FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #14

[Pias]

seems murder was not uncommon at this area where the hummer was found.

http://westorlandonews.com/2010/05/15/orlando-police-searching-for-suspect-in-double-homicide/

Killer could have recalled this event and placed vehicle there. Michelle may have even mentioned to Dale. Wow I have a client in that complex where that murder was...

Did you notice that both comments they show were made by the same person under different names? Erm... well... that would be my guess anyway, based on the handwriting and fingerprints... okay- the grammar and time/date stamp. :innocent:

 

[Patty G]

What does that mean? We cant link it? I linked pics so as to avoid too many people getting confused by the unverified info on his site.
Im just going to delete my post. I dont feel Im on the same level with y'all and I really dont understand the rules. I am trying to "fit in" but Im not doing a very good job. lol... Maybe Im trying to hard.

Good night raying: for Michelle

Basically what he is saying, you can't post his photos anywhere without asking his permission or taking his written words and post it anywhere else without his permission.



We can link to his website and tell others to look at his photos. We can discuss what he says, but not re-post his exact words.

He puts himself in the same category as MSM, however, with Dave he goes that extra mile to protect his work.

 

[iluvmua]

LE would have gotten fingerprints off the phone right?

 

[Victory]

What does that mean? We cant link it? I linked pics so as to avoid too many people getting confused by the unverified info on his site.
Im just going to delete my post. I dont feel Im on the same level with y'all and I really dont understand the rules. I am trying to "fit in" but Im not doing a very good job. lol Maybe Im trying to hard.

I, for one, am happy the photos were posted. A few days ago, I asked about the possibility of Michelle parking there to visit a client or to shop. If she did, it still doesnt exclude Dale as the perp. Maybe he followed her there or maybe he had a friend set up a fake appointment to lure her there. Then again, maybe the perp IS someone other than Dale and it is someone that lives in that immediate area. Either way, this area nags at me so I was happy to be able to look at the photos.

 

[artnut12345]

This is what the Morgan & Morgan page says about the trust

The family of missing Florida mom Michelle Parker has retained the services of Morgan and Morgan. A Trust Fund has been established to fund rescue efforts and provide for her children.

http://www.forthepeople.com/

somebodysdarling, thanks for the link. It says "trust" & that's what the money analyst said, "a trust would prevent DS2 from trying to seek the money." It looks like Morgan/Morgan is on top of the PRIME SUSPECT & anything he might try.

 

[Patty G]

I don't know but I am guessing it's not OK to reproduce anything from the site unless maybe credit is givin?

Nope, you have to ask him if you can post his photos and what he writes elsewhere.

I have dealt with Dave on occasions and he is really strict when he comes to his stuff and rightfully so.

ETA: For instance taking a paragraph of Dave's words, one would have to ask if this can be posted on another site.

This is basically the same with MSM articles. We are allowed to take 10% of the written word and no more because then we would be in copyright violation. This is why in most cases we copy the title of the article, perhaps a sentence and link to the rest of the article.

 

[Pias]

Great point. All killer would have to do is look at her schedule and dump vehicle in a spot where she had previously scheduled a client visit. That in theory could buy more time before the vehicle was discovered.

Excellent point!:saber: Unless it was password protected

 

[Dion]

I am confused...was the thing about her Hummer having been seen on other ocassions at the apt. complex where it was ultimately found a rumor, not a fact? If so, I did not mean to expand on it, but if true, it certainly had to be someone Michelle knew, IMO and someone wanted it to appear she never made it out of the apartment she allegedly visited there...

Eye witnesses are often mistaken, so I'm not sure how credible these reports are. However, if it turns out to be true, then I would say that DS was going through Michelle's calendar and found someone listed at this complex, and that's why her vehicle was left there.

I don't know why she would be taking on clients in this neighbourhood, if it's known as a high crime area, why risk it? but I suppose anything is possible. Personally, I think it's a long shot.

ETA: I see someone else just posted the same thing

 

[4BB]

I'm done. I think everything is gone.

