FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - # 2

[amysmom]

Orlando police served a search warrant for missing mother Michelle Parker at an Orange County home Saturday night, possibly owned by her ex-fiance, Dale Smith Jr., father. BBM = "possibly"

Witnesses told WFTV reporter Ryan Hughes that Smith's father, Dale Smith Sr., was among those put in handcuffs. Two women, a man and some children were also apprehended.
http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/mother-missing-orlando-woman-announce-new-50000-re/nFmqb/

ubm

The below quote from the same article re: the children is most likely closer to the truth..It's so obvious what the intentions are of most of the MSM reporting on this! Anyway! Re: the children "detained" during the search I now believe it's probably 'true' that Dale Jr's sister & her children do live with his father in that house..She must be the other "woman" along with Dale Sr's wife? It implies there were 2 "men" in the house..My guess is he is related somehow (husband/bf) to the sister.


Neighbors say that Smith Jr.'s father, Dale Smith Sr., was among those put in handcuffs. Two women, a man, and some children were also detained while police searched.

 

[katydid23]

Maybe I'm reading too much into her voice mail left for her dad but do any of you mention the day when leaving a voice mail for someone close to you?

I don't. Just curious if others do.

I do, but only when calling my parents. LOL They get confused easily, and don't listen to their voice mail regularly.

 

[~n/t~]

I know LE don't have to say anything but good lord why would they go to that extreme? Was Dale Sr in trouble with the law in the past? Something doesn't make any sense to me. I could understand if it was drug bust or anything gang related but they obviously went in there thinking Michelle was there but wasn't? What in the world made them think she was there? Who tipped them off that they took it as credible enough to raid the home?

 

[Ironhorse]

But let's not forget the Police made no arrest and claim they found nothing of interest...

The raid on the Home of DS Sr. just means LE haven't ruled out DS Jr & DS Sr as being connected with the disappearance of MP. DS Jr's town home was searched the day after MP disappearance 11-18-11 and LE never said they found anything of interest there either.

Monitoring both is SOP of LE and just because they are doesn't mean they aren't looking at other possibilities... While it's very common in such situations that it tends to be someone close to the victim who's responsible. It's by no means 100% of the time. LE in the absence of any evidence must consider other possibilities...

Just because two people have a history of not getting along doesn't imply they would murder the other.

 

[truthsleuth]

WOW. So it looks like LE has not cleared Dale from possible involvement in this thing.
I know I haven't. He has been on my radar from the start. How many times have we seen this same scenario: Mom goes to the ex's house to drop off the kids. Her car is found abandoned nearby,w/flat tire, no sign of mom. Too many times, imo.

He's been on my radar as well, since day 1. And though LE said for over a week that he wasn't a person of interest, it's quite clear all along he was. I believe it is the most logical of all hypotheses, and I'm sticking with it. :innocent:

 

[katydid23]

I know LE don't have to say anything but good lord why would they go to that extreme? Was Dale Sr in trouble with the law in the past? Something doesn't make any sense to me. I could understand if it was drug bust or anything gang related but they obviously went in there thinking Michelle was there but wasn't? What in the world made them think she was there? Who tipped them off that they took it as credible enough to raid the home?

I think they had reason to believe there might have been weapons in the home and or some other contraband. And Dale Sr sounds like a guy with a bad attitude. So he may have a past history with LE himself. imoo

 

[MyTinkieGirl]

Matching jewelry: Ms Parker was wearing a cross necklace (left) and a pink ring that was identical to her mother's (right) when she disappeared

Was looking online for diff crosses with similar type of design...NOT the same cross, just the 4 "jewel" design in the corners....this says it's a "religious" site...http://www.onlyreligiousjewelry.com...roductID=13940&ProcessType=1&metalid=10&mid=0 Again...does NOT portray her cross...just type of style, IMO.
So, pretty positive Scientology jewelry wouldn't be on there, since they want to be as separate from Christianity as possible.. So, looks like MAYBE MP's cross isn't Scientology based....can't say, though, has family come out about her affiliation with that group?

 

[cluciano63]

But let's not forget the Police made no arrest and claim they found nothing of interest...

The raid on the Home of DS Sr. just means LE haven't ruled out DS Jr & DS Sr as being connected with the disappearance of MP. DS Jr's town home was searched the day after MP disappearance 11-18-11 and LE never said they found anything of interest there either.

