FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - # 2

[TheDuchess]

http://m.clickorlando.com/wap/news/...ith=0&title=Top+Stories&headtitle=Top+Stories

She apparently left her father a voicemail prior to her disappearance. So sad that all he has left right now is the ability to hear her voice.

 

[SmoothOperator]

Well this definitely puts a bit of a different lens on things.. According to CNN her new boyfriend, NM last spoke with Michelle AFTER she dropped off the kids..

Mitchell said he last had contact with Parker after she dropped off her 3-year-old twins at her ex-boyfriend’s home

http://nancygrace.blogs.cnn.com/2011/11/24/police-seek-info-on-missing-moms-necklace/?hpt=ng_mid

 

[Jersey*Girl]

http://m.clickorlando.com/wap/news/...ith=0&title=Top+Stories&headtitle=Top+Stories

She apparently left her father a voicemail prior to her disappearance. So sad that all he has left right now is the ability to hear her voice.

OMG this makes me teary eyed. I just wrote a book & lost it. Frustration is setting in so that's my sign to logoff.

 

[MonkeyMae]

http://m.clickorlando.com/wap/news/...ith=0&title=Top+Stories&headtitle=Top+Stories

She apparently left her father a voicemail prior to her disappearance. So sad that all he has left right now is the ability to hear her voice.

That article states she was last seen on Thursday AFTER dropping her twins off. I wonder if thats fact or mis-statement.

 

[Jersey*Girl]

I hope the perp that took Michelle chokes on a wishbone. :furious:

 

[Patty G]

Well this definitely puts a bit of a different lens on things.. According to CNN her new boyfriend, NM last spoke with Michelle AFTER she dropped off the kids..

http://nancygrace.blogs.cnn.com/2011/11/24/police-seek-info-on-missing-moms-necklace/?hpt=ng_mid

This came out the other day.

Parker's current boyfriend told CFNews13 that he received a text message from her around 3:15 that afternoon.

According to Nate Mitchell, the text said, "'A song came on the radio and I was thinking about you,' then I replied back with a smiley face and a heart."

Mitchell said he last had contact with Parker after she dropped off her 3-year-old twins at her ex-boyfriend's home. Court records indicate that the ex-boyfriend, Dale Smith, has a history of violence.

 

[Sparky]

OMG this makes me teary eyed. I just wrote a book & lost it. Frustration is setting in so that's my sign to logoff.

:hug:

 

[nativeSFL]

IMO, the family doesn't need any suggestions from the general public at this point as they have LE, and experts in the field of searching for missing people. What they need is prayers, support, and volunteers to help in all phases of trying to find Michele.

There are loads of other websites for people to put out suggestions rather then bogged down their Facebook page where they need so much more in finding Michelle.

I am not sure how much more they can possible say to the posters to not do this on their page without getting frustrated with some posters who just don't get it!

I agree that MP has experts trying desperately to find her & really don't need suggestions. I just think that ignoring the posters of suggestions would be more polite and a more efficient use of time (or just disable the wall for goodness sake). The snarky & rude replies just really don't give a very good impression & could potentially turn people off to even wanting to help in any fashion in the future, something that would not help her. A dear friend of mine knows MP as well & we were both in agreement that the comments on the FB page are unnecessary. And for the record, I am definitely not one of the suggestion posters! I also did not intend to get anyone angry here but by the snark I received, it appears I did. My apologies to Sparky if I angered her-I just wanted to share my observation, something that I found unusual after having seen many a missing person FB page. Moving along to a less snarky place....again, my apologies for having personally offended a friend of MP with my opinion.

 

[Sparky]

I agree that MP has experts trying desperately to find her & really don't need suggestions. I just think that ignoring the posters of suggestions would be more polite and a more efficient use of time (or just disable the wall for goodness sake). The snarky & rude replies just really don't give a very good impression & could potentially turn people off to even wanting to help in any fashion in the future, something that would not help her. A dear friend of mine knows MP as well & we were both in agreement that the comments on the FB page are unnecessary. And for the record, I am definitely not one of the suggestion posters! I also did not intend to get anyone angry here but by the snark I received, it appears I did. My apologies to Sparky if I angered her-I just wanted to share my observation, something that I found unusual after having seen many a missing person FB page. Moving along to a less snarky place....again, my apologies for having personally offended a friend of MP with my opinion.

