FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #17

[TexasLil]

You can add Brevard Co and Orange Co. line at 528, Wedgefield, and the triangle at 520 and E. Colonial.

BTW I don't remember who asked several threads back about the "Waste Land" on E Colonial, but that's just it "Wasteland" not buildable property, it's not a landfill.

Oh and you add the area right next to Dale's condo across from Walmart on S. Goldenrod.

Thanks so much for doing this!

OK I've added those. I'm marking the suggested search sites with this...

 

[captdj]

Ok TexasLil

If the 4:26 text was Michelle trying to get a message out.. and got three letters off and autofill finished it with Waterford...

In the zips of 32809 and 32829(DSsr) there are only two streets watts and water way. Water way does NOT look like a place of interest.

Watts st is a dead end street with a lake called Bear Head lake and its only about 1000- 1500 ft from the intersection of Orange and W Sand Lake rd.(which may turn out to be the 4:26 location anyways...


This might not be one of the first places to look but its a possibility.

 

[captdj]

I don't know how to do the fancy maps like some of you.:maddening:

I added some additional points that I seen I had not actually put a marker on even tho I had referenced them... forgot when I was sharing, I needed to mark better.

I also added a couple points such as where the phone was found, the Sr property on W. Church, etc... I wanted to try to get the blue lines around some of my areas of interest. Bay lake (wooded area by nela Ave bridge) will not allow me to place a marker, but those woods there have interested me since the beginning.

This isn't as much of a 3D driving map. :floorlaugh:It will have you going all over the place cuz I'm not good at this map sharing yet. :crazy:

This is my map for THIS area only. Maybe somebody could help me tag like texaslil's map with that text area to the side so it would make more sense.

This is a points of interest map only

Pia Im not any good at this stuff either....you could give your places to texaslil and let her do it for you.....and then bookmark her map and then you can have it open in another window and go back and forth....at least thats what Ive learned to do finally...:innocent:

 

[Sparky]

OK I've added those. I'm marking the suggested search sites with this...

Thanks and then there's this one

Jordan Avenue between Brockbank Drive and Chaucer Lane (the canal)

Per AlwaysWright

And then Econ Community Center on Econ Trail and Curryford Rd.

 

[Pias]

I don't know how to do the fancy maps like some of you.:maddening:

I added some additional points that I seen I had not actually put a marker on even tho I had referenced them... forgot when I was sharing, I needed to mark better.

I also added a couple points such as where the phone was found, the Sr property on W. Church, etc... I wanted to try to get the blue lines around some of my areas of interest. Bay lake (wooded area by nela Ave bridge) will not allow me to place a marker, but those woods there have interested me since the beginning.

This isn't as much of a 3D driving map. :floorlaugh:It will have you going all over the place cuz I'm not good at this map sharing yet. :crazy:

This is my map for THIS area only. Maybe somebody could help me tag like texaslil's map with that text area to the side so it would make more sense.

This is a points of interest map only

I fixed the church address... forgot to verify where to marker went:blushing:

 

[TexasLil]

Ok TexasLil

If the 4:26 text was Michelle trying to get a message out.. and got three letters off and autofill finished it with Waterford...

In the zips of 32809 and 32829(DSsr) there are only two streets watts and water way. Water way does NOT look like a place of interest.

Watts st is a dead end street with a lake called Bear Head lake and its only about 1000- 1500 ft from the intersection of Orange and W Sand Lake rd.(which may turn out to be the 4:26 location anyways...


This might not be one of the first places to look but its a possibility.

Thank you and very good deduction! I pasted your reasoning in the text space for the search icon. Hope that's ok!

 

[TexasLil]

Thanks and then there's this one

Jordan Avenue between Brockbank Drive and Chaucer Lane (the canal)

Per AlwaysWright

And then Econ Community Center on Econ Trail and Curryford Rd.

I have those marked as previous searches by LE. The canal is behind where Sr's sister lives and the Econ Park is where LE set up a command center the day after Michelle's phone was reported to be found I believe.

