FL - Mass Shooting at Pulse Nightclub, Orlando 12 June 2016 #4

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Not sure if this has been posted or not.

Chris Parenteau ‏@WJXTChris 1h1 hour ago
Documents sent to me by the Martin County School District show lengthy discipline history for Omar Mateen. Suspended 48 days from 1999-2001

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  • #422
Exactly, Hatfield.

Those in the world where radical Islamic extremists have openly declared war are fighting one of the worst wars than boots on the ground wars.

These monsters believe to die while murdering the infidels gives them more rewards. So how do we combat someone who's plan is already to die as a martyr? This type of formidable enemy doesn't care if they are killed as long as they can murder as many of us as they possibly can. These lone wolf terrorists are as deadly as ISIS and all of their members. Now they know that lone-wolves can do just as much damage collectively as the ones they support by giving them funds and supplying them with weapons. This way they don't even have to chatter back and forth anymore. The ISIS leader will put out a video telling these lone-wolves to attack as many infidels as they can like he did about the month of Ramadan and its working. We aren't dealing with a bunch of dummies because these leaders are very intelligent and always seem to be one jump ahead of us.

And of course we are bald faced lied to by our leader who says ISIS has been contained and severely damaged. :mad: Of course, like always, it wont take but a few days before that lie is exposed like it was yesterday by our CIA Director. For the life of me I have never understood why the federal government wishes to be so dismissive of Islamic terrorists attacks. The more we truly know about how powerful they still are the better. Knowledge is always better than being told constant lies.

Yes, some have been stopped and the last three Islamic terrorists fell through the cracks. Its those and I think they are in the hundreds or maybe even thousands that are already here and plotting to murder more of us that worries me the most and the FBI doesn't have a clue who they are.





Are these the guys that are contained and severely damaged ? Somebody might want to let them know they need to stand down then.

Local activists are reporting that ISIS publicly executed 19 Yazidi women in Mosul, Iraq, trapping them in cages and burning them to death after the women refused to have sex with ISIS fighters.

“The 19 girls were burned to death, while hundreds of people were watching,” a witness told ARA News.

http://nytlive.nytimes.com/womenint...fter-refusing-to-have-sex-with-isis-fighters/

These guys have nothing to do with religion OR ideology. They simply enjoy killing and creating mayhem for the hell of it. To me, they appear to be a bunch of sadistic serial killers run amok. There are plenty of videos on the internet that show unedited footage of them beheading, burning, drowning, dragging and executing people in what amounts to just "another day of business" for them. The U.S. media filters all of these videos, so the average person has no idea how deranged and sadistic these guys really are. I could give a link out to enable folks to view a huge library of these videos, but I imagine it would be deleted pretty quickly.

The only way to get rid of them is to exterminate them like the pests they are, post haste.
 
  • #423
It is basicaaly cause I do not think he is a terrorist. Its not like I am all that -! its interesting dialog . Not looking for excuses, its putting it together , do not know, maybe cause therapist,is the sympthy not really. Sick dude

He could not be a terrorist - he wanted to, for dad. And if they ever tell us,only mo, I think the friendly fire numbers, if ever told, will blow us away. Too much testorine that night

probbly be covered up moo

I think it is unfair to accuse the cops of killing a bunch of the victims and of having too much testosterone. It seems kind of rude, and unnecessary, in my opinion. :cow:
 
  • #424
Oceanblue....I do hear you but I can't see a solution to this. I suppose we could try to wipe out all self-identifying ISIS followers, but we can't destroy a death cult ideology. They can't be sequestered because of the internet. I just don't know a remedy. UGH. JMO
 
  • #425
He spoke arabic after he was told they did not have the level 3 bullet proof vest he wanted, then walked back and wanted bulk ammo (1000) rounds. I can not imagine being in a gun store and hearing a middle eastern man asking for a bullet proof vest get denied then make a call speaking in arabic then ask for 1000 rounds of 223 ammo and not bat an eye. jmo I would be in the parking lot writing down a tag #.jmo idk


Mateen came into the shop alone and asked for a “Level 3” bulletproof vest and then walked away for a second, speaking in Arabic on his cell phone, the store’s owner said.

http://nypost.com/2016/06/16/gun-shop-told-authorities-about-suspicious-mateen-before-slaughter/

When he came back, Mateen told the employee he also wanted bulk ammo, which usually comes in 1,000 rounds.

How did they know he was speaking Arabic? There are so many languages on earth.
 