Native you didn't anger me. I was only trying to point out this family is hurting and what does it really matter what is said on the FB page.

I'm sorry if you felt like I was being snarky. Not my intentions at all.

I think the most important thing is finding Michelle.

Again, if I came across snarky to you I apologize.

 

[Theforeigner]

Moo.. Moo.. Moo.. And more moo!!

But my feeling is that LE NOT CHOOSING TO TELL THE PUBLIC WHEN THE HUMMER LEFT DALE's is very likely quite telling IMO.. IMOO.. I feel if they were leaning towards whatever happened to Shelly occurring AFTER SHE LEFT DALE's that it would be important detail to get out to the public to know and pin down what was her very next location.. Meaning they'd give us the time that Shelly was leaving this neighborhood so that the locals in that area could recall better if they saw Shelly in that vicinity at/around that time that LE knows that Shelly left.. Does that make sense??

It does for me and I cannot make sense of with holding such an important time that they know Shelly left DALE's for the reasons ^above^.. That really leads me to believe LE does not need that info from the public due to their belief that Shelly never left Dales of her own free will(while this time would be extremely imperative to share with the public if they believed it was at A location/time AFTER HER LEAVING DALE's that she then met with foul play)

Thus again for me it goes back to Dale, who, if anyone he lived with, who, if anyone was at that condo at any point that afternoon/evening, what DALE's alibi is, and who, if anyone can verify said alibi.. In my not knowing any of thise ^above^ questions I'm looking at it from worst case scenario In that there is no one that was with Dale that afternoon/evening except for their 3Yr old twins.. And if that happens to be the case, tho 3 is extremely young, there being 2 3yr olds could easily mean ATLEAST one of them would be able to say what, if anything they witnessed(and not talking brutality) but more along the lines of did mommy come inside when she brought you to daddies?.. What did mommy say when she left?.. Very subtle questions like this could truly hold extremely huge answers to questions.. There are extremely appropriate individuals that know precisely how to ask these questions of these children without in any way traumatizing or re-traumatizing these children.. They are highly educated and trained in this specific sensitive area with young children..

Does anyone know if any of those details about Dale, his living arrangement, alibi, and/or Movements of that afternoon/evening and who, if anyone he was with?? I don't expect someone to have to relist all these details but rather if someone would just point me in the direction of where I might locate any of these details(link, website, previous thread, etc)..

TIA to anyone who could point me that way(if any of these answers are available anywhere)

CONCERNING DALE SMITH's ALIBI :

At the end of this news video at ca. 1:15 minutes:

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/Wo...ourt/-/1637132/4784264/-/9oio52z/-/index.html

Dale Smith's father seems to say:
" he was here the whole time she was supposed to be gone"...meaning, I suppose, that
" he (Dale Smith) was here (at his father house) the whole time she (Michelle parker) was upposed to be gone"
That would be from the time when Michelle left the kids at Dales house right? noone has seen her since right?

SO!... how come Dale Smith was at his fathers house?...did Dale, and the kids, leave Dale's house right after Michelle had delivered the kids, and went over to his fathers house?
OR, is it possible that Dale's father gave Dale a false alibi?

 

[New1]

I haven't been able to find what time it was when her son called his grandma looking for her, but I think we can lower the timeline of going missing to between 3:15 and the receipt of the apparent bogus text of Waterford at 4:?? to her brother ...... obviously that is jmo.

I, too, am wondering if her son tried to call her before he called his grandmother. Would seem the logical thing to do to me. Mothers stay in touch with their children by cell phone, so why would he call the grandmother first? Surely he had his mother's cell phone number.

