FL - Mass Shooting at Pulse nightclub, Orlando, 12 June 2016 #2

[sonjay]

Like most things, 'irrational' is a subjective term. It's irrational to fear an Amish dude next to you on a plane, not so much a CAIR imam.

Phobias are by definition irrational. It's not irrational to fear or hate a people if they really do want to kill you. Islamic terrorists really do want to kill us, and it's not irrational to fear and hate them.

 

[rsd1200]

So? What laws were broken? It's no more offensive to me than Obama inviting clock boy to the White House to celebrate his mock suitcase bomb.

And there's that double standard, but I was replying to stmarysmead.

 

[jjenny]

Really? I have serious doubts. We're bringing in so-called refugees in droves. There's no way they're all being vetted sufficiently. We're letting multitudes of foxes into the henhouse, and people are going to be shocked and wring their hands and hold vigils the next time it happens. And the next time. And the next time after that.

Vast majority of shootings in US doesn't involve refugees.

 

[stmarysmead]

Not sure. That McCarthy thing bothers me. The witch hunts. Just don't know

Human, when there are so many witches, that these types of attacks become commonplace, we must do something. I despise hate speech...whether it comes from a white, brown, Black, Muslim, Christian, Wiccan ...whatever mouth. This world is filled with wonderful people, who have different skin hues, different faiths. I don't want ANYONE spewing violence to incite to hurt them. That's not McCarthyism. Not calling for unemployment of people who disagree with my views. I'm calling for acceptance of those who disagree with my views and my faith.

But when others start agitating for the death of those who don't agree with them...no tolerance. They do not deserve to be in a free society. They do not deserve my tolerance when THEY have none.

 

[Only4Justice]

That is not true and it's also an incredibly inflammatory statement to make.

Thank you bluesneakers. Let's spread more hate around FGS.

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[Renee110]

Fox News Breaking.... killer visited Pulse night club a dozen times before massacre..

 

[CoolJ]

Freedom of speech I assume. Another poster insinuated that this speaker probably supports ISIS, my point was the "death to homosexuals" viewpoint is standard among virtually all branches of Islam. The folks that are okay with Sharia Law are also okay with the execution of homosexuals, can't like one and reject the other.

<mod snip> Homosexuality in Islam is a work in progress, there are no hard and fast rules. Times are changing and many Muslim scholars wish for the interpretations to change as well. <mod snip>

 

[i.b.nora]

By holed up do you mean as in won't come out or avoiding media?

It was Kerry Sanders report on MSNBC. He was reporting on how reporters gained access to the home after the FBI was supposedly done.. I think he meant hiding out, avoiding media.

 

[CARIIS]

This was a homophobic act, committed by a nasty, violent and mentally ill religious extremist , latent homosexual .
Strictly speculation, imo.

TY my dear dotr

Summed it up "perfectly . Totally closeted IMO

Folks have no idea how many married men, with wives, and kids, are running around our bars looking for some quick sex, so they can go home to their wives and kids .......................

 

[Tulessa]

I'm A-B negative and I'm donating. Who's with me? WS can make a difference.

 

[tehcloser]

Fox News Breaking.... killer visited Pulse night club a dozen times before massacre..

And got caught messing around with the hated lifestyle....imo. oh brother

 

[JLSChook]

It's not Islamo-"phobia" if they really ARE trying to kill you.

So sick of that ridiculous word.

I'm even sicker of the gay man who was quoted upthread (in an article) that said not to use HIS community (LGBT, I gather) to promote Islomophobia. Really, pal? Does this gay man know exactly what they think of his sexual preference? Does he get that his horrific "sin" is punishable by death and he is looked upon as a disgusting pervert in their culture?

:gaah:

 

[CARIIS]

Here is the 7-11 video

http://www.wesh.com/news/multiple-gunshots-heard-in-snapchat-video/40018078

 

[rsd1200]

So? What laws were broken? It's no more offensive to me than Obama inviting clock boy to the White House to celebrate his mock suitcase bomb.

BTW, did clock boy personally threaten you? And were you in the audience when clock boy was invited to the WH? If so, I can see why you'd be afraid of clock boy. If not, then not so much.

 

[Rhino-Esq]

About the VICTIMS:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/pulse-orlando-nightclub-shooting/victims/os-pulse-nightclub-orlando-shooting-victims-htmlstory.html

 

[CARIIS]

Here is the video inside the bar when the shooting started - she died

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...oments-shots-rang-inside-Pulse-nightclub.html

 

[sonjay]

It's not Islamo-"phobia" if they really ARE trying to kill you.

So sick of that ridiculous word.

I'm even sicker of the gay man who was quoted upthread (in an article) that said not to use HIS community (LGBT, I gather) to promote Islomophobia. Really, pal? Does this gay man know exactly what they think of his sexual preference? Does he get that his horrific "sin" is punishable by death and he is looked upon as a disgusting pervert in their culture?

:gaah:

Exactly so. We can't protect the gay community by importing those who want to kill them. It doesn't work that way.

 

[CSIDreamer]

This just occurred to me. I went this morning. That was concrete, news kinda thing. I have noticed, from local news, there are tons of sad things going on around here today.

There is a want to do it -- I think some of this is my mothers thing - but I know , right now tonight (and yesterday) I am feelings wise, unavailble, to do a vigil.

You all kept me ocupied yesterday. And what we really do is hunt endlessly to try and find facts that help us understand the "why" of anything we share with one another.

No issue with weeping, in combo with mother and this. We all, however know, that no matter how "helpful" that process is draining.

And this started with my battery pretty drained

so I suppose, its ok today that I just want to stay here, on Ws , facts only - not go to a vigil. Who knows, last night I did not think I would be ok doing what I did today

Maybe in the next couple of days I will want, and will do a totally greiving experience.

I remained thrilled that noone in the hosptial has passed.................I think that is something else!!

Here is this mornings presser--it was good

http://www.wesh.com/news/local-fede...te-on-orlando-shooting-investigation/40028182

I'm sure with your mother's loss and now this ... hitting so close to home in more ways than one. You're beyond frazzled, overwhelmed, and exhausted. Are you attending memorials, funerals for your mother's companion?

 

[rsd1200]

I'm A-B negative and I'm donating. Who's with me? WS can make a difference.

If I were there I would! I'm pretty far away though.

 

[JLSChook]

The problem is, you and other posters are painting Muslims with the same brush as these "Islamic Terrorists" . To hate all Muslims because of a crazy few. That my friend is irrational. And racist. JMO

Islam isn't a race. LOL...Wow.

Read and study the Qur'an like I have for several years and then get back to us. You're not the expert on all controversial subjects, as much as you claim to be.