FL - Mass Shooting at Pulse Nightclub, Orlando 12 June 2016 #4

[Isabelle]

Smh. And really? How does this happen?

Another Brenda Delgado.

 

[CARIIS]

Another Brenda Delgado.

Hi Isabelle!

fugitive wanted she had been charged with a crime . I do not think they have charged the wife anything have they?

Just curious anyone remeber time they released his identity??CNN the told the family at 400? That was before the breach?

Dr Ibraham operated on many victims that night

What just struck me - I would have to think the fatality rate was what it is cause of the hostage thing and many died after the intial shooitng - dont know why that just hit me

 

[CARIIS]

Not if the driver wasn't around. If a rental is delivered to your home, there's usually no reason for whomever delivered it to hang around. I think we're all assuming he took the guns somewhere and offloaded them to the rental. Maybe not.

Report local news outlet this AM he went in with a backpack. Speculation Ikinda wonder if (he was in there a while before he went out to his car) he put the bag somewhere in there earlier. Casue the police chief said the shooting started in the bar, the cop outside was dealing with an underage drinking issue, heard the shoots inside , called for backup and ran in

CNN he barricaded himself in the bathroom

Certainly the ignore option is one. The other is learn other options that do not neccessily fit with what I think - but can expand my options and my thoughts by seeing what others think!

Blinders tend to never expand the mind IMO!!

Smh. And really? How does this happen?

I dont think they could do anything like hold her unless she has been charged with breaking a law, No?

 

[Wise Old Owl]

Just because they haven't charged her doesn't mean that they can't watch her.

All Dad said was that she "has left the area" - well, she probably went back to California.

But you can bet LE has eyes on her (or where she is staying).

Those "missing" headlines are just sensationalized because someone said she has left the area.




JMHO

 

[JLSChook]

Top righthand corner of this screen click on "settings".......at next screen, scroll down on left to "MY Account", there you will see an option for "edit ignore list". Copy and paste or just type in the username of the person.

It's much easier to click on the person's name, go to their profile and choose "Add to Ignore List"

Not that I would EVER do that, mind you. :blushing: :angel:

 

[Paige SC]

Useful idiot terrorists: Sympathizers and/or converts recruited and radicalized by various islamic organizations (hiding behind a religious designation) to carry out terror attacks. Many are radicalized in prison, compliments of the chaplain imam. Others seek out social media.

Muslim terrorists: muslims of arab descent who are groomed and conditioned from birth to kill innocents and sacrifice themselves in the name of a totalitarian regime/death cult disguised as religion.

The worst mass shooting in US history just happened and we're pontificating whether or not the muslim terrorist could pass 'terror training.' We're talking about isis as if they're a legitimate business with corporate headquarters somewhere. Isis are terrorists with cells everywhere people! They aren't an elaborate, independent caliphate. They were born out of the arab spring. Isis is an ideology comprised of jihadis sprawling the globe. Any faction is isis. Isis isn't any different than the taliban or hezbollah. It's the same death cult with a slightly different flag. It's islam at its most fundamental level.

 

[Sonya610]

Interesting...

West Hollywood plastered with rainbow #ShootBack signs

Stickers and posters featuring a rainbow-colored version of the Gadsden flag and the hashtag #ShootBack were raising eyebrows in West Hollywood on Thursday morning in the wake of the massacre at a gay nightclub in Florida.

The signage was affixed to electric boxes, light poles, trash cans and other fixtures near West Hollywood City Hall, the Pacific Design Center and along Santa Monica Boulevard. Several were hung near the Abbey Food & Bar, a well-known gay lounge.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-weho-shootback-rainbow-20160616-snap-story.html

 

[Wyle_E_Coyote]

The dude was gay! There is nothing "terroristy" about a gay guy doing gay days, of for three years him attending a gay bar. Its not like he was stirght, had never been to the bar and was casing it . He had been going for years. He is insane on gay sex sites.

CARIIS, I asked this up thread, but it got buried.

Do you have any thoughts on why none of his hookups have come forward for their 15 minutes, especially with media willing to pay for interviews? If he's been active in the gay community at least 3 years, and on apps like grinder, there must be sex partners out there. Any insight?

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[Renee110]

CARIIS, I asked this up thread, but it got buried.