I was told I couldn't link site, then told I could, then it became apparent that people didn't like the guy, so in order to try and..yet again.."fit in" I thought I would just link the pics with a link to him and not necessarily advertise him in big bold letters.

Didn't mean to cause this..just trying to help. my apologies.

night

 

[Jersey*Girl]

Something's been eating at me & I just figured out what it is...

Amber DuBois. Remember her?

Moe, Carrie and Dave were TORN APART, most especially Dave. He was named a poi, suspicion surrounded him bc nothing was "normal" for him about the day Amber went missing. From the VD chocs & roses on the 13th to taking off that day from work plus going head to head with Amber so much so that counseling was needed - you name it and it was there, the negative connotations surrounded this family in abundance.

And it was wrong. Completely. Unequivocally. And it's deplorable bc it ruined lives.

None of them were perfect, all targeted by the media with their selective agenda pushing reporting, yet all were innocent.

The killer, Gardner, was caught & convicted. A sex offender that shouldn't have been on the streets at all is to blame for Ambers rape & murder, as well as others.

Yet the blame was obvious on all venues, every single one. Moe, Carrie and Dave were all targeted and felt the brunt of everyone's skepticism. Dave really took a huge hit. It demolished lives.

This is what's bugging me. What about if Dale's innocent in Michelle's disappearance? If he is, and if somebody else is caught and found guilty, he could just up and move out of the country with his kids in tow never to look back again, to start over fresh & new. Ya just never know what the future holds.

Here's a good read but if anyone would care to see exactly what I'm talking about, just google Amber's name & hit up all the online communities, most especially the main media sites - these people (Dave especially) were run into the ground by people that had no clue who they really are. Anyway, here's a start for those interested but there's threads here on Amber too:
http://m.cbsnews.com/fullstory.rbml?feed_id=0&catid=20070544&videofeed=36

 

[Patty G]

I'm done. I think everything is gone.

I was told I couldn't link site, then told I could, then it became apparent that people didn't like the guy, so in order to try and..yet again.."fit in" I thought I would just link the pics with a link to him and not necessarily advertise him in big bold letters.

Didn't mean to cause this..just trying to help. my apologies.

night

You are doing a good job and you already are one of the gang here. The key is "we can link" to his site, at least for today as things can change depending on what happens.

It's always an adjustment based on what is happening. :blowkiss:

 

[SmoothOperator]

Originally Posted by telemag
There is no way one person walked away from that car. Someone had to give the other a ride back.

MOO but I do not find that to be such a necessity at all that two people were needed in order to dump the Hummer(one needed to give the other a ride).. Not only do I find it's not a necessity for there to be ATLEAST two individuals to dump and abandon the Hummer.. But just as I believe one individual to be more than sufficient in the dumping of the Hummer on Walden Circle.. I believe there was only one, single, solitary individual necessary to dispose of the body, dispose of the phone, remove the decals and dispose of the Hummer, and then last item to be rid of, the keys.. IMO all that's needed is one, single person for it all..

I am not attempting to lay out a minute by minute theory of how I believe it to have exactly gone down in completing all of those tasks(I will unload all of that detail orientated listing in another post).. But in speaking specifically about whether or not two individuals were necessary for the tasks to be completed within the frame of time that we have to work with.. My personal opinion is that it absolutely is possible to do all alone and with zero assistance from another in even having to catch a ride at some point..

Dale physically is 100% capable of all physical tasks involved in murdering a female that was less than half the size of himself.. As well as absolutely capable of any physicalities necessary in disposing of a body this small in stature..

He is more than capable of pulling the Hummer into the garage of his condo at which time he had to complete the task of removing the large GLOW decals.. A necessity to rid such distinguishing characteristics to Michelle's specific black Hummer.. Therefor he knew he had to remove them.. IMO no problem there and easily completely all by himself..

