FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #11

[tehcloser]

I hate the weekends......it seems like nothing ever happens.

 

[wenwe4]

Divers search 2 areas yesterday as they had information that led them there according to report.

video @ link

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/45622911#45622911

 

[NSS]

I see what you are saying but let me throw this out there. First if Michelle told Dale that she was going shopping wouldn't have made more sense for the text response to her brother to say "shopping" or "shopping in Waterford"? Also, what if Michelle lied to Dale about were she was going? I mean what if Dale asked her "hey where you going now or what are you doing later"? and she figured it was none of his business especially since she had a dinner date. We don't really know the context of the conversation so maybe she thought he was being nibby or maybe she's the one who volunteered the info?

I can imagine she said --- shopping (she wasn't being honest but it's kinder than saying -- off with the new b/f).

I can also imagine DS checked her texts, and an earlier one suggested shoe shopping with her Mom.

I can also understand how DS would text 'waterford' as a response, because the only info he had was that above.

If Michelle has sent the text, she'd already know that she wasn't going shopping but was headed home, and may have detoured to rescue her brother.

The Waterford text isn't to throw suspicion of where the victim was, but was where the perpetrator THOUGHT she should be.

 

[tehcloser]

er, um, I'm not a mod or nuttin' but DANGER, we cannot dis our fellow posters. TOS. Just sayin', for all the newbies.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

I thought you noticed it because you did have an avid interest in cars..
now you don't know why you noticed it.something was telling you to pay attention? It is strange..^i^

Wow. I find it very interesting that most people on here don't want to hear anything that doesn't point directly to DS. Very interesting. I am not saying he did not do it or may not have been involved, but I for one would like to hear all the facts, all the leads and all the possibilities. No wonder they have such a hard time finding a jury that doesn't have preconceived judgement on high profile cases. I would never ever accuse someone of something such as murder without having all the facts. The only hard facts I have heard is MP dropped the kids off, MP went missing, MP's vehicle and phone were found and there was a text to her bro saying 'Waterford" and a ping somewhere else and then the phone powered off at 8pm.

All else is not FACT but is speculation. I can speculate with everyone else but I would never accuse someone of something such as murder without FACT. Even a character with a sordid past like DS. Sorry.

 

[Frankie Hellis]

Even after 11/18 LE was still saying he wasn't even a person of interest so I'm really wondering why they went back on 11/18 (assuming they were there both times)

And something significant had to happen between then and the weekend they raided DSsr's house. Then, shortly after DSjr is named primary suspect.

I really am curious what they discovered in between those dates. Whatever it is, they sure have kept a tight lid on it.

I thought LE usually claimed a person was "not a person of interest" so said person did not become suspicious of being suspected and "lawyer up." So, even though LE claims someone is not a person of interest does not really mean the person is not possibly suspected.

Once someone is outright named a suspect it is assumed s/he will lawyer up and all possible cooperation will cease.

AFAIK the positive side to naming a person an official suspect is to have access to other legal tools (such as search warrants) but LE tries not to name someone an official suspect until it is necessary.

 

[Darcyline]

For the record, I never fully trust sightings like these. That goes for all sightings across the spectrum of pretty much every case. Now, later developments may make me trust a sighting, but I usually categorize them under the category of rumors or unsubstantiated until some sort of firm evidence or a court case occurs where the person is called.
To explain myself further, I just do not trust the human eye or mind. Every case has tons of sightings. There are probably tons for Michelle that we do not even know about. The mind plays tricks in many ways. Suddenly every bald baby becomes Baby Lisa or every blonde college girl becomes Lauren. It does not mean the person is lying or making it up. It just means that sometimes eyes and brains can trick us in a lot of different ways. I know this is a somewhat strange position and a lot of sightings are added as pure fact to cases or considered as such. That is ok, but I still think I am going to place them in the maybe pile as opposed to certain pile.
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[Jazzmaster]

Wow. I find it very interesting that most people on here don't want to hear anything that doesn't point directly to DS. Very interesting. I am not saying he did not do it or may not have been involved, but I for one would like to hear all the facts, all the leads and all the possibilities. No wonder they have such a hard time finding a jury that doesn't have preconceived judgement on high profile cases. I would never ever accuse someone of something such as murder without having all the facts. The only hard facts I have heard is MP dropped the kids off, MP went missing, MP's vehicle and phone were found and there was a text to her bro saying 'Waterford" and a ping somewhere else and then the phone powered off at 8pm.

All else is not FACT but is speculation. I can speculate with everyone else but I would never accuse someone of something such as murder without FACT. Even a character with a sordid past like DS. Sorry.

I disagree. For the sake of the kids I would LOVE to hear a plausible scenario that doesn't implicate Dale. I do not care about his "checkered" past. Past is the past. The kids NEED a father. He could be a changed man for all I know. That has nothing to do with my "suspicion" that he is involved. If there were more evidence in his defense I would certainly look at possibilities. None of the theories presented thus far seem at all likely. Not that they couldn't have happened, just that it is very unlikely to have occurred.

Look, the period where she was missing was most likely between 3:18-3:45. Who had access, motive, and ability to carry this out? There is only one person (with potential accomplices) that all evidence is pointing back to. Unless credible evidence is presented to the contrary, most of us here (with the police agreeing with us) believe that Dale is the ONLY SUSPECT to be focusing on...