 

[Evanesco]

I don't know how to do the fancy maps like some of you.:maddening:

I added some additional points that I seen I had not actually put a marker on even tho I had referenced them... forgot when I was sharing, I needed to mark better.

I also added a couple points such as where the phone was found, the Sr property on W. Church, etc... I wanted to try to get the blue lines around some of my areas of interest. Bay lake (wooded area by nela Ave bridge) will not allow me to place a marker, but those woods there have interested me since the beginning.

This isn't as much of a 3D driving map. :floorlaugh:It will have you going all over the place cuz I'm not good at this map sharing yet. :crazy:

This is my map for THIS area only. Maybe somebody could help me tag like texaslil's map with that text area to the side so it would make more sense.

This is a points of interest map only

BBM

Me too! Is that area easily accessible? I really wish I didn't live on the other side of the country, so I could actually help with the search. :maddening:

 

[Pias]

We must have been having an ESP moment TexasLil! You answered my question before I asked it. LOL.

Okay so if the Hummer, with decals, was seen on S Orange Blossom somewhere around 4:30pm then I have to believe it was the vehicle that was driven to his Dad's place with the children likely in it.

His Dad has a large backyard, with a gate. Cars are parked back there and we've seen on various news reports about how they can hide cars back there. So if he drove the Hummer, with the decals, to his Dad's and hid it in the yard then they could have removed the decals there. So where was MP at this time? In the Hummer or still back at the condo?

Does anyone else get the impression with the way YS talked about busting down doors and someone holding MP and then LE doing just that at Sr's house that LE believes that MP was in that Hummer and it was driven directly to Sr's place that day? Might explain why they are not searching anywhere near Jr's condo and haven't seemed to do any forensics there either.

MOO

Good point. And with the growing going on there and the smell plants make, I was thinking they might have a sophisticated ventilation system (to hide odor), and generators (to hide electricity consumption). Generators are noisy. They might have one buried under the building, which means they could have an access hatch in the floor, for example.

2 reasons this could have been overlooked by LE is if
1) Perhaps: They only took cadaver dogs to the Sr Rose home (or any other location) and she was still alive.
2) Perhaps: They only took SAR live person search dogs and she was dead.
3) Perhaps: They never took dogs at all
4) Perhaps: Each time they raided Sr's home (for whatever reason) a growing operation was out of commission, aside from a plant or 2 and all equipment and connections were concealed under the floor, so no one was the wiser.

Could she have been in a secret dugout that had been soundproofed?

 

[Sparky]

Good point. And with the growing going on there and the smell plants make, I was thinking they might have a sophisticated ventilation system (to hide odor), and generators (to hide electricity consumption). Generators are noisy. They might have one buried under the building, which means they could have an access hatch in the floor, for example.

2 reasons this could have been overlooked by LE is if
1) Perhaps: They only took cadaver dogs to the Sr Rose home (or any other location) and she was still alive.
2) Perhaps: They only took SAR live person search dogs and she was dead.
3) Perhaps: They never took dogs at all
4) Perhaps: Each time they raided Sr's home (for whatever reason) a growing operation was out of commission, aside from a plant or 2 and all equipment and connections were concealed under the floor, so no one was the wiser.

Could she have been in a secret dugout that had been soundproofed?

BBM

Interesting...the old McCoy Air Force Base is right next to Orlando International Airport and access to it is the Daetwyler and McCoy Rd area.

 

[Pias]

Well the dogs would have hit even if the body had only been kept there for a very short period or even if she had been killed there and quickly taken somewhere else. I don't believe she was there for 9 days.

I think its possible she could have been being held against her will, if she were in a location no one could find or hear. That's why knowing what kind of dogs were at the raid would help narrow the options. If she were alive, and they only used cadaver dogs, that might explain them not picking up her scent.

So if that grow room has a secret soundproof room below it to quiet a generator and a ventilation system is hooked into the sewer...

I'm just throwing that angle out there for thought. No facts here.

