FL - Michelle Mishcon, 53, & John Stevens, 59, murdered, Tequesta, 15 Aug 2016 - #1

[CARIIS]

Starting to wonder if he just started using bath or flakka to be able to work out an intense amount . If he had just quit steroids maybe subsitude?

Users:



[FONT=&quot]"I loved the feeling, I was instantly ready to go into everything and felt like I did with my previous methylphenidate come-up." ..... I would begin working on my daily errand, and just blow through the first 1 -2 hours, and then spend the next 7-8 feeling completely hopeless, unhappy, and incoherent…So by day 10, I was redosing every 2 hours just to maintain myself............[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]"After breathing out the first 4 mg hit I immediately feel strong rush. It started with tingling and shivering over the body. ..... limbs were moving involuntary in delightful manner. Rush lasted about 10 minutes and left me with racing thoughts and strong compulsion to redose."[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]"It dissolved rather quickly, numbing my tongue in a fashion similar to cocaine but with diminished potency..........[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]"She told us she didn't feel much of anything the first 15 minutes. Then a slow and subtle force of productivity and energy began to take hold of her. .......... Her brain was firing on 800 cylinders! She felt like a genius and started to handle some of the chore things around the house [/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot].... little more euphoria and slight sexual urges but nowhere near MDPV, and the rapid heart rate was so bad I couldn't enjoy the little positive effects this drug has."[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]"I went from being responsible and happy, to a strung out mess CHEWING HOLES in my tongue, and getting severe facial ticks."[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]"The stuff lasts for quite some time...The only problem is that the high of it, the productive, brain cells firing on all cylinders, everything is awesome phase beings to die after 2-2.5 or so hours and then one is left with a still racing heart ...........and dehydration."

http://www.ibtimes.com/flakka-users-review-their-experiences-erowid-yelp-drugs-1963391[/FONT]
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[Curious Me]

Hey GeeEm, I'm the one who posted that, not glf. Don't you go dissing me or I'll have to attack you with a can of air freshner. :snooty:

 

[GeeEm]

Ty for all your info!! I think the garage areas look alike not the house!!!! There is no where to sit on the one couch!!

((CARIIS))

Thank you so much for the videos of AH! In all honesty he looks like the typical growing up teenager/man. I couldn't figure what he had around his face on the "Let it Be" video, but I must say if he wasn't acting so stupid, he could halfway sing, nothing like John Lennon of course, but I was shocked. I keep noticing he has a 'habit' of showing his teeth alot, and jmo it has alot to do with his dad being a dentist! So strange, my niece, came into visit, and she had her braces removed and she kept "showing her teeth". I don't know, have no answers to that.

I just feel like he was the average american boy with no history of mental illness, just acting stupid on the videos!

Again, I am leaning towards caustic substances!

Thanks ~

jmo :moo:

 

[GeeEm]

Hey GeeEm, I'm the one who posted that, not glf. Don't you go dissing me or I'll have to attack you with a can of air freshner. :snooty:

ROFL, I just busted a gut! :lol:

I just had read a post from glf, lordy! I've gone crazy! LOL(still laughing)

I really do like you too Curious Me :loveyou:

Oh dear me! lol

 

[CARIIS]

((CARIIS))

Thank you so much for the videos of AH! In all honesty he looks like the typical growing up teenager/man. I couldn't figure what he had around his face on the "Let it Be" video, but I must say if he wasn't acting so stupid, he could halfway sing, nothing like John Lennon of course, but I was shocked. I keep noticing he has a 'habit' of showing his teeth alot, and jmo it has alot to do with his dad being a dentist! So strange, my niece, came into visit, and she had her braces removed and she kept "showing her teeth". I don't know, have no answers to that.

I just feel like he was the average american boy with no history of mental illness, just acting stupid on the videos!

Again, I am leaning towards caustic substances!

Thanks ~

jmo :moo:

At this point I am at mental illiness primary. the videos are wildly different over time , which leads me too mood swings in conjunction with , at times, not making sense but can at times get some traction on thinking patterns

That kind of fluncuation I would guess one would not experiece on a drug just injusted- that make andforth. bad stuff or took to much moo

I think lasts semesters repot might indicade failure receny

 

[Curious Me]

Reading those comments from bath salt and flakka users makes me worried about the future of these people.

One of the comments from the CARIIS post from the users:

...Her brain was firing on 800 cylinders! She felt like a genius and started to handle some of the chore things around the house.

At least, she didn't turn into a snarling dog that time. Yeah, she got some housework done feeling like a genius. What an successful accomplishment. Could've turned into a chicken, but you were lucky, Girl. :hen:

 

[glf]

Oh dear ninij9, I'm sorry, I couldn't help but bring it up. It's that bug's fault for trying to hijack this thread! The messy pop...exactly. The people on this thread are experts on this subject. You must be quick with a coffee mug. Creeped me out, it walked around like it owned the place. Like it wanted to be the house pet. Maybe it left? I actually told it to leave last night and told it there was water on the balcony.

No more grossing you all out. I'll just tell you when the battle is over. :giggle:

My son dropped a San Antonio phone book on one, and he said it didn't even phase the bug!

 

[glf]

Hey GeeEm, I'm the one who posted that, not glf. Don't you go dissing me or I'll have to attack you with a can of air freshner. :snooty:

Watch it, I will attach everybody with my shaving cream!