As I said am not attempting to give a detail oriented exact timeline of these events but rather just the events that were required and whether he could accomplish them all by his lonesome self.. Or that any or all of the tasks would at any point require his receiving the assistance of another individual..

So, in no specific order the tasks left are to dispose of body, Hummer, keys all of these completed and he back at the parents home somewhere between 8:00-9:00pm and then eventually back home to his condo sometime after 10pm where he "claims" LE had already come and searched the condo by 11:08 when he was
Posting on his FB..

Dale without the assistance of anyone else could have easily and efficiently driven the Hummer, decals removed, and used Michelle's very own vehicle to transport her body to where he decided to dispose of her.. At some point along the route between he and daddies house he easily disposes of the phone off the Nela Bridge..

At the disposal site he, himself is perfectly capable to meet any of the physical demands involved of disposing of a body literally less than half the size of himself.. Completes the task and is moving toward the final phase nearing completion.. He easily drives the Hummer to an area that is anybody's guess as to why he chose that specific area, that specific apt complex, etc.. Except for the fact that IMO is most obvious.. That being that it is literally 3 very, short, little miles that he's left to walk back home to daddy's Rose Blvd home after having completed his very short list of tasks necessary to dispose of the main items of importance to him..the body, the phone, the Hummer, and lastly don't forget those dang keys that he'd still have had as he rolled up into that parking space on Walden Circle and abandoned the Decal-LESS Hummer.. The keys were not left behind but rather were the final item disposed of as Dale took that nice 3mile walk back to daddy's house..

And as I'd posted about long ago I still believe the keys having been the very last item disposed of that they are in area(or were disposed of in something that was in that area.. Like trash can, dumpster,etc).. Or body of water, canal, swampy marsh.. But definitely in an area between Walden Circle and Rose Blvd.. And IMO all were disposed of separately and different areas all together.. Keys between Hummer and dads house.. Body at disposal site(IMO not gonna be far out of his comfort zone).. Phone disposed of off Nela Bridge at some point while en route to or from any of these named places.. And finally the Hummer as we know located on Walden Circle..

And just as we all can see with our own two eyes in looking on a map at those places/locations just listed of importance.. Well., there is a very very clear pattern that those dots each connect one to the other.. All roads lead to the Smith's who just so happened to be the last person Michelle saw, who just so happens to have a violent/volatile past with, who just so happened to have that volatile relationship aired for the world to see on that very day on PC..

All roads lead to Dale and in order for it to be anything else then Dale is being framed and it's one helluva spectacular frame job!!

He wouldn't have needed a ride at any point throughout his completing all tasks involving disposing of items from the crime.. In fact the only ride necessary would be a ride involving the kids(to and from Dale's.. Or actually just from if they didn't return with Dale back to the condo that night)..

All jmo..

 

[cluciano63]

Amber DuBois' stepdad tried desperately to get himself cleared...8 LD tests, if I remember correctly. I don't think there was a time when he stopped trying to help LE, if he could.

Of course there is a chance LE is wrong about DS...there is always a chance and that is why they have trials, IMO. But they did take the step of naming him as a suspect in a very public and official way, something I don't believe ever happened with Amber's stepdad, and I tend to err on the side of LE as far as believing they have reasons.

Whether he had been named or not, the way the internet works, he would be blasted and torn apart either way, sadly...JMO

 

[telemag]

Something's been eating at me & I just figured out what it is...

Amber DuBois. Remember her?

Moe, Carrie and Dave were TORN APART, most especially Dave. He was named a poi, suspicion surrounded him bc nothing was "normal" for him about the day Amber went missing. From the VD chocs & roses on the 13th to taking off that day from work plus going head to head with Amber so much so that counseling was needed - you name it and it was there, the negative connotations surrounded this family in abundance.

And it was wrong. Completely. Unequivocally. And it's deplorable bc it ruined lives.

None of them were perfect, all targeted by the media with their selective agenda pushing reporting, yet all were innocent.

The killer, Gardner, was caught & convicted. A sex offender that shouldn't have been on the streets at all is to blame for Ambers rape & murder, as well as others.

