GUILTY FL - Michael Davidson & Dustin Morter for rape of 17yo girl, Coconut Creek, 2004

  • #21
Kindo of like when you read of rapists that have a wife and kids at home thinking they are living the American Dream. Till daddy gets busted as a violent sex offender.
 
  • #22
mynikel said:
yeah i am consfused by their behavior but have you ever been in the situation where someone so close to you could do something like that,when you sat there on his couch and cried your eyes out to him because of what did happen to you and all he did was comfort you and tell you that your deserve better and no one deserves to be treated like that and all of a sudden he turns around and does the same thing. it is hard to beeive that.

Yes, my dear, I have been in that situation. Now do what I tell you...for your own good....get very far away from these people. Even if you think that there is no hope...do it. They will never protect you , they will always abuse you if not murder you. Now go. Find a large city with battered women centers for a respite. Use your geographical area and google it. You will find a job and as long as you don't give any clues to where you are, you should be OK. Start the next part of your life...that is worth living. Get away...don't be a statistic.
 
  • #23
And I might add, don't google it on your own computer, go to the public library and then google it. Be safe lady!
 
  • #24
mynikel said:
i understand that the only person to blame for a crime is who did it. but i beleive things happen for a reason and there apperently was a reason for this to have happened. I am not putting total blame on the girl but come on have some sense in what is right and wrong.

She refused to have sex with them, so they raped and beat her, then left her for dead. How can you put any of the blame on this poor woman?
 
  • #25
mynikel said:
yeah i am consfused by their behavior but have you ever been in the situation where someone so close to you could do something like that,when you sat there on his couch and cried your eyes out to him because of what did happen to you and all he did was comfort you and tell you that your deserve better and no one deserves to be treated like that and all of a sudden he turns around and does the same thing. it is hard to beeive that.

Wow, I just read this post. I know it's easy for me to say, but you need to get away now...before you become a statistic.
 
  • #26
luvbeaches said:
Wow, I just read this post. I know it's easy for me to say, but you need to get away now...before you become a statistic.
Why should you run away from the things that happen to you. Things like this only make you stronger. I know that I will never let a guy treat me that way ever again and I know that I need to watch out for myslef because not everyone else will. I understand that what I said in earleir posts were not exactly nice but it is just so hard to realize that they could have done it. And I guess because i have been in that girls same situation I feel and think that you shouldn't be that stupid to do the things she did.
 
  • #27
As you said in your post you lost a part of you, she didn't lose her life. As a victim I disagree with you she did lose her life that she knew. She know has to live her life with the reality of what happened to her and what she will have to go through to make a new life for herself. At no point in a victims life are they responsible for being a crime victim.
Jan
 
  • #28
mynikel said:
Why should you run away from the things that happen to you. Things like this only make you stronger. I know that I will never let a guy treat me that way ever again and I know that I need to watch out for myslef because not everyone else will. I understand that what I said in earleir posts were not exactly nice but it is just so hard to realize that they could have done it. And I guess because i have been in that girls same situation I feel and think that you shouldn't be that stupid to do the things she did.

If you are in an abusive relationship, I said you should get out. It's not running. It's being smart, and could possibly save your life.

She's the victim in this case. What she did is not relevant. So you are saying because she did "stupid" things, she in some way deserved what happened to her? That's like saying if you wear a mini-skirt, and attract the attention of a guy, you deserve to be raped.
 
  • #29
mynikel said:
Why should you run away from the things that happen to you. Things like this only make you stronger. I know that I will never let a guy treat me that way ever again and I know that I need to watch out for myslef because not everyone else will. I understand that what I said in earleir posts were not exactly nice but it is just so hard to realize that they could have done it. And I guess because i have been in that girls same situation I feel and think that you shouldn't be that stupid to do the things she did.

I'm sorry to hear about what you went through.:( MY questions are:
Early in your relationship with the wicked man that beat you, would you
have believed he would have beat you thus?

And...

How well do you really know this Dustin character?