  • #426
The only way to get rid of them is to exterminate them like the pests they are, post haste.

Snipped for focus & BBM.

And there's our remedy.
 
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How did they know he was speaking Arabic? There are so many languages on earth.

Does it matter whether he was speaking Arabic or Persian or Kurdish or some other Middle Eastern language? He was a Middle Eastern looking man, wanting to buy a bulletproof vest and bulk ammo and behaving suspiciously. The gun shop was right to report him, and the FBI should have taken their report seriously.
 
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I missed that but I did see another with store owner saying video had since been recorded over. Thanks

In re-watching that video he uses two words that are not present in discussions here 1, foreign language....not Arabic and 2. Says tape was lapped over meaning rerecorded as I originally alluded to.

ETA again, I see the use of the word grainy BUT that was what whoever wrote the article used from watching the video, gun store owner clearly states "lapped over" and there is a huge difference.

Hi bar!

A liitle confused what do you mean?
 
  • #431
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The real scary thing to me about these types of threats in the world today is the fact that these monsters don't seem to care if they get killed.

The common link to most of them is they go on a type of suicide mission. Whether they blow themselves up or expect to get shot by a cop the link is they don't care if they die. And that is the part that makes this threat today so unique and difficult to deal with.

I liken it to the Kamikaze attacks that occurred in WWII. Humans trying to cause as much destruction as possible and knowing they would likely die in the process. It was a new phenomenem that the military had to deal with.
Different in some ways but similar in some ways too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamikaze

And today that sort of threat has surfaced again with these monsters. Combatting it is very difficult but we must do everything possible to try to identify and stop anybody thinking of doing such a thing.

Which means to me that special measures must take place by homeland security, LE, FBI, governments, and all other countries too.
It is a world wide threat to humanity as we have seen these killings occur in many places throughout the world.

We do know a lot of them have been stopped but obviously so much more work has to be done to stop the next idiot who doesnt care about his life. Such selfish souls.

People are complaining about govt spying on people. All the info that has been collected.
 
  • #432
Does it matter whether he was speaking Arabic or Persian or Kurdish or some other Middle Eastern language? He was a Middle Eastern looking man, wanting to buy a bulletproof vest and bulk ammo and behaving suspiciously. The gun shop was right to report him, and the FBI should have taken their report seriously.

I have a friend who is of Pacific descent who travels to the US with a friend who looks white. We were laughing because my friend always gets extra scrutiny and the white looking guy gets none. I would lilke you to listen to some different languages such as taglog or Russian or Czech or Marquesan or on and on with a guy with dark skin and black hair and identify what land they are from.
 
  • #433
Can we place him in a septic somewhere? Better yet, feed him to some pigs. Didn't he threaten peaceful ppl at a BBQ over pork touching his burger? I refuse to read any more articles about him. He is no one. Nothing.

Sorry. I've been quiet but I need to release a little poison that's been building up inside.

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Hey, that would be cruel to pigs and septic tanks!
imo.
 
  • #434
I have a friend who is of Pacific descent who travels to the US with a friend who looks white. We were laughing because my friend always gets extra scrutiny and the white looking guy gets none. I would lilke you to listen to some different languages such as taglog or Russian or Czech or Marquesan or on and on with a guy with dark skin and black hair and identify what land they are from.

The point is, it doesn't matter what language he was speaking. The gun shop was right to report him. The FBI should take the report seriously.
 
  • #435
The point is, it doesn't matter what language he was speaking. The gun shop was right to report him. The FBI should take the report seriously.

Yet, there was no name, license plate, or a video. What exactly was FBI supposed to do with such information? And the suspicious person in the store didn't do anything illegal as far as I can tell.
 
  • #436
I really think his total motive was his hatred against the infidels even although technically he was one and his steadfast allegiance to violent Islamic terrorists whether ISIS or others. This was his pattern of hatred he had shown for many years before this happened. This is who he was and why this happened. All mass shooters have side issues and he is no different than most all of the rest.

I think he targeted the gay community because he knew it would please his father if he took out gay infidels. I still believe it was the father who constantly instilled the hatred Matee had against us and he soaked it up like a toxic sponge from a very early age and continued this hatred which only became stronger and stronger. He knew if he targeted this particular group of infidels he would be seen as a Martyr even more so by the radical Muslim extremists that also target gays and murdered them themselves. He knew it would bring his father more kudos from other extremists if he hit this particular group. I absolutely think his father was no different than one of the radical Imams who preaches hate and advocate violence. Imo, this hate was done on a daily basis inside of his home and even though I am sure he and his father had issues in the end most sons do want to please their fathers and get their approval. He also learned from his father that women are to be treated like dirt and violence comes to those who says something he didn't like.