Yet the blame was obvious on all venues, every single one. Moe, Carrie and Dave were all targeted and felt the brunt of everyone's skepticism. Dave really took a huge hit. It demolished lives.

This is what's bugging me. What about if Dale's innocent in Michelle's disappearance? If he is, and if somebody else is caught and found guilty, he could just up and move out of the country with his kids in tow never to look back again, to start over fresh & new. Ya just never know what the future holds.

Here's a good read but if anyone would care to see exactly what I'm talking about, just google Amber's name & hit up all the online communities, most especially the main media sites - these people (Dave especially) were run into the ground by people that had no clue who they really are. Anyway, here's a start for those interested but there's threads here on Amber too:
http://m.cbsnews.com/fullstory.rbml?feed_id=0&catid=20070544&videofeed=36

What if it wasn't Dale and the "guy" who is responsible didn't have to walk anywhere after parking the Hummer? What if he lives right there or very close by? With some of the new info that we are getting some people are still trying to "fit" Dale into this.

 

[telemag]

MOO but I do not find that to be such a necessity at all that two people were needed in order to dump the Hummer(one needed to give the other a ride).. Not only do I find it's not a necessity for there to be ATLEAST two individuals to dump and abandon the Hummer.. But just as I believe one individual to be more than sufficient in the dumping of the Hummer on Walden Circle.. I believe there was only one, single, solitary individual necessary to dispose of the body, dispose of the phone, remove the decals and dispose of the Hummer, and then last item to be rid of, the keys.. IMO all that's needed is one, single person for it all..

I am not attempting to lay out a minute by minute theory of how I believe it to have exactly gone down in completing all of those tasks(I will unload all of that detail orientated listing in another post).. But in speaking specifically about whether or not two individuals were necessary for the tasks to be completed within the frame of time that we have to work with.. My personal opinion is that it absolutely is possible to do all alone and with zero assistance from another in even having to catch a ride at some point..

Dale physically is 100% capable of all physical tasks involved in murdering a female that was less than half the size of himself.. As well as absolutely capable of any physicalities necessary in disposing of a body this small in stature..

He is more than capable of pulling the Hummer into the garage of his condo at which time he had to complete the task of removing the large GLOW decals.. A necessity to rid such distinguishing characteristics to Michelle's specific black Hummer.. Therefor he knew he had to remove them.. IMO no problem there and easily completely all by himself..

As I said am not attempting to give a detail oriented exact timeline of these events but rather just the events that were required and whether he could accomplish them all by his lonesome self.. Or that any or all of the tasks would at any point require his receiving the assistance of another individual..

So, in no specific order the tasks left are to dispose of body, Hummer, keys all of these completed and he back at the parents home somewhere between 8:00-9:00pm and then eventually back home to his condo sometime after 10pm where he "claims" LE had already come and searched the condo by 11:08 when he was
Posting on his FB..

Dale without the assistance of anyone else could have easily and efficiently driven the Hummer, decals removed, and used Michelle's very own vehicle to transport her body to where he decided to dispose of her.. At some point along the route between he and daddies house he easily disposes of the phone off the Nela Bridge..

At the disposal site he, himself is perfectly capable to meet any of the physical demands involved of disposing of a body literally less than half the size of himself.. Completes the task and is moving toward the final phase nearing completion.. He easily drives the Hummer to an area that is anybody's guess as to why he chose that specific area, that specific apt complex, etc.. Except for the fact that IMO is most obvious.. That being that it is literally 3 very, short, little miles that he's left to walk back home to daddy's Rose Blvd home after having completed his very short list of tasks necessary to dispose of the main items of importance to him..the body, the phone, the Hummer, and lastly don't forget those dang keys that he'd still have had as he rolled up into that parking space on Walden Circle and abandoned the Decal-LESS Hummer.. The keys were not left behind but rather were the final item disposed of as Dale took that nice 3mile walk back to daddy's house..