 

[glf]

((CARIIS))

Thank you so much for the videos of AH! In all honesty he looks like the typical growing up teenager/man. I couldn't figure what he had around his face on the "Let it Be" video, but I must say if he wasn't acting so stupid, he could halfway sing, nothing like John Lennon of course, but I was shocked. I keep noticing he has a 'habit' of showing his teeth alot, and jmo it has alot to do with his dad being a dentist! So strange, my niece, came into visit, and she had her braces removed and she kept "showing her teeth". I don't know, have no answers to that.

I just feel like he was the average american boy with no history of mental illness, just acting stupid on the videos!

Again, I am leaning towards caustic substances!

Thanks ~

jmo :moo:

I got my braces off just before 8th grade school year started! I think I called everybody I knew, or rode my bike to their house, smiling.

 

[glf]

I'm almost certain he has alot of soft tissue burning and possibly irreversible damage from his lips to his stomach. Things start to heal, and he'll most likely have alot of scar tissue. And that's just the physical part. I'm wondering about brain damage.

 

[Curious Me]

Just my own thoughts with no conclusions--

Not as quiet or as much a loner as maybe we imagine. Acts kinda dorky sometimes in the videos, sometimes silly, sometimes wanna-be gangsta, playing with being street smart, sometimes acts like the authority, a guru of body science, but definitely seems to have mood swings, and seems depressed when talking about not doing steroids. Used to be gentle giant. Lots of people surprised he did it, this is not who they knew last year. Then, some statement from frat boy or friend that he did get into something different...a drug? Weight fluctuations, sudden bulk. Don't forget those steroid videos. Neighbor reported he had friends over in his father's backyard, partying I guess, and that he acted rowdy and aggressive. Screaming fights with the father in the front of the house said another neighbor. Possibility he had father issues and felt helpless rage with the way Dad treated him? Could have been failing at school or unable to maintain "Arnold greatness" without doing steroids. Then, killed the bird with the hand gun two weeks before. Also, Mother said he completely changed two weeks ago. He knows now he's got two sides and one is psycho. Chemically imbalanced now trying to not take steroids? Whatever, it's escalating. Everybody is on his case, but nobody notices he's lost his mind and nobody takes him to get help. There's still time to stop this, if only... Psychotic break, somewhat mentally ill, but I see a strong possibility of roid rage, or a drug, or some chemical connected to what led up to the murderous attacks.

...two people gone now.......but no conclusions.....don't really know...........fftobed:

 

[Curious Me]

Watch it, I will attach everybody with my shaving cream!

:lol: Just get the bug!

 

[GeeEm]

We're all cheering for you as you bike backwards, Inthedetails.

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.....................................:back:

Inthedetails!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


You caught up with all of us yet?

We are still rooting for you!! Go girl go! :drumroll:

Gotta get your input on this bizarre crazed case :gathering:



Ok everyone, have a good night/morning I'm off to sleepy time :bed:

We shall pick this up again! :discuss:

 

[Jax49]

From an older article:
www.miaminewtimes.com/news/woman-killed-in-face-eating-attack-was-daughter-of-former-north-miami-beach-mayor-8695034

According to the Palm Beach Post, Mishcon worked in finance in Boca Raton. Her husband, John, was the son of a former pro baseball player, and the pair had recently celebrated their 19th wedding anniversary.

http://www.bradenton.com/news/state/florida/article96347787.html

I can't imagine the grief their families are experiencing.

RIP: Michelle and John Stevens

 

[LolaMoon08]

Still waiting on the toxicology tests.

 

[jjenny]

I'm almost certain he has alot of soft tissue burning and possibly irreversible damage from his lips to his stomach. Things start to heal, and he'll most likely have alot of scar tissue. And that's just the physical part. I'm wondering about brain damage.

Well, it's not like his brain was working perfectly well even before all of this.

 

[ninij9]

Good morning. I agree with the poster that said AH had a half decent singing voice. I don't buy that he was "totally" normal prior to this, there is a level of social awkwardness to his videos that make me feel he has always been a little "odd". He reminds me so much of Spencer from that MTV reality show "The Hills". Remember that show? No matter how he spoke he always appeared a bit off.

O/T: re bugs. Sometimes I hear a girlish scream come from upstairs, followed by the distinct stink of Axe body spray. So according to my 16 year old son, that horrid teen body scent also works for killing bugs, and fortunately doesn't work as advertised because I've yet to see a gaggle of teen females climbing the side of my house in response to his bug spraying finesse.

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[Latestforever]

Here is an interesting article from early this am about another attack involving super strength in the same area, new bath salt called Methylone. He even had to be intubated....

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.ib...ounty-cannibal-killings-1578482?client=safari

 

[glf]

Well, it's not like his brain was working perfectly well even before all of this.

True, but now it's probably partially fried, along with emotional problems. That could make things even worse!

 

[Jax49]

Here is an interesting article from early this am about another attack involving super strength in the same area, new bath salt called Methylone. He even had to be intubated....

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.ib...ounty-cannibal-killings-1578482?client=safari

Thanks for posting that. Someone linked a short article about that attack last night. Scary stuff, so much so I got up and moved my revolver closer.