FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #11

[Reality Orlando]

I agree there are arguments around the kids paradox, but it doesn't dismiss the fact he still had the children to deal with. Plus time constraints put a real problem on DS Jr having done this. Anyone who's just murdered their ex-fiance now knows they must dispose of the body, ditch the vehicle and phone plus get back home before the law comes knocking on the door... Obviously anyone committing such an act knows he can't keep the body any where close to his home or any place connected to his family.

Those of you have paid close attention know I've not said DS Jr is innocent. He should be on the radar he had motive but it takes more than motive. I'm just saying I'm not going to rush to judgment as he might not have had anything to do with MP disappearance. There is other possibilities and to ignore them would be reckless.

As for DS Jr behavior about not wanting to take a lie detector. That means nothing to me I wouldn't take one either regardless if I was only being asked if the sky was blue. Just refusing to take a lie detector is enough for many people to already assume a person must be guilty of something. Actually taking one and passing only invokes suspicion that the person was crafty enough to get a positive result. That's a far cry from being thought of as innocent.

If Mp was headed home after dropping off the kids then it's only reasonable she would have taken the quickest route home. If this be the case then she would have driven east along Lee Vista Blvd to catch the 417 north. What's to keep her from being abducted along that route? Maybe some punks saw a nice Hummer with an attractive frail female they thought was easy pickings?

What if she needed gas and headed down Goldenrod instead (Mobile/Hess on the corner of Goldenrod and Curry Ford usually have some of the cheapest gas in the area.)? Since her windows were tinted that dark she may not have noticed someone getting in the Hummer while she pumped gas. She could then have picked up 408 then 417 that way as well.

 

[Bittiness39]

So you go with heat of the moment vs premeditated? I agree it happened inside condo but I think your theory has too many moving pieces. Not ruling it out. I'm Just thinking this was planned in advance. Dale picks up his accomplice. They wait for Michelle and then accomplice takes hummer. Dale goes on way to parents with michelle's cell phone. Much cleaner and less vehicles to worry about and clock to worry about. Dale know Michelle's son gets off bus at 3:30-3:45 - not much time to run his distraction route...

Heat of the moment only because he has committed domestic violence...before...and DV perps don't need a reason. This is just one of many theories. I like the theory best where she is just upset over the People's Court and comes home... But my first theory was that someone was lying in wait. For this moment. If she is as timely and to schedule as we have been told (not just by her family but by co-workers and bosses) she had a schedule...and stuck to it. He would had to have known this...Hence, him being the doer, an accomplice lying in wait with Dale helping or being the doer, or a hired hit...can't be ruled out.

I never got an answer about her heart condition/blood pressure...which is in the official missing page put forth by law enforcement...could that be a small clue...???

 

[katydid23]

My opinions only, no facts here:

As usual, either I am reading your mind or you are reading mine. I did not see anything in the TV court episode that would enrage the boyfriend.

I have asked a couple of questions a few times now and no definite answers are forthcoming. Where approximately did Michelle live? I have read at least a hundred times about her 11 year old son coming "home" after school. Where approximately is this "home".

Regarding the possible Hummer sighting by Ironhorse, I weight all observations as a percentage of their likelihood. Having said this, can you or anyone tell me: which direction (east, west, north, or south) was the Hummer reported to have been traveling at 4 o'clock by Ironwood, and what numbered road was it on?

I think it was not answered because it is kind of nebulous. We have heard from articles that she lived for the past year and a half with her parents. But it was also reported that she recently moved in with her sister. So I am not sure which home the 11 yr old walked to from the school bus, the grandmothers or the aunts/

 

[Dee in MD]

My opinions only, no facts here:

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As usual, either I am reading your mind or you are reading mine. I did not see anything in the TV court episode that would enrage the boyfriend.

I did, the fact he didn't get 5K for the ring, only 2500, somewhere along the line it was brought up about the amount received. And after the airing, all that would have needed to be said is something like "I didn't have to pay the 2500 anyways, PC did, ddin't cost me anything, enjoyed the trip" "you heard what I said in the end, it's over" and the gosh forbid "I've got someone better than you'll ever be" Or something along those lines.