I was raped at age 17. Yes, I was stupid: I went into his father's
empty work building (sorry, if I mention it exactly I'll give my
real self away.). He was sweetness itself prior. Always sat & talked with me
at school, etc. and he was quite "cute". (So I thought at first.)
Needless to say, I had a bit of a crush on him. AND yes, I was
ignorant and naive: I thought I could trust him. Well, he raped me
in the basement of that building.

I avoided him like the plague after that, but one day he caught me
alone and assualted me. Also told me that his friend was in there
and they took pictures. Sick. Sure hope it's not true.

My rapist? No one would've ever thought that he could do such a thing.
 
  • #30
I wonder what two towns just northwest of StL they were caught in. Anyone know?
 
  • #31
The towns were maryland heights and one close to there.
 
  • #32
ariel7 said:
I'm sorry to hear about what you went through.:( MY questions are:
Early in your relationship with the wicked man that beat you, would you
have believed he would have beat you thus?

And...

How well do you really know this Dustin character?

I was raped at age 17. Yes, I was stupid: I went into his father's
empty work building (sorry, if I mention it exactly I'll give my
real self away.). He was sweetness itself prior. Always sat & talked with me
at school, etc. and he was quite "cute". (So I thought at first.)
Needless to say, I had a bit of a crush on him. AND yes, I was
ignorant and naive: I thought I could trust him. Well, he raped me
in the basement of that building.

I avoided him like the plague after that, but one day he caught me
alone and assualted me. Also told me that his friend was in there
and they took pictures. Sick. Sure hope it's not true.

My rapist? No one would've ever thought that he could do such a thing.
all the things that my ex did to me happened all at once. one day he just snapped and i got away then. I never saw it coming. As with dustin, I knew him for a while. Not once would I have even imagined he could do something like this. I spent every free minute that i had with him, I told him no many times when he asked me to have sex, he never forced anything on to me nor did he ever use violence towards me. and there were plenty of times when we were both drunk and had many fights. and to this day i was never scared that he would hurt me and i still don't beleive that he would hurt me.
 
  • #33
mynikel said:
all the things that my ex did to me happened all at once. one day he just snapped and i got away then. I never saw it coming. As with dustin, I knew him for a while. Not once would I have even imagined he could do something like this. I spent every free minute that i had with him, I told him no many times when he asked me to have sex, he never forced anything on to me nor did he ever use violence towards me. and there were plenty of times when we were both drunk and had many fights. and to this day i was never scared that he would hurt me and i still don't beleive that he would hurt me.

Hi Mynikel,

I'm so glad you did get away from your ex, and so sorry for what you went
through with him(especially to lose your precious baby:(---wish there
was a smiley for 'hugs').

Sounds like the Dustin you knew seemed quite a different person from
this Dustin. Perhaps things have changed with him since then, or since
hooking up with this Michael character...maybe something just set them
off (not excusing evil, inexcusible, criminal behavior here).
I couldn't say. The story seems very credible, and I'm sure they
couldn't arrest them on just somebody's word that they were at the bar.

It does though sound like he had a great deal of repect for you;
I'm sorry for your sake that this had to happen.

If the charges against them are false, I do hope it would come out soon.
I couldn't imagine being falsely accused for anything. As it stands
now, it certainly doesn't bode well for them. AND if they did commit
this crime, they certainly should be appropriately punished.

Ariel :)

Ps-O/T O/T O/T (Sorry:o) To my shame: I never reported the guy who assaulted me. I was too
worried nobody would believe me (for I was a bit wild then), and
I didn't want my boyfriend to know. 16 years later
I wish I had the courage to go to the police. Not to avenge myself
or something of that sort (I have long since forgiven him.) rather to
protect others. Every once in a while I do an internet search for this
guy...hoping never to have his name come up in any crime news, but
worried he may have hurt someone else. Part of me would
feel responsible
if he did.
 
  • #34
concernedperson said:
Yes, my dear, I have been in that situation. Now do what I tell you...for your own good....get very far away from these people. Even if you think that there is no hope...do it. They will never protect you , they will always abuse you if not murder you. Now go. Find a large city with battered women centers for a respite. Use your geographical area and google it. You will find a job and as long as you don't give any clues to where you are, you should be OK. Start the next part of your life...that is worth living. Get away...don't be a statistic.