 

[Patty G]

I agree that MP has experts trying desperately to find her & really don't need suggestions. I just think that ignoring the posters of suggestions would be more polite and a more efficient use of time (or just disable the wall for goodness sake). The snarky & rude replies just really don't give a very good impression & could potentially turn people off to even wanting to help in any fashion in the future, something that would not help her. A dear friend of mine knows MP as well & we were both in agreement that the comments on the FB page are unnecessary. And for the record, I am definitely not one of the suggestion posters! I also did not intend to get anyone angry here but by the snark I received, it appears I did. My apologies to Sparky if I angered her-I just wanted to share my observation, something that I found unusual after having seen many a missing person FB page. Moving along to a less snarky place....again, my apologies for having personally offended a friend of MP with my opinion.

Most of the missing persons Facebook pages out there are "generic" sites that are immediately started by one individual. IMO, rarely are the family members of the missing involved on these Facebook pages and perhaps this is why you haven't seen family members asking people to stop, because the family is not involved in these "generic" Facebook pages.

Example of typical Facebook: Find Joe Smith - Missing somewhere in USA

In fact, is appears that Michelle's Official Facebook page was having issues because of this "generic" Facebook page, and was trying to get fliers out to searchers and downloaded through their page rather then "promoting" the other "generic" Facebook page.

I would be really TICKED off, if someone that I didn't even know started a Facebook page if I had someone missing. I would want total control over the information that is being released to the public.

 

[cluciano63]

I hope the reason LE is quiet on details is because they are in command and know pretty much what happened to Michelle...(although they have not been able to find her.) But in so many cases, LE goes or stays quiet and many of us hope that it means an answer is forthcoming...and then nothing. I really hope this is not the case here...and that Michelle will be found soon. Then let the legal portion take over...JMO

 

[Jersey*Girl]

CONCERNING DALE SMITH's ALIBI :

At the end of this news video at ca. 1:15 minutes:

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/Wo...ourt/-/1637132/4784264/-/9oio52z/-/index.html

Dale Smith's father seems to say:
" he was here the whole time she was upposed to be gone"...meaning, I suppose, that
" he (Dale Smith) was here (at his father house) the whole time she (Michelle parker) was upposed to be gone"
That would be from the time when Michelle left the kids at Dales house right? noone has seen her since right?

SO!... how come Dale Smith was at his fathers house?...did Dale, and the kids, leave Dale's house right after Michelle had delivered the kids, and went over to his fathers house?
OR, is it possible that Dale's father gave Dale a false alibi?

Could it be possible that Dale and his father reside together?

 

[Jessicaleanne1992]

How many of you believe her being on tv has something to do with her dissapearance? Thoughts? Suicide? Abduction?

 

[Jersey*Girl]

I hope the reason LE is quiet on details is because they are in command and know pretty much what happened to Michelle...(although they have not been able to find her.) But in so many cases, LE goes or stays quiet and many of us hope that it means an answer is forthcoming...and then nothing. I really hope this is not the case here...and that Michelle will be found soon. Then let the legal portion take over...JMO

One of the reasons le chooses what information to release to the public is bc certain info needs to remain confidential so as it may only be linked to the perpetrator. For instance, there's a reason the jewelry Michelle was wearing on the 17th was just released. The wording used in the media was deliberate. Notice the media didn't say "pendant", they specifically said necklace. This makes me think that maybe (this is only hypothetical) her necklace was found, but the large rhinestone cross pendant is still out there somewhere. In which case, if le gets a call from somebody about a pendant looking like Michelle's being found or showing up, then they know where to go to question and further investigate.

 

[cluciano63]

One of the reasons le chooses what information to release to the public is bc certain info needs to remain confidential so as it may only be linked to the perpetrator. For instance, there's a reason the jewelry Michelle was wearing on the 17th was just released. The wording used in the media was deliberate. Notice the media didn't say "pendant", they specifically said necklace. This makes me think that maybe (this is only hypothetical) her necklace was found, but the large rhinestone cross pendant is still out there somewhere. In which case, if le gets a call from somebody about a pendant looking like Michelle's being found or showing up, then they know where to go to question and further investigate.