And as I'd posted about long ago I still believe the keys having been the very last item disposed of that they are in area(or were disposed of in something that was in that area.. Like trash can, dumpster,etc).. Or body of water, canal, swampy marsh.. But definitely in an area between Walden Circle and Rose Blvd.. And IMO all were disposed of separately and different areas all together.. Keys between Hummer and dads house.. Body at disposal site(IMO not gonna be far out of his comfort zone).. Phone disposed of off Nela Bridge at some point while en route to or from any of these named places.. And finally the Hummer as we know located on Walden Circle..

And just as we all can see with our own two eyes in looking on a map at those places/locations just listed of importance.. Well., there is a very very clear pattern that those dots each connect one to the other.. All roads lead to the Smith's who just so happened to be the last person Michelle saw, who just so happens to have a violent/volatile past with, who just so happened to have that volatile relationship aired for the world to see on that very day on PC..

All roads lead to Dale and in order for it to be anything else then Dale is being framed and it's one helluva spectacular frame job!!

He wouldn't have needed a ride at any point throughout his completing all tasks involving disposing of items from the crime.. In fact the only ride necessary would be a ride involving the kids(to and from Dale's.. Or actually just from if they didn't return with Dale back to the condo that night)..

All jmo..

Ya never know, maybe.

 

[Velouria]

Amber DuBois' stepdad tried desperately to get himself cleared...8 LD tests, if I remember correctly. I don't think there was a time when he stopped trying to help LE, if he could.
respectfully snipped

Also, Dave Cave didn't have a documented history of assault and domestic violence - unlike DS.

 

[Jersey*Girl]

What if it wasn't Dale and the "guy" who is responsible didn't have to walk anywhere after parking the Hummer? What if he lives right there or very close by? With some of the new info that we are getting some people are still trying to "fit" Dale into this.

Agree.

 

[Bittiness39]

Amber DuBois' stepdad tried desperately to get himself cleared...8 LD tests, if I remember correctly. I don't think there was a time when he stopped trying to help LE, if he could.

Of course there is a chance LE is wrong about DS...there is always a chance and that is why they have trials, IMO. But they did take the step of naming him as a suspect in a very public and official way, something I don't believe ever happened with Amber's stepdad, and I tend to err on the side of LE as far as believing they have reasons.

Whether he had been named or not, the way the internet works, he would be blasted and torn apart either way, sadly...JMO

That is interesting. The Amber Dubois case.

Interesting just because people can't seem to "help" themselves. Her murderer had already been convicted of raping/molesting a neighbor in 2000. he had only completed his parole (even though violating it 7 times) in 2008. He was also living to close to a school. He murdered Amber in 2009. We always think, "They couldn't be that stupid could they?" But sadly, they are. Not just stupid. lacking in impulse control and obviously other things.

I mentioned another case, just about Domestic Violence, earlier this evening. With Chris Rezos. he was meeting his wife at a hotel room to discuss the terms of their divorce. A lot of people knew they were meeting. He still tried to beat her to death. TG someone next door called 911. He bonds out of jail...and then shoots her twice in the head (after climbing into her mini-van and lying in wait)...she survived. Some people are that dumb. And I think have very little impulse control.

In the case of Chris Rezos's wife, while he was attempting to beat her to death, he kept yelling at her, "Just make this easy for me." I think not. Those who lack that kind of impulse control remind me why they shouldn't be out in polite society. JMO. :twocents:

 

[telemag]

Also, Dave Cave also didn't have a documented history of assault and domestic violence - unlike DS.

Good point, so what you are saying is that even if Dale wasn't the violent type he would still be considered prime suspect number one.

 

[Patty G]

MOO but I do not find that to be such a necessity at all that two people were needed in order to dump the Hummer(one needed to give the other a ride).. Not only do I find it's not a necessity for there to be ATLEAST two individuals to dump and abandon the Hummer.. But just as I believe one individual to be more than sufficient in the dumping of the Hummer on Walden Circle.. I believe there was only one, single, solitary individual necessary to dispose of the body, dispose of the phone, remove the decals and dispose of the Hummer, and then last item to be rid of, the keys.. IMO all that's needed is one, single person for it all..