Do you have any thoughts on why none of his hookups have come forward for their 15 minutes, especially with media willing to pay for interviews? If he's been active in the gay community at least 3 years, and on apps like grinder, there must be sex partners out there. Any insight?

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This.

 

[CARIIS]

I dont think that folks that think it may be a hate crime or an illiness are ISIS sympathizer.s

I think it is more about as days pass and more info comes out , different notions arise based on the facts as they emerge IMO

Those being

no ties found yet.

Wife remains free one of her texts was where are you. She did not drop him off

Someone is calling a mass shooter about their meds

Interesting that they calling this person a medical person - I have never heard that before !! Release what kind of medical person that is . That in and of itself IMO is super strange - I have never heard of some kind medical person!! I think most of us know what that means!

There is a long history of lying about terrorist ties for years

His father is not this big radical terrorist - he runs in elections when they are not having any elections, and pays for air time to run his little speechs

Having an affilation with a "terror school" has been debunked. The one the media made up is an online school - there is no record of him being on the website

 

[Renee110]

no ties found yet?

?????

 

[barcode]

Hi bar!

A liitle confused what do you mean?

Sorry it came across as confusing BUT it was because posters were using and referring to the people who wrote the news articles....IE Video of gun store owner clearly stated foreign language and the reporter in article said Arabic and then the reporter used the word grainy to describe the video BUT gun store owner said the tape was lapped over....Hope that makes more sense.

 

[popsicle]

No medical person called him. He called a friend that is in the medical field and they spoke... the friend said one of the things he spoke to him about is medication. CNN speculated that maybe he was trying to tell Matten there are alternatives but who knows until we find out, if we find out.

 

[CARIIS]

This.

I kinda think his internalized homophobia resulted in such shame and humulation he was emotionally unable to actually have sex with a man.

What do you guys think about noone (I guess) indicating he sex with someone ??

One poster thought like who would admit to it - but if you think about it that would not like be ones fault.

He was not ugly or fat. It seems the only thing that has turned a lot off to him is how he behaved oddly.

A lot of gay men acknoledge that they are married and have kids when in a bar. We do not judge that, but feel sorry for thier inability to have ascknowledged who and what they are , and having to pretend to be hetero and marry while running around gay bars whenever they get away....

 

[CARIIS]

Stuff found in San Bern home

 

[Everyday Grace]

FBI agents on Friday questioned a member of the Islamic Center of Fort Pierce, according to Omar Saleh, a lawyer with the Council of American-Islamic Relations who sat in on the 30-minute questioning session.

"We were meeting with some agents," said Saleh, who declined to identify the person interviewed. "They were asking questions relative to the incident that happened on Sunday."

U.S. officials, who have also interviewed Mateen's wife, have said they do not believe he was assisted from abroad in the attack, which also wounded 53 people.

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0Z30JX

 

[CARIIS]

Both a bedroom and bathroom decked out in Star Wars stuff

 

[Everyday Grace]

No medical person called him. He called a friend that is in the medical field and they spoke... the friend said one of the things he spoke to him about is medication. CNN speculated that maybe he was trying to tell Matten there are alternatives but who knows until we find out, if we find out.

Thank you for that clarification.

 

[Paige SC]

no ties found yet??????

Yanno?!? A necktie with isis printed on it from corporate isis. The ties are autographed by Lord Isis himself. They only award them to their most distinguished terrorists. Beware, there are a lot of counterfeit ties floating around. Just because someone has has an isis tie, it doesn't prove they're the 'real deal.'

 

[Wyle_E_Coyote]

I kinda think his internalized homophobia resulted in such shame and humulation he was emotionally unable to actually have sex with a man.

What do you guys think about noone (I guess) indicating he sex with someone ??

One poster thought like who would admit to it - but if you think about it that would not like be ones fault.

He was not ugly or fat. It seems the only thing that has turned a lot off to him is how he behaved oddly.

A lot of gay men acknoledge that they are married and have kids when in a bar. We do not judge that, but feel sorry for thier inability to have ascknowledged who and what they are , and having to pretend to be hetero and marry while running around gay bars whenever they get away....

I'm sorry, I don't get this. If he were ashamed and humiliated, would he be in gay bars and using gay sex apps? And, yes, I think if there were hookups, at least one or two would have come forward... for $, for their 15 minutes, or simply out of horror and the need to talk about it.

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