I do understand...but often LE does not even do that...in the case of Holly Bobo, they refuse to tell the public which of her items are still missing, which makes little sense to me. They won't say if her phone was found, or the other items they were initially searching for...so how would a person even know if they happened upon something of importance? I hope the LE in Michelle's case continues to ask the public for help...JMO

 

[Theforeigner]

Could it be possible that Dale and his father reside together?

Maybe, but the house seen with Dale's father , does NOT look like house I´v seen in videos of where Michelle left of the kids.
But sure I could be wrong.

 

[Janeumayer]

These are the only facts known to date:

• 3:15 p.m.: Video surveillance in an east Orange County neighborhood captured Parker driving to Dale Smith Jr.'s home to drop off their 3-year-old twins. Just minutes before she arrived, Parker and Smith, her ex-fiance, appeared in a previously taped episode of the "The People's Court" during which they argued about a lost $5,000 engagement ring.

She was wearing a silver-cross necklace — a detail revealed today for the first time — jeans and a Florida Gator's zip-up hoodie.

•4:26 p.m.: Parker's brother, Dustin Erickson, received a text message from his sister's iPhone suggesting that she was in the Waterford Lakes area, also on the county's east side.

•8 p.m.: Parker's iPhone 'pinged' in the area of Oakridge Road near Belle Isle, more than seven miles from where she was last seen. Her phone was powered down in that area and has not been recovered.

•The next day, police found Parker's H3 Hummer in the parking lot of Walden Palms Apartments, 4700 Walden Circle. Decals for her Glow mobile-tanning business had been removed from the windows. From there, the trail has gone cold.

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I would say and I'm only guessing here that the stickers was removed before the vehicle was moved to the location where the vehicle was later found. The search for that vehicle was well under way by that evening so whomever had it knew in order to dump it they couldn't be traveling with such a noticeable feature on display or they risked getting seen.

We are talking about 9 hours between when the vehicle vanished and it's recovery. That also tells a tale about how sought after this hummer was by the police and the public at large.

We cannot forget that the People's Court episode had ended at 3:00 pm. The ex had already watched the show by the time Michelle dropped the kids off. I am willing to bet Michelle did not leave that house alive. I think reliving the courtroom drama made the ex blow a fuse. JMOO

 

[Jersey*Girl]

I do understand...but often LE does not even do that...in the case of Holly Bobo, they refuse to tell the public which of her items are still missing, which makes little sense to me. They won't say if her phone was found, or the other items they were initially searching for...so how would a person even know if they happened upon something of importance? I hope the LE in Michelle's case continues to ask the public for help...JMO

I understand what you're saying and agree with you, but Holly Bobo's case is a bit different bc le is dealing with a possible questionable person in the family and another family member that may want to protect them, so le wouldn't be able to release certain info that's closer to home. Plus, it was just mentioned that turkey camo was worn by the person allegedly at fault for Holly's disappearance and she has an ex that frequentlly wore camo. So le is kinda stuck between a rock & a hard place there.

I agree, I think the age of technology should be used to a greater potential, especially with people willing to look up documents for free. Heck, most of the time we pull them faster than le. Crazy. Plus there's always somebody that knows somebody else, so it's frustrating sometimes that le doesn;t utilize that by releasing certain information.

They didn't release chit in HaLeigh Cummings' case and look where she's at...still missing. So yeah, I fdefinitely feel your frustration.

But... Le is the government, they think with their minds bc they need justice to be served or they failed at their jobs. We are civilians that think with our hearts, so of courst we want all the info available so we can find our loved ones, let the courts sort the rest out later. However, from le's standpoint, to sort it out later after so much was released to the public can backfire on them bc that info might be deemed inadmissable during trial, therefore allowing the perp to walk. So even though it's frustrating to us, le is only trying to do their jobs to secure a conviction when the time comes...whether that be tomorrow or 10 years from now, especially if they're dealing with the body instead of a live human being.

There was sooo much that couldn't be used in court against Casey. Look what happened. Imagine how much guilt the prosecutorial investigative team has to live with. They'll probably forever wonder coulda shoulda woulda. Poor cats. I love 'em all but losing a case to them is like a surgeon losing a patient during a routine surgery.