 

[Maria 1]

What I still don't understand is if Dale is considered a prime suspect, why are the kids still with him? It doesn't make any sense to me.... he would MOST def be a threat to those kids especially considering his past and who knows what drugs and mental state he's currently in. It's a shame the judge made such a stupid decision. Other than Michelle, those kids should also be a priority.

 

[katydid23]

What I still don't understand is if Dale is considered a prime suspect, why are the kids still with him? It doesn't make any sense to me.... he would MOST def be a threat to those kids especially considering his past and who knows what drugs and mental state he's currently in. It's a shame the judge made such a stupid decision. Other than Michelle, those kids should also be a priority.

He is their legal parent, and with no charges brought against him, it is illegal for his kids to be taken from him. I am glad we have laws like that to protect parents, but it is also bad in situations like this. I do worry that if he starts to feel desperate, he could end his life and take them along.

 

[Maria 1]

He is their legal parent, and with no charges brought against him, it is illegal for his kids to be taken from him. I am glad we have laws like that to protect parents, but it is also bad in situations like this. I do worry that if he starts to feel desperate, he could end his life and take them along.

It might be illegal but in situations like this there should be an exception. Charges or not, he's still a suspect with a violent past and these children shouldn't be in the middle of that. So what happens when they find even more clues that point to him and he decides to leave the State w/ his kids to never be seen again???...Who knows what he'll do. Pisses me off that the judge made such an ignorant decision.

 

[Cerebellum]

I did, the fact he didn't get 5K for the ring, only 2500, somewhere along the line it was brought up about the amount received. And after the airing, all that would have needed to be said is something like "I didn't have to pay the 2500 anyways, PC did, ddin't cost me anything, enjoyed the trip" "you heard what I said in the end, it's over" and the gosh forbid "I've got someone better than you'll ever be" Or something along those lines.

:seeya:

 

[Cerebellum]

We are going to wake up & Michelle will have been found, right? raying:



fftobed:

 

[telemag]

We are going to wake up & Michelle will have been found, right? raying:



fftobed:

I honestly wouldn't find it too hard to believe as far as finding her alive and well if it wasn't for finding the phone.

 

[Storm]

And in this lies the rub with many people(moo from reading the multiple pages of posts over the last 12-24hrs discussing this exact issue).. Meaning due to there being completely and totally different times given as the time of the alleged sighting of Michelle's distinctive Hummer.. Most importantly is the fact that original time stated of the alleged sighting does line up with the patterns and evidence we know occurred that day(ie. our specific times that we do know for certain along with info released by LE such as the pings that day/night).. The problem lies in that at a much later time(ATLEAST days if not a week after she disappeared) the time of the alleged sighting suddenly changes.. That altering or changing of this all important alleged sighting time suddenly springs forth major inconsistencies with the facts of this case(tho there may be only few there are still facts).. these inconsistencies arise ONLY OUT OF the altered/changed time of the alleged sighting.. It is this issue that causes many of us great concern because claims of inconsistencies are based solely on an altered and changed time.. That's a problem in and of itself and why so many take issue with these newfound claims of inconsistencies(ex. "I can't figure out why Michelle's Hummer could have been in this area at this time?").. These exact questions and theories are derived solely from information that isn't verified In any way whatsoever(tho just as teh posted upthread the extremely easy ways to verify and go to LE with verification in hand to prove the alleged sighting).. But at this point there's no verifying or evidence to substantiate the sighting.. And then on top of that what is most bothersome of all is that the actual time of the sighting has changed(documented by the posts brought forward by Kazoo).. IMO that makes the alleged sighting all the more "iffy" to say the least..

It is that exact issue that is IMO causing some to have concern for there now to be offshoots of theories that are based solely on a sighting that may or may not have happened and the time at the very least is not known for certain.. It's my opinion that derails the accuracy and validity that we all make certain that our discussions are based on(that's actually even in TOS).. That there must be verified factual basis of some type for us to theorize.. It's troublesome when the basis being used has been altered, changed, and on top of that has no means of verification..

I can only speak for myself but it's my opinion that this is the issue at hand that is causing several to be concerned.. It is nothing personal whatsoever it is simply that it is flawed information that IMO isnt fair to Michelle's case to be leading off on wild goose chases that are solely based on that specific flawed information..
Jmo, tho!

