Caution --somewhat all over the place!!!
Know what just struck me? IF he was really hanging with his buds that day (I dont know why I just do not think they were at Duffies - that was not "bought up" for several days).
The intial stuff he was with dad in the media. Then from mom call to 911 mentioned daughter there. BUT she said something I have contacted several of his friends. Why would you need to "contact" them if they were sitting there - theywould know more than you.
And in the beginning we all commented on how hard could it have been for the "friends" to go after him. If you think about it in group dynamic way - it would make much more sense for peers to go after their friend follwing watching a father/son fight.
What the peers are gonna stay in the restaurant with dad? How uncomfotable is that? If the same thing happened and I was there, after my friend walked out I would say something , to dad, something like "let me go talk to him". For two reasons, too find out whats up with my friend, AND to seperate from my firends dad. What exactrly are my friends dad and I gonna chat about after a scene like that?
Drinking druggin tend not to be "solo" activites. So I would think if theywere hanging out earlier, and it does come back a designer drug those friedns who were with him that day might have been high themseves, were with him when the drugs were bought .
Sooooo that would explain why "supposedly" the friends could not find him when they went out "looking" I wonder if that actually translates to too high to do mcuh other than be high!
Collage kids- if they in fact knew he got/did some drugs together it would be pretty wise to stay as far away from the event (which they have - media) because they might know a lot...............................
The other guys friend came clean, cooperated, that can be looked at two ways IMO. Think about it I cannot get arrested if I am drinking with you (not illigal) and you get into trouble. ath salts and flakka are not illigal if they changed a molecule . That is why I think he (friend in other incident) was not charged - and they say they are waiting , in that case also , for the results.
If it comes back that what those guys (other case) bought has not been made illigal yet they have nothing to charge his friend with - he broke no laws!
I think we all are veiwing the drugs as illigal! If they change the molecule it is not if I am understanding this correctly - am I?
From inital screening we know he was not drinking which does "fit" with the few peers who had spoken that he did not drink. IIRC , only one peer ,thus far, has shared that he got into some things, when he started FSU, that he "should not have".
I am puzzled somewhat that noone wants to know where he was living last semester, which could have implications in terms of envirment he was exposed to last semester.
Do any of us know where he lived? They have said not in the dorm like he"once" did, and not in the frat house (which also can be percieved as he really was not all that connected with the frat guys).
Have no clue if it is typical not to live in the frat house your in, but would assume that is a big part of the "male" bonding (relentless chat about girls, who hooked up (hate that term- getting hooked up, to old little me sounds entangled!)
We know the other guy lived with his sister, we know James Holmes lived in an apt. We know Roger Elliot lived in an apt. We know where Omar lived, we know where Virgina Tech dude lived. We know where Lanza lived. We know where San Bern guys lived. We know where Nice truck guy lived. We know where Dallas shooter lived. It is just part of the story.
How come we do not know where he was living last semester. All that has been said is "with" mom. And maybe since they all referred to him acting strangly "the last two weeks" we got it blurred that he had only been there "two weeks", when in fact , if thinking about it , he probably was with mom formonths - Starting to wonder if he took a semester off, with the deal being he would bulk up and return , and dad just found out he wanted another semester off - just speculating- he had to be somewhere for a semester!
You Tube channel started 5 months before the event. would that not correlate to spring break - maybe he was out longer than just the summer, being around family triggered stuff for him.
guesses all...................