 

[Darcyline]

Oops, I must be confused about the rules. So, if someone from the area posts about something having to do about the case first hand we aren't supposed to discuss it? Sorry-won't happen again!!! It gets sort of tricky in some cases, I guess.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

So in many people's minds this is a case of guilty until proven innocent?

 

[Darcyline]

For me it isn't guilty until proven innocent so much as in any case you have to narrow down what might have happened. A lot of cases are solved by someone considering who could have done this? Who would have wanted to do this? If LE was not allowed to ask those questions many, many, many cases would go unsolved. It doesn't mean the answer to those questions is automatically convicted. It is just a place to start gathering evidence.

 

[KKazoo87]

I was throwing ideas around in an attempt to clarify if I was mistaken or not. My passenger and I have discussed this several times since then and we keep coming back to it had to be the 408 and Alafaya Trail.

the main thing isn't what we may have seen or haven't seen. If the toll road recorded her vehicle on it at around the time my passenger said we seen it. That's all the proof anyone needs to clarify that the Hummer was indeed there and that's completely independent of any testimony. It'd be real hard to argue that her epass/sunpass logged a toll charge on a road she wasn't supposed to be on, don't you think?

Third time I have lost my reply..it gets worse every time :banghead:.

I personally think the main thing is exactly what you may or may not have seen. If her hummer was on that road, at that time, it adds another piece to an already confusing puzzle. I was asking for my own clarification because I could remember your earlier posts about the subject. I also think it would be very hard to argue that her hummer wasn't there if that toll is logged on her sun/e-pass. However, at this time, we don't know if it was logged on that road or not. So I personally feel that it is still up for debate. We all have the common interest of wanting Michelle found and bringing her home and I think all of us are trying to work with what we have, in the best way that we can. I'm sorry if you felt I was questioning your sighting altogether, that was not my intention.

 

[RabidBadger]

So in many people's minds this is a case of guilty until proven innocent?

This seems like a statement meant to deliberately incite non-constructive argument.

 

[Sparky]

Wow. I find it very interesting that most people on here don't want to hear anything that doesn't point directly to DS. Very interesting. I am not saying he did not do it or may not have been involved, but I for one would like to hear all the facts, all the leads and all the possibilities. No wonder they have such a hard time finding a jury that doesn't have preconceived judgement on high profile cases. I would never ever accuse someone of something such as murder without having all the facts. The only hard facts I have heard is MP dropped the kids off, MP went missing, MP's vehicle and phone were found and there was a text to her bro saying 'Waterford" and a ping somewhere else and then the phone powered off at 8pm.

All else is not FACT but is speculation. I can speculate with everyone else but I would never accuse someone of something such as murder without FACT. Even a character with a sordid past like DS. Sorry.

I'd like to hear what you think happened to Michelle and who might be involved.

 

[my_tee_mouse]

Well, I do have a witness that can back up my claim and I can obtain evidence that shows I was at the 408 & Alafaya Trail around the time I say I was...

As for the Smith Family and the Parker family I no neither of them and You couldn't get me to tell a lie if you paid me a billion dollars.

I'm just saying there must be another possibility because she can't be at the 408 & Alafaya at 4pm if she's being murder at DS Jr home 30 minutes earlier.

The only reason I say she would have taken the 417 is because that is the single quickest route she could take to get home.... Even I admit I don't understand why she'd be off on the 408 that's clearly out of the way of someone trying to get back towards Ovideo/Geneva/Sanford in the shortest time possible.

Ironhorse, are you absolutely positive you spotted the Hummer on the day Michelle went missing? It wasn't the day before? And I'm sorry if you've addressed this and I missed it, but is this a route you travel often, i.e. would that particular day stand out in your mind because you don't go that route on a daily basis? Does that make sense?

 

[Darcyline]

It is extraordinary hard for me to avoid discussing so for now I will just say WHERE IS MICHELLE????
I cannot believe we still haven't found her

 

[Wild@Heart]

So in many people's minds this is a case of guilty until proven innocent?

I have had a suspicious mind (like the lyrics of Elvis singing Suspicious Minds) since the news of the case started, that her ex was involved. That's always the first thought. Under the circumstances regarding her disappearance I think everyone had the same suspicion. Could I convict for murder with the information I (we) have been presented with? Absolutely NOT! Do I need details regarding discovery? Yep! But until I get more verifiable proof of guilt, all my mind can do is speculate what happened and who was responsible. I hope it wasn't Dale, for the sake of those children. My mind keeps going back to him even though I wish it didn't.

 

[BritsKate]

I hate the weekends......it seems like nothing ever happens.

Uh huh. Nap time, teh, nap time.

In fact, power nap! We've got a whole lot of cases needing resolution.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

This seems like a statement meant to deliberately incite non-constructive argument.

It's really not. I am just bothered by the fact that so many are so sure that DS murdered MP. I just don't understand how they can be so sure with so little facts at this point. WE DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT SHE WAS MURDERED. And once again I will state that I am not a DS supporter in any way. I believe it's absolutely possible that he had something to do with her disappearance. But at this point I am not prepared to call him a murderer! How could I when I don't have any facts to say this?
I just hope they find her soon and get it all figured out for the sake of her poor family. My heart goes out to them.

 

[TNGirl615]

The family is having the Benefit for Michelle Loree Parker Trust today. Look at all the people that showed up (if you're on Facebook)! That is awesome. I'm so glad that family has so much support. Is there any searches by the LE today (and sorry if someone has already posted the answer to this)?