What great advice! I'm hoping there may be some reading this thread who
are helped by it. :)
 
  • #35
ariel7 said:
Hi Mynikel,

I'm so glad you did get away from your ex, and so sorry for what you went
through with him(especially to lose your precious baby:(---wish there
was a smiley for 'hugs').

Sounds like the Dustin you knew seemed quite a different person from
this Dustin. Perhaps things have changed with him since then, or since
hooking up with this Michael character...maybe something just set them
off (not excusing evil, inexcusible, criminal behavior here).
I couldn't say. The story seems very credible, and I'm sure they
couldn't arrest them on just somebody's word that they were at the bar.

It does though sound like he had a great deal of repect for you;
I'm sorry for your sake that this had to happen.

If the charges against them are false, I do hope it would come out soon.
I couldn't imagine being falsely accused for anything. As it stands
now, it certainly doesn't bode well for them. AND if they did commit
this crime, they certainly should be appropriately punished.

Ariel :)

Ps-O/T O/T O/T (Sorry:o) To my shame: I never reported the guy who assaulted me. I was too
worried nobody would believe me (for I was a bit wild then), and
I didn't want my boyfriend to know. 16 years later
I wish I had the courage to go to the police. Not to avenge myself
or something of that sort (I have long since forgiven him.) rather to
protect others. Every once in a while I do an internet search for this
guy...hoping never to have his name come up in any crime news, but
worried he may have hurt someone else. Part of me would
feel responsible
if he did.
Me and dustin dated not to long ago and we hung out with mike then. this is just not like their behavior at all. I am just shocked. What bothers me is i can't find ot any information that is dated after december 22, 2004. I mean, I talked to him on the phone that night and listened to him tell me that he missed me, around the time the whole thing took place, then i went to his house the next day, and i hate to say it but slept with him, and things don't look good with that, if you know what i mean....
 
  • #36
mynikel said:
Me and dustin dated not to long ago and we hung out with mike then. this is just not like their behavior at all. I am just shocked. What bothers me is i can't find ot any information that is dated after december 22, 2004. I mean, I talked to him on the phone that night and listened to him tell me that he missed me, around the time the whole thing took place, then i went to his house the next day, and i hate to say it but slept with him, and things don't look good with that, if you know what i mean....

:confused:
Oh my goodness, if you mean what I think you mean then PLEASE,
please be careful. I guess maybe you don't need someone to tell
you that with your previous horrible experience, but please do.

Sadly, I think it is likely that he is not the man you thought him to be.
In any case, have you been in contact with the authorities or
Dustin? ( Not that it's any of my business, anyway...)

Well, I'd best get going; please take care. :)

Ariel7
 
  • #37
no I haven't been able to find out how to talk to anyone. I live in missouri, and all i know is that they were extridited to florida and haven't heard anything since then. I don't know where to look or who to call. I can't even think. I just want to talk to him again. I don't even know what I would say, I know I want to know if it is true. and If what I think is happening to me, what he thinks about the whole situation and how to tell my parents that my baby's dad is in jail for nearly killing a girl.
 
  • #38
mynikel said:
no I haven't been able to find out how to talk to anyone. I live in missouri, and all i know is that they were extridited to florida and haven't heard anything since then. I don't know where to look or who to call. I can't even think. I just want to talk to him again. I don't even know what I would say, I know I want to know if it is true. and If what I think is happening to me, what he thinks about the whole situation and how to tell my parents that my baby's dad is in jail for nearly killing a girl.

Hi Mynikel,

I have a link for you from Coconut Creek PD...at the end is an officer's
number to call for more information.

http://www.creekgov.net/archives/000450.asp

I hope this might help you out.

Please take good care of yourself (and baby). I am praying for you.

God bless and keep you safe,

Ariel7
 
  • #39
thanks i will try there.
 
  • #40
k, I chickened out. I am too scared to make the call. does anyone have any updated information on this
 

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