. You don't know what MM knew or saw or heard.
You don't know if other customers came in the store and told others that there was an altercation outside over parking. You don't know if BJ texted or called MM out from the store to help her.
You claim to know that MD was in fear for his very life, but you don't know that either. He could have been angry versus being in fear.
Bottom line you can post the same post everyday all day,but it is still opinion.
IMO

What did he hear in the second between exiting the store and attacking D? A reasonable person would be afraid if they were in D's situation. Lying on the concrete after being brutally slammed by someone you didn't know was coming for you. How would you feel if you were in his place? If you just received a blindside slam that took you off your feet and down to the concrete? If you were on the concrete and the person who attacked you was a couple of feet away staring down at you. A person who proved a second ago that he didn't care about your wellbeing. A person larger, younger, and quite capable of beating you to death.

 

[kimlynn]

First I wouldn't put myself into the role of confronting a stranger.Not when I have other options.
My first reaction would be shock and then anger.
I would then haul my up and put space between myself and the person that shoved me.
I would NOT reach for a gun to kill the person. Of that I am sure. IMO

 

[scadagirl28]

The Sheriff referred to the *conversation* as a disturbance. A witness reported it to the store clerk. The Sheriff said that the 4 second pause between when the gun was brandished and fired gave him pause. He also said the law is too subjective and makes his office liable.

 

[DexterMorgan]

They probably didn't check to see if the shooter was under the influence of alcohol or drugs.

 

[glamourkitty1922]

First I wouldn't put myself into the role of confronting a stranger.Not when I have other options.
My first reaction would be shock and then anger.
I would then haul my up and put space between myself and the person that shoved me.
I would NOT reach for a gun to kill the person. Of that I am sure. IMO

If you "haul your up" you have to put your hands upon the ground to get up and therefore you have no way to defend yourself from another attack. You would allow yourself to be beaten?

 

[glamourkitty1922]

They probably didn't check to see if the shooter was under the influence of alcohol or drugs.

Of course they checked. If he had been under the influence, it is illegal to carry the gun. You must be sober.

 

[glamourkitty1922]

First I wouldn't put myself into the role of confronting a stranger.Not when I have other options.
My first reaction would be shock and then anger.
I would then haul my up and put space between myself and the person that shoved me.
I would NOT reach for a gun to kill the person. Of that I am sure. IMO

By the way, if you park in a handicapped space illegally, sooner or later someone will tell you what you're doing. You don't get any more inconsiderate than to illegally park in a handicapped space. By the way, it is quite legal for someone to tell you that. It falls under the Freedom of Speech, and it is not an excuse for someone to beat you over. If MM had acted in a reasonable civilized manner, things would be very different.

 

[glamourkitty1922]

The Sheriff referred to the *conversation* as a disturbance. A witness reported it to the store clerk. The Sheriff said that the 4 second pause between when the gun was brandished and fired gave him pause. He also said the law is too subjective and makes his office liable.

You mean 2 seconds since you can't count the time the poor man was rolling on the ground trying to get into a sitting position. Watch the video at normal speed, and you will see.

 

[DexterMorgan]

If you "haul your up" you have to put your hands upon the ground to get up and therefore you have no way to defend yourself from another attack. You would allow yourself to be beaten?

Why hire a hitman to kill your spouse when you can simply say they pushed me to the floor and I stood my ground.

I wonder if that would fly without a 2nd guess?