FL - Mass Shooting at Pulse Nightclub, Orlando 12 June 2016 #4

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A Senate committee is asking the FBI to turn over its files on Orlando gunman Omar Mateen.

In a letter Wednesday to Attorney General Loretta Lynch, the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs asked the FBI to provide records related to two previously closed investigations concerning Mateen.

Of course, more at the link:
http://www.miamiherald.com/entertainment/celebrities/article83868897.html

The Senate Committee also sent a request letter to Facebook. Text of that letter can be found here:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/06/1...acebook-regarding-orlando-shooters-posts.html
 
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I think you Omar Mateen, were a coward, a big one.

jmo

RIP Pulse. RIP.
 
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Here is another link to a handwriting sample for those interested (from 2003 I think). It's an application for Indian River Community College. (Note the email he provided: [email protected], ugh)

http://mediaweb.wftv.com/document_dev/2016/06/16/Omar Mateen docs_4881885_ver1.0.pdf


My guess is that the "nice guy" (ugh) email address was part of the mask he wore for attracting potential mates online.

Note to online romance seekers: if they include "nice guy" in their monikers, they probably aren't.

I'm lousy at handwriting analysis, but I do see that sample is not as neat and tidy as some of his other samples. No idea what that might indicate, just an observation.
 
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Gunman Omar Mateen's Body Kept Apart From '49 Beautiful Souls'

"This is not a law or requirement, but was rather done out of respect for the victims and their families so that the shooter may never be near the 49 beautiful souls again," Orange County Chief Medical Examiner Dr. Joshua Stephany said in a statement on Thursday.

Toss his body in a dumpster, he murdered innocent people over and over he doesn't deserve to be buried on American soil. JMO
 
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Sorry I haven't been feeling up to par lately, and I didn't see the President's speech in Orlando. Did he ever state this was an attack of terrorism by the killer pledging his allegiance to ICIS?

Thanks
 
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I ♡ the Miami Herald.

The reason for Omar Mateen’s dismissal in 2007 from the Florida Department of Corrections remains a mystery — even to agency officials, who said Thursday they could not find an explanation for why he was fired midway through his training.

The reason is potentially significant because if it involved serious misconduct and documented in FDC’s files, it might have hindered Mateen’s future prospects of obtaining work as an armed security guard.

Public records released by the department also revealed that Mateen had been arrested in 2005 on battery charges. On his FDC application, he said he had been involved in a fight at Martin County High School when he was 14, that he was charged by the Martin County Sheriff’s Office and that adjudication was withheld so he was never criminally convicted.

“His employment was conditional that he complete certain criteria. Which one he failed, we cannot say,’’ said Alberto Moscoso, spokesman for the department.

Administrative dismissals cover a long list of infractions, ranging from failing a drug test to tardiness. It could also mean that Mateen simply wasn’t corrections officer material, said Matt Puckett, executive director of the Florida Police Benevolent Association — which represented the state’s corrections officers in 2006.

Much more here:
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/state/florida/article84150157.html#storylink=cpy
 
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My guess is that the "nice guy" (ugh) email address was part of the mask he wore for attracting potential mates online.

Note to online romance seekers: if they include "nice guy" in their monikers, they probably aren't.

I'm lousy at handwriting analysis, but I do see that sample is not as neat and tidy as some of his other samples. No idea what that might indicate, just an observation.

Might also just be one of those emails that teens make-up.
 
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Sorry I haven't been feeling up to par lately, and I didn't see the President's speech in Orlando. Did he ever state this was an attack of terrorism by the killer pledging his allegiance to ICIS?

Thanks

Now, if we're honest with ourselves, if, in fact, we want to show the best of our humanity, then we're all going to have to work together at every level of government, across political lines, to do more to stop killers who want to terrorize us. We will continue to be relentless against terrorist groups like ISIL and al-Qaida. We are going to destroy them. We are going to disrupt their networks, and their financing, and the flow of fighters in and out of war theaters. We're going to disrupt their propaganda that poisons so many minds around the world.