Monitoring both is SOP of LE and just because they are doesn't mean they aren't looking at other possibilities... While it's very common in such situations that it tends to be someone close to the victim who's responsible. It's by no means 100% of the time. LE in the absence of any evidence must consider other possibilities...

Just because two people have a history of not getting along doesn't imply they would murder the other.

True enough, but when the other person is also the last person to have seen the victim, the odds seem to increase...JMO

 

[Patty G]

If someone BUSTS into my house and throws in a "flash gernade" with children inside the home, with the media pounding on my door to get answers, I would have a BAD attitude also. I would have some real "Jersey-Girl" type words for all of them, and probably would have done it "upfront and personal" too!

 

[SurfieTX]

I know LE don't have to say anything but good lord why would they go to that extreme? Was Dale Sr in trouble with the law in the past? Something doesn't make any sense to me. I could understand if it was drug bust or anything gang related but they obviously went in there thinking Michelle was there but wasn't? What in the world made them think she was there? Who tipped them off that they took it as credible enough to raid the home?

Based on Dale, Sr.'s behavior to his neighbors and the media, I would imagine he's a pretty hot-headed guy. I think LE knew this and possibly knew that there were firearms in the home. IMO, they believed that the situation was dangerous for the officers, so they took control of the home and its occupants immediately.

 

[Coldpizza]

But let's not forget the Police made no arrest and claim they found nothing of interest...

The raid on the Home of DS Sr. just means LE haven't ruled out DS Jr & DS Sr as being connected with the disappearance of MP. DS Jr's town home was searched the day after MP disappearance 11-18-11 and LE never said they found anything of interest there either.

Monitoring both is SOP of LE and just because they are doesn't mean they aren't looking at other possibilities... While it's very common in such situations that it tends to be someone close to the victim who's responsible. It's by no means 100% of the time. LE in the absence of any evidence must consider other possibilities...

Just because two people have a history of not getting along doesn't imply they would murder the other.

I agree with everything you say here. Monitoring is SOP, but the way they raided yesterday is pretty extreme, and I have to question why. Also, we have seen many cases where LE said they found nothing, but only to learn later on that they did. I wonder if they took any evidence out of the house?

 

[Patty G]

So far, not one news station has indicated anything was taken from the house. But then, the media appeared to show up "after-the-fact".

The brief interviews with the neighbors didn't indicate they removed anything either.

 

[katydid23]

But let's not forget the Police made no arrest and claim they found nothing of interest...

The raid on the Home of DS Sr. just means LE haven't ruled out DS Jr & DS Sr as being connected with the disappearance of MP. DS Jr's town home was searched the day after MP disappearance 11-18-11 and LE never said they found anything of interest there either.

Monitoring both is SOP of LE and just because they are doesn't mean they aren't looking at other possibilities... While it's very common in such situations that it tends to be someone close to the victim who's responsible. It's by no means 100% of the time. LE in the absence of any evidence must consider other possibilities...

Just because two people have a history of not getting along doesn't imply they would murder the other.

But it also tells me something else. It also tells me that Dales' alibi probably does not hold up. And there may well be problems with the videos that are supposed to show Michelle driving away safe and sound in the hummer at 3:30. imoo

 

[Ironhorse]

I know LE don't have to say anything but good lord why would they go to that extreme? Was Dale Sr in trouble with the law in the past? Something doesn't make any sense to me. I could understand if it was drug bust or anything gang related but they obviously went in there thinking Michelle was there but wasn't? What in the world made them think she was there? Who tipped them off that they took it as credible enough to raid the home?

Our LE & Judges have a bad habit of overstepping their authority.

Would it have been so difficult for Swat to play a back up roll, while regular patrolmen cordon off the area while two detectives knocked on the door and told the home owner they have a search warrant to search the home? Then if the home owner denied entry LE could have elevated their insistence upon searching the home. But to go into the home with guns drawn tossing flash grenades as if they was housing Osama Bin Laden is completely uncalled for...

 

[squints]

I agree with everything you say here. Monitoring is SOP, but the way they raided yesterday is pretty extreme, and I have to question why. Also, we have seen many cases where LE said they found nothing, but only to learn later on that they did. I wonder if they took any evidence out of the house?

I have only heard that the police did NOT find what they were looking "for" while dales fathers houses was raided. (whatever that "for" stands for, I dont know).
And yes, I agree that many cases LE says one thing, but it's another thing....and I think that's on purpose.

