FL - Mass Shooting at Pulse Nightclub, Orlando 12 June 2016 #4

[jjenny]

How can one win, in a country where after 9/11 we were simultaneously urged to "tell what you know" yet admonished for profiling people. I mean at the very same time. Thats a lose-lose right there. Painted me as confused ever since.

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Well, exactly.

 

[popsicle]

MSM finally found the quit claim deed he did on his house in April for $10 to his sister. (FOX) I was wondering when they would come out with this.

 

[human]

We don't have any laws that say it's illegal for middle eastern men to buy guns or ammunition.

I don't think anyone is that good at identifying what background people are from. I think we would have to make a law that it is darker skin and black hair, although there are Persians with blonde hair. Soooooo-- not so easy. It was easier to round up the Japanese.

 

[sonjay]

We don't have any laws that say it's illegal for middle eastern men to buy guns or ammunition.

See something, say something. It doesn't matter if the specific behavior in question was illegal or not. The gun shop was right to report him.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Are these the guys that are contained and severely damaged ? Somebody might want to let them know they need to stand down then.



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These guys have nothing to do with religion OR ideology. They simply enjoy killing and creating mayhem for the hell of it. To me, they appear to be a bunch of sadistic serial killers run amok. There are plenty of videos on the internet that show unedited footage of them beheading, burning, drowning, dragging and executing people in what amounts to just "another day of business" for them. The U.S. media filters all of these videos, so the average person has no idea how deranged and sadistic these guys really are. I could give a link out to enable folks to view a huge library of these videos, but I imagine it would be deleted pretty quickly.

The only way to get rid of them is to exterminate them like the pests they are, post haste.

I absolutely do agree with your description of these type of Islamic terrorists. However; I do believe they do what they do based on their extreme Islamic Muslim views. They really do believe all of this twisted ideology.

To me they are nothing but a cult but cults do believe whatever the leader/s put out and tells them to believe. Imo, these mass murderers are taking the Quran literally. I have never quite understood though why anyone would want to believe and follow a God of hate and violence or follow a Profit who tells them their God wants murders to be done in order to get into their heaven. But then we have seen cults who truly believe in alien beings and worship them. So I really don't understand any of what I feel are cults.

These seem to be a group of sociopaths with full blown sadistic tendencies. The methods they use are barbaric and it seems they are always thinking of new barbaric ways to murder, all involving unbelievable torture. However they do them over and over again everyday and no one is stopping them. Even other Muslims abroad are also murdered by ISIS and other terrorist groups. The only way anyone lives is if they are absolutely clones of each other believing the exact religious belief. I did read they will let some live as long as they pay some kind of tax to ISIS which is just like the Mafia in the old days.

Whatever they are they certainly aren't contained nor have they been severely damaged. They are spreading out in more and more countries now. I just wish for once he would be honest with the American people about the war that has been declared on the free world (including us) by ISIS and other Islamic terrorists... instead of lying when everyone knows its a lie to begin with. I even felt his speech yesterday was more about blaming law abiding Americans than this horrible Islamic terrorist who murdered and wounded over a hundred innocent people which is the largest mass shooting in our history.

I cant stand to look at any of those videos. I did look at one and it gave me nightmares for weeks.

 

[sonjay]

There is nothing so far suggesting OM actually was a recruit or in contact with ISIS. Seem he was "inspired" by ISIS and other terrorist organizations.

He traveled to the Middle East twice in recent years. He was active in a mosque with terrorist ties. He took some online course taught by a terrorist to encourage terrorism.

That's a lot of nothing.

 

[steelman]

There is nothing so far suggesting OM actually was a recruit or in contact with ISIS. Seem he was "inspired" by ISIS and other terrorist organizations.

How do you eat an elephant ?......................one bite at a time. Let's take out ISIS first, and then worry about the people who love and adore them.

If we're going to win, we have to be just as ruthless and unforgiving as they are.

 

[sonjay]

How do you eat an elephant ?......................one bite at a time. Let's take out ISIS first, and then worry about the people who love and adore them.

If we're going to win, we have to be just as ruthless and unforgiving as they are.

ITA. Perhaps if the ISIS adorers saw the annihilation of ISIS, there wouldn't be so many who love and adore them.

 

[ninij9]

ITA. Perhaps if the ISIS adorers saw the annihilation of ISIS, there wouldn't be so many who love and adore them.

Sadly, I don't think that it's just ISIS, forgive me all, but there is something amiss in a religion that leaves itself open time and time again to perversion. And yes, Christianity was violent , old testament and all that. Except that the new testament superceded it and that's a fact. Jmo. Moo.

How do you eat an elephant ?......................one bite at a time. Let's take out ISIS first, and then worry about the people who love and adore them.

If we're going to win, we have to be just as ruthless and unforgiving as they are.

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[steelman]

I'm not aware of any religion that teaches its followers to march 19 innocent women into a steel cage and burn them alive.

That isn't jihad, it sadistic extermination carried out by barbarians.