His sole objective to me was to invoke terror in our entire country. Imo, there is no religion that has more fanatical extremist views, against not only anyone who does not believe exactly like they do, but their views on homosexuals are the most extreme when believing all gays deserve to be murdered with many middle eastern countries having laws that homosexuality is punishable by death.

I do not believe he is the only Muslim who goes to Mosques here that thinks the same way either. I think many Mosques right now led by fanatical Imams are preaching hate and violence against innocent others yet nothing seems to ever happen and they are left alone. Has there ever been a FBI raid on Mosques here in our country? Why was the Imam allowed to spew his hatred against gays saying they should be murdered just two weeks before this happened. If he was saying all those things and promoting violence against gays then why in the world wouldn't one of the members contact the FBI right away? Its that overwhelming silence that bothers me greatly but for some reason it just isn't seen as politically correct to even question Muslims or their Imams.

Political correctness is going to be the downfall of this country. Little by little it is eroding away the rights of American people and giving more rights to others which may certainly wish us great harm. We aren't suppose to profile Muslims but never mind when another terrorist attack happens in the name of religion it is the Muslim religion the terrorists believes in.

Until the FBI is not hamstrung by PC this will go on and on and on and on. Until Mosques can be infiltrated by undercover police agencies we will continue to have no clue who really hates us and is advocating violence against us within the walls of the Mosques here. It is only logical to think many Muslims here do agree with the issue of homosexuality and the punishment they believe it deserves. It was said that Matee was elated when other Islamic terrorists took the lives of our people but in the same turn it is only logical to believe that in some Mosques across our nation there were members also elated about what he did.:(

I think him being gay or bi-sexual is a only side issue and really isn't the reason but his fanatical Islamic beliefs is what put this all in motion. Imo, the side issue of him being gay takes away from the real reason he did this terrorist attack. Without his blind hatred of all infidels and his radical Muslim extremist views this mass shooting wouldn't have ever happened. He made it crystal clear to everyone why he did this and this is exactly what Islamic terrorists do.

I am sure that LE has infilitrated Mosques. Why wouldn't they?

For a radical Islamist, what is it that he followed of the religion? His wife wore no covering. He drank alcohol. He went to gay bars. Those are very big deviations from radical Islam. Those should not be too hard to follow. Harder is to love your neighbor as yourself or not hate.
 
  • #437
But, how? JMO

They could start by taking out the main headquarters and leaders in a ground attack. Afterwards, get hold of their files, both in hard copy and on computers. I guarantee you ISIS keeps paperwork and documentation on all of their recruits. With that information at hand, just about every single recruit could be tracked down, either in the middle east or back in their home country. If the U.S. would declare war on ISIS, they could send military troops in to wipe out the larger groups of fighters, and send assassination teams out to track down and eliminate the lone wolf recruits that are back in their own country, regardless of origin.

It would be a declared war........which means eliminate the enemy at all costs.
 
  • #438
Does it matter whether he was speaking Arabic or Persian or Kurdish or some other Middle Eastern language? He was a Middle Eastern looking man, wanting to buy a bulletproof vest and bulk ammo and behaving suspiciously. The gun shop was right to report him, and the FBI should have taken their report seriously.

We don't have any laws that say it's illegal for middle eastern men to buy guns or ammunition.
 
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How can one win, in a country where after 9/11 we were simultaneously urged to "tell what you know" yet admonished for profiling people. I mean at the very same time. Thats a lose-lose right there. Painted me as confused ever since.

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  • #440
They could start by taking out the main headquarters and leaders in a ground attack. Afterwards, get hold of their files, both in hard copy and on computers. I guarantee you ISIS keeps paperwork and documentation on all of their recruits. With that information at hand, just about every single recruit could be tracked down, either in the middle east or back in their home country. If the U.S. would declare war on ISIS, they could send military troops in to wipe out the larger groups of fighters, and send assassination teams out to track down and eliminate the lone wolf recruits that are back in their own country, regardless of origin.

It would be a declared war........which means eliminate the enemy at all costs.

There is nothing so far suggesting OM actually was a recruit or in contact with ISIS. Seem he was "inspired" by ISIS and other terrorist organizations.
 
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