 

[Pias]

I've made a copy of my original map and we can use this one to also place areas to search. I left all our other locations on the map so we can see the suggested search areas relative to other key locations. I'll start adding the suggested search locations and mark them with a :rocker:!

Just kidding. I'll try to find a unique icon that's easy to see. Any suggestions?

How about a cross? To represent Michelle's necklace, hope that we find michelle and bring who's responsible to justice, and hope that one of our X's mark the spot! So my vote is for a cross

 

[Lark2]

We have a poster and I'm sorry I don't remember who it was, works for a cell co. They went in depth about the pings.

I'm hoping they are reading and can weigh in or someone else remembers who it is so we can find their posts.

I thought the pings were in a 3-5 mile radius of the tower in any direction.

ETA OK I found it for you post 657

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=7425354&highlight=cell+phone+pings#post7425354

Also, here's an expert on NG talking about the pings:

I want to go out to a special guest joining us, Larry Fishelson, telecom expert, founder and CEO of Dynalink Communications.

Larry, thank you for being with us. Larry, what does it mean that that same evening, 8:00 p.m., we get a ping off Michelle`s phone. It`s about seven miles north of where she lives in the vicinity of where the ex lives. The phone is powered down.

LARRY FISHELSON, TELECOMMUNICATION EXPERT, CO-FOUNDER AND COO OF DYNALINK COMMUNICATIONS: Yes, Nancy, pleasure of having me on. What you`re able to tell by that is the cell phone gets triangulated through to the three closest towers. And if you take the three closes towers and do a ping, you`ll be able to track that cell phone within a mile in an urban area, five miles max, and in a rural, remote area, so there was definitely a call made that we can be able to tell within that location for sure.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1111/28/ng.01.html

 

[TexasLil]

How about a cross? To represent Michelle's necklace, hope that we find michelle and bring who's responsible to justice, and hope that one of our X's mark the spot! So my vote is for a cross

Excellent Idea!!!! I've changed the suggested search areas to this...

Well the .gif won't work over here but I changed the icons to spinning crosses. Hopefully they don't change on my maps too.

 

[Lark2]

Also from the NG transcript, this expert says that the phone couldn't have "pinged" when it powered down, which would have marked its location. According to him, it had to ping because a text or phone call was sent. According to LE, the phone "powered down" (aka last pinged? at East Oakridge Road near the Jesse Black Saloon.

GRACE: Well, Mr. Fishelson, does it mean -- does your phone ping when you power it down? Could that have resulted in the ping?

FISHELSON: No. That would not have resulted in the ping. The ping was definitely made by a text and it`s 100 percent been able to be tracked by the phone provider carrier. So for sure there was a text placed at that location. Now the only thing is, do we know for sure who placed that text.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1111/28/ng.01.html

 

[Pias]

snipped for space.

Pias, can you help me with specifically where this is at?

Tia

28.476325, -81.443424.... sorry i noticed I may have given you the wrong one for the location you asked about, so just in case, I redid it.

 

[Butterfingers]

Would her phone ping if she had a incoming call from someone, maybe her son trying to get a hold of her??

 

[TexasLil]

I think I've gone back and added all the suggested search sights to the map. If I've missed any just poke :laugh: me (on no that's facebook)!

Just for clarity there are now two maps.

This one has all the past searches, hummer sightings , etc.

http://g.co/maps/jfcku

This one has everything in the above map PLUS the potential search areas suggested by our awesome WS members.

http://g.co/maps/r8w9u

 

[Sparky]

Would her phone ping if she had a incoming call from someone, maybe her son trying to get a hold of her??

Maybe this will help you.

FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #8 - Page 10 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

post 229

 

[nobodynoz]

Would her phone ping if she had a incoming call from someone, maybe her son trying to get a hold of her??

Thanks for asking that, Butterfingers. From reading the post that Sparky sited, I'm figuring that a cell phone pings:

• when you make a call or text from it,
  
• when a call or text is sent to it, and
  
• intermittently while the phone is on, whether or not messages are sent or received

If I'm mistaken, hope someone will let me know.