I am not attempting to lay out a minute by minute theory of how I believe it to have exactly gone down in completing all of those tasks(I will unload all of that detail orientated listing in another post).. But in speaking specifically about whether or not two individuals were necessary for the tasks to be completed within the frame of time that we have to work with.. My personal opinion is that it absolutely is possible to do all alone and with zero assistance from another in even having to catch a ride at some point..

Dale physically is 100% capable of all physical tasks involved in murdering a female that was less than half the size of himself.. As well as absolutely capable of any physicalities necessary in disposing of a body this small in stature..

He is more than capable of pulling the Hummer into the garage of his condo at which time he had to complete the task of removing the large GLOW decals.. A necessity to rid such distinguishing characteristics to Michelle's specific black Hummer.. Therefor he knew he had to remove them.. IMO no problem there and easily completely all by himself..

As I said am not attempting to give a detail oriented exact timeline of these events but rather just the events that were required and whether he could accomplish them all by his lonesome self.. Or that any or all of the tasks would at any point require his receiving the assistance of another individual..

So, in no specific order the tasks left are to dispose of body, Hummer, keys all of these completed and he back at the parents home somewhere between 8:00-9:00pm and then eventually back home to his condo sometime after 10pm where he "claims" LE had already come and searched the condo by 11:08 when he was
Posting on his FB..

Dale without the assistance of anyone else could have easily and efficiently driven the Hummer, decals removed, and used Michelle's very own vehicle to transport her body to where he decided to dispose of her.. At some point along the route between he and daddies house he easily disposes of the phone off the Nela Bridge..

At the disposal site he, himself is perfectly capable to meet any of the physical demands involved of disposing of a body literally less than half the size of himself.. Completes the task and is moving toward the final phase nearing completion.. He easily drives the Hummer to an area that is anybody's guess as to why he chose that specific area, that specific apt complex, etc.. Except for the fact that IMO is most obvious.. That being that it is literally 3 very, short, little miles that he's left to walk back home to daddy's Rose Blvd home after having completed his very short list of tasks necessary to dispose of the main items of importance to him..the body, the phone, the Hummer, and lastly don't forget those dang keys that he'd still have had as he rolled up into that parking space on Walden Circle and abandoned the Decal-LESS Hummer.. The keys were not left behind but rather were the final item disposed of as Dale took that nice 3mile walk back to daddy's house..

And as I'd posted about long ago I still believe the keys having been the very last item disposed of that they are in area(or were disposed of in something that was in that area.. Like trash can, dumpster,etc).. Or body of water, canal, swampy marsh.. But definitely in an area between Walden Circle and Rose Blvd.. And IMO all were disposed of separately and different areas all together.. Keys between Hummer and dads house.. Body at disposal site(IMO not gonna be far out of his comfort zone).. Phone disposed of off Nela Bridge at some point while en route to or from any of these named places.. And finally the Hummer as we know located on Walden Circle..

And just as we all can see with our own two eyes in looking on a map at those places/locations just listed of importance.. Well., there is a very very clear pattern that those dots each connect one to the other.. All roads lead to the Smith's who just so happened to be the last person Michelle saw, who just so happens to have a violent/volatile past with, who just so happened to have that volatile relationship aired for the world to see on that very day on PC..

All roads lead to Dale and in order for it to be anything else then Dale is being framed and it's one helluva spectacular frame job!!

He wouldn't have needed a ride at any point throughout his completing all tasks involving disposing of items from the crime.. In fact the only ride necessary would be a ride involving the kids(to and from Dale's.. Or actually just from if they didn't return with Dale back to the condo that night)..

All jmo..

How did Dale get from where he left the Hummer back to his condo to pick up his truck and then get to his father's house?