We're going to do all that. Our resolve is clear. But given the fact that the last two terrorist attacks on our soil — Orlando and San Bernardino — were homegrown, carried out it appears not by external plotters, not by vast networks or sophisticated cells, but by deranged individuals warped by the hateful propaganda that they had seen over the Internet, then we're going to have to do more to prevent these kinds of events from occurring.

Here in Orlando, we are reminded not only of our obligations as a country to be resolute against terrorists, we are reminded not only of the need for us to implement smarter policies to prevent mass shootings, we're also reminded of what unites us as Americans, and that what unites us is far stronger than the hate and the terror of those who target us.

So whatever the motivations of the killer, whatever influences led him down the path of violence and terror, whatever propaganda he was consuming from ISIL and al-Qaida, this was an act of terrorism but it was also an act of hate

http://www.tampabay.com/news/politi...ption-text-of-president-obamas-speech/2282016
 
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I've been popping in & out while keeping my distance from this thread for some personal reasons of my own, so I hope this hasn't already been posted. If it has, my apologies! This was brought to my attention tonight by a friend who is a member of the Aurora PD, so I thought I would share.

Aurora police: "We stand with the Orlando PD"
[video=youtu;w6IYYjmN0Ko]http://youtu.be/w6IYYjmN0Ko[/video]
 
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Sorry I haven't been feeling up to par lately, and I didn't see the President's speech in Orlando. Did he ever state this was an attack of terrorism by the killer pledging his allegiance to ICIS?

Thanks

You can listen to today's speech here:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2016/06/12/president-obama-tragic-shooting-orlando

That link also provides video of previous comments as well as some of the text from his comments on Orlando.

My recall is that the president has referred to the Orlando event as an act of terrorism from day one.

If you're looking for something specific that he said or did not say, your best bet, IMO, might be to look through the information at the link.
 
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The way I see it, our government is reactive instead of proactive. They wait until the person actually does something and then says yep he was a bad apple.

It's like shutting the barn door after the horse is already out.

I wasn't referring to the government.
 
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There was a guy who was at that training school with OM who was interviewed on TV. I did not listen to the interview very closely, but this guy was describing the day that OM was dumped. Something about OM came in his car and the officials of the school would not even allow him to get out of his car.

I would not know where to begin to go to find this interview. I almost always have CNN on, so I'm guessing the interview was on CNN. And I'd guess it was on Tuesday.
 
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Why we have not heard the 911 calls in spite of Florida's normally very open public information laws:

Two dozen media outlets have asked the Orlando Police Department for 911 calls and radio communications. The city will not release these communications.

An attorney for those outlets sent a letter to the city on Tuesday, explaining that the records should not be exempt from disclosure.

Florida has broad public records laws that normally allow for the release of these and other records.

Public officials are clearly violating the law, news leaders and open government experts said.

More at the link:

http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/crime/records-xyxyx-xyy-xyx-yx-yyyy/2281700
 
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Toss his body in a dumpster, he murdered innocent people over and over he doesn't deserve to be buried on American soil. JMO

You're right GeeEm, he doesn't deserve anything! But, that's not how we roll, and that's what separates us from these evil-doers.

MO ~
 
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I posted earlier about the interview with Mateen's ex wife and her current fiance. According to the fiance, the FBI told them not to tell any US media that Mateen was gay. I can't link atm but it's easy to find. Wtf. This isn't okay.
 
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Don't get why so much is being made of 'he can't be a terrorist because he doesn't know whether ISIS is Sunni or Shia and other excuses along the same vein. I'll bet there are a lot of possible terrorists out there who don't care about such fine theological parsing; all they are a bunch of disaffected hoodlums who want any excuse to destroy the West. Even when they have been literally nursed by that same West...

It is basicaaly cause I do not think he is a terrorist. Its not like I am all that -! its interesting dialog . Not looking for excuses, its putting it together , do not know, maybe cause therapist,is the sympthy not really. Sick dude

He could not be a terrorist - he wanted to, for dad. And if they ever tell us,only mo, I think the friendly fire numbers, if ever told, will blow us away. Too much testorine that night

probbly be covered up moo
 
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How would the average person know a language is Arabic?

So true, he was behaving IMO as bipolar is --manic== people tend to notice!!
 
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