However, when D.S. house was searched, they removed computers. (which is why im surprised many of his online accounts have not been touched since the day before this happened- if they had his computer they should be in his myspace, photobucket, etc (he has tons of online accounts and SN's)

 

[truthsleuth]

But let's not forget the Police made no arrest and claim they found nothing of interest...

The raid on the Home of DS Sr. just means LE haven't ruled out DS Jr & DS Sr as being connected with the disappearance of MP. DS Jr's town home was searched the day after MP disappearance 11-18-11 and LE never said they found anything of interest there either.

Monitoring both is SOP of LE and just because they are doesn't mean they aren't looking at other possibilities... While it's very common in such situations that it tends to be someone close to the victim who's responsible. It's by no means 100% of the time. LE in the absence of any evidence must consider other possibilities...

Just because two people have a history of not getting along doesn't imply they would murder the other.

I think it's pretty clear since LE/OCPD brought in a swat team of 12 officers and flash banged the home on Rose Blvd. that they were fairly certain they had reasonable cause. Was anyone arrested? No. And so? They have not found a body yet and I don't believe they will declare a suspect until they do. But, again, clearly they did not act on a whim last night in descending on the home of DS's father.

LE is releasing almost no information in this case...not where they and TES are searching, not the video of when the Hummer left the condo complex, etc., etc. So even if they claimed to have found nothing of interest, I'm quite sure they wouldn't have told us if they found the phone or part of the decal or something else of value to this case. They don't have to tell us anything, and it appears they won't.

For me the fact that they raided the house is huge and a defining moment. I continue to believe that DS and his father are involved. Is LE looking at other possibilities? Probably. But clearly their eyes are fixed rather exclusively at the point on the two Mr. Smiths.

 

[imamaze]

Working on a new thread... will be closing this one in a few.

Ima

 

[imamaze]

Closing thread, please continue here...

FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 #3 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

 

[MyTinkieGirl]

I just don't see the TV airing of their court battle being germane to this situation outside MP & DS... There is lots of bizarre stuff that people upon reflection connect together to mean something more than what they are. Some people look up at the Moon and see a face. Then take for instance all the strange coincidences surrounding the assassinations of Lincoln & Kennedy. And least we forget how Jefferson & Adams both died within hours of one another on the 50th Anniversary of Independence Day.... We must always be cautious of scotoma (the mind sees what the mind wants to see)...

If DS was so outraged by what occurred during the taping of the TV court show. Why would he have waited for months to act out on it? He had plenty of times shortly afterwards the taping to go ballistic. If we are to believe DS was buying his time and being so calculating in his planning to carryout a murderous act. Then him doing so on the day the show aired would contradict all the thoughtful planning being contributed to him... No, anyone who's going to be that crafty isn't going to jeopardize their mission, by foolishly doing it on a day she is to appear on TV...

Now, granted he may have snapped at the last minute after viewing the show but his alibi seems to be air tight. But there is the equal chance he had put this all behind him and she dropped off the kids and she went on her way and met with an unknown fate. If the latter be the case I don't see how her TV appearance that day has anything to do with her disappearance.

Well, I kinda said in my post, it may not neccessarily have been HIM, per se....like someone "close" who snapped, etc...hated MP...felt ex was wrongly portrayed...etc.
Also...remember...this was ALL done on a TV show...I'll use the term "national" TV....into peoples homes...they were "judging" HIM by what SHE said....people watching these shows don't know these people....they may end up saying "he's a dirt bag"...."I feel so bad for her".
IIRC, HE came across as the "bully", IMO....she, OTOH, not so much.
THAT could have really PO'd a friend OR relative of his....and, as I said, etc.

O/T....Amazing info!!! Thanks, did NOT even know the info about Adams and Jefferson...maybe they felt "their work was done" 50 years after what they fought so long and hard for....maybe they were poisoned by a disgruntled "signer" whose name was last...Matthew Thornton....sorry, just bustin ya!!!

 

[squints]

He's been on my radar as well, since day 1. And though LE said for over a week that he wasn't a person of interest, it's quite clear all along he was. I believe it is the most logical of all hypotheses, and I'm sticking with it. :innocent:

I'm doing some research and need to verify the following information:

1. Is Dale's middle initial W., as is his father's?? is his full name DALE WAYNE SMITH?

2. Date of birth: 06/28/1971?

Anyone know? Thanks in advance.

I can help you with that above, if I am allowed to post it on here that is.