 

[Hatfield]

We don't have any laws that say it's illegal for middle eastern men to buy guns or ammunition.

Didn't we just go through all this earlier.

It wasn't just his language. It was his actions. He got on the phone after the employee told him they didnt have the body armor. It was like he was in collusion with someone else. Which by itself is very unusual and suspicous. He was causing suspicion himself.
The employee did the right thing.

 

[Paige SC]

How do you eat an elephant ?......................one bite at a time. Let's take out ISIS first, and then worry about the people who love and adore them.

If we're going to win, we have to be just as ruthless and unforgiving as they are.

Meh, if it's not isis, it's hezbollah, if it's not hezbollah it's the taliban. If not the taliban it's al qaeda. It's all the same ideology, just slight differences in interpretation. It's my belief that it's not a matter of radical Islam, it's all of islam. ‎Islam is a death cult built atop a political ideology dedicated to total world domination via mass immigration without assimilation (and submission through terror.) ‎

 

[oceanblueeyes]

He traveled to the Middle East twice in recent years. He was active in a mosque with terrorist ties. He took some online course taught by a terrorist to encourage terrorism.

That's a lot of nothing.

He is the most dangerous type of Islamic terrorist. One who is homegrown who feeds off of the violent videos ISIS puts out and when the ISIS leaders call for murderous attacks during Ramadan. Although they would like any terrorist to strike us dead no matter the time. His role models were terrorists ...suicide bombers.

ISIS doesn't even have to fund these kind of terrorists nor do they have to worry about being picked up by the CIA or FBI chatting with the terrorist here. Its a win win situation for ISIS when people like Mateen strikes at the heart of our country. He is the type which is the most terrifying Islamic terrorist we can face here.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

How did they know he was speaking Arabic? There are so many languages on earth.

Maybe the employee is a veteran who served in the middle east and is familiar with Arabic.

 

[jjenny]

Didn't we just go through all this earlier.

It wasn't just his language. It was his actions. He got on the phone after the employee told him they didnt have the body armor. It was like he was in collusion with someone else. Which by itself is very unusual and suspicous. He was causing suspicion himself.
The employee did the right thing.

Did I ever say employee shouldn't have reported this?
The employee didn't have the name, or the license plate number, or apparently a video (or it was grainy and of no use). And according to CNN, the store actually reported another group of people, not OM. The suspicious person was only mentioned when this other group of people was investigated.

 

[jjenny]

Maybe the employee is a veteran who served in the middle east and is familiar with Arabic.

If they were familiar with the language then presumably they would have known what language it was and what was said.

 

[human]

Sadly, I don't think that it's just ISIS, forgive me all, but there is something amiss in a religion that leaves itself open time and time again to perversion. And yes, Christianity was violent , old testament and all that. Except that the new testament superceded it and that's a fact. Jmo. Moo.



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You must have missed all of the exposes of priests and pastors, etc. with child sex sbuse. I know the man who the courage to expose a pastor in my city was totally ostracized and villified by the church when he reported

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I'm not aware of any religion that teaches its followers to march 19 innocent women into a steel cage and burn them alive.

That isn't jihad, it sadistic extermination carried out by barbarians.

Unfortunately all of these barbaric ways to murder are carried out by jihadists. They believe what they believe no matter how sadistic and perverse we view it. The laws in many middle eastern countries concerning homosexuality being punishable by death is based on their Muslim religion and beliefs. So it isn't just terrorists who believe in murder or advocates for it to happen, but anyone who kills someone because of their sexual orientation is a murderer, imo. Yet some of these countries are our allies.

It is one of the strangest religions I have ever read about. I still have no clue why anyone would want to follow a Profit who tells people they are to murder others. Why wouldn't they want a loving God? A God of forgiveness for all? I just don't think I will ever understand it and then knowing Imams are teaching this type of hate right here is even more mindboggling that it is allowed.

 

[human]

No, he won't. And every day ISIS is getting bigger, stronger and more spread out across the entire planet. They have recruits that have been trained and sent back home to just about every single country that exists. I would imagine there are hundreds, if not thousands of them that have been sent back here to the U.S. . That's why it's imperative to get hold of their records and computer files and track down their recruits and soldiers to wherever they may be living.

ISIS sleeper cells and lone wolf attackers pose just as much of a threat to everyone, maybe even more, than their organized army does. At least we know where their headquarters and training facilities are, along with a bunch of their fighters.

We don't know that about the recruits who were trained and sent back home however.

It looks like females can be drafted now so there are more to choose from to send off to war.

 

[ninij9]

You must have missed all of the exposes of priests and pastors, etc. with child sex sbuse. I know the man who the courage to expose a pastor in my city was totally ostracized and villified by the church when he reported

Nope. Haven't missed a thing. Besides, the priests aren't using text from the Bible to excuse their pedophilia, they use the church to hide in. It sucks, it really does, but I would love for an example of a pedo priest sighting his religion as justification for pedophilia. Different from what I am saying.

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