Thank you....this has been a big concern for me..IMO this has to be totally disregarded (because of the change in information provided) until we have video proof etc that it was indeed Michelle's Hummer. ^i^

 

[seabass]

Kimmer makes a great point--Dale can't work because he is "taking care of the kids" but he worked the day after she went missing. He was still in possession of them at that point. Was this the only day he worked since then? Or did he quit after he was named a suspect?

Also, I thought I read somewhere that her sister Lauren also lived with mom, that they all lived together. But that may have been another poster here, and not confirmed fact. Does anyone else remember that?

Lastly, I am starting to really think he may have had an accomplice. I initially thought he could have done this all on his own. I still think that's possible, but the more I think about phone pings and the timing, the more I lean towards he had help. Not in the actual killing, but of the disposal and dispersal of evidence. WHY not smash the phone though? That's what's killing me. The sheer stupidity of criminals sometimes...

 

[Bittiness39]

I honestly wouldn't find it too hard to believe as far as finding her alive and well if it wasn't for finding the phone.

I like any scenario where Michelle is found alive...those kids...Christmas...especially the 11 year old. :tears:

 

[katydid23]

Kimmer makes a great point--Dale can't work because he is "taking care of the kids" but he worked the day after she went missing. He was still in possession of them at that point. Was this the only day he worked since then? Or did he quit after he was named a suspect?

Also, I thought I read somewhere that her sister Lauren also lived with mom, that they all lived together. But that may have been another poster here, and not confirmed fact. Does anyone else remember that?

Lastly, I am starting to really think he may have had an accomplice. I initially thought he could have done this all on his own. I still think that's possible, but the more I think about phone pings and the timing, the more I lean towards he had help. Not in the actual killing, but of the disposal and dispersal of evidence. WHY not smash the phone though? That's what's killing me. The sheer stupidity of criminals sometimes...

But it might not have been stupid if he is successful in keeping all of the searches based around where the phone was pinging. Maybe it was a decoy and a distraction. Maybe the phone went with him to his parents home, where he threw it out of the truck. He may have done that purposely so that they would not go near where she was really disposed of.

eta:if they search all of the family properties and all of the local ponds and lakes, then the family can start saying SEE, NOTHING HERE.

 

[artzypantz]

Do we know for certain MP wasn't going to go spray tan someone? What if a perp set an appt for a tan and had other ideas for her? To me, that makes sense as to why the Tan decal was removed from the vehicle, because its directly connected to the perps reason of being in contact. Does that make sense? Something inside me still believes this was a crime done by a sexual predator.

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Respectfully snipped BBM

I was wondering this very thing Danilee!

Have there been any statements confirming who, If anyone, worked with Michelle on her Glow business? Was there someone who helped her with scheduling appointments, etc? Or was the Glow business a completely solo gig with Michelle being the one and only person in the biz?

Thanks!

Artzypantz

 

[Wild@Heart]

Respectfully snipped BBM

I was wondering this very thing Danilee!

Have there been any statements confirming who, If anyone, worked with Michelle on her Glow business? Was there someone who helped her with scheduling appointments, etc? Or was the Glow business a completely solo gig with Michelle being the one and only person in the biz?

Thanks!

Artzypantz

I believe it was Yvonne that said she kept everything in her phone. She scheduled in the phones calender. She stated that she would use the salon for new costumers or people she didn't know.

 

[Private Dallasite]

We've given so many scenarios of how it "went down" if ds killed mp. Someone please give me a scenario of ds' involvement if she is still alive!

 

[Bittiness39]

We've given so many scenarios of how it "went down" if ds killed mp. Someone please give me a scenario of ds' involvement if she is still alive!

I wish there was one. There is no way, if DS is/was involved that she is alive. I hate this. There are no other trails leading other than to him and he decided to lawyer up when they wanted a poly after three interrogations.

Whatever people's opinions of polys may be...really? you don't take one when someone is missing because you are lying...I would love to hear stats on false positives on these suckers.

 

[cluciano63]

I can't really think of a believable way that Michelle is alive somewhere assuming a crime has taken place, which I do...I just don't believe people are "held someplace" all that often. Sadly, it is easier to hide a body than conceal a living person, IMO...

 

[wantjustice]

Does anyone know if they are searching Sunday for MP? If this has already been asked sorry about that. I keep hoping to hear they found her. I pray every day for answers!