FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #22

[southern_comfort]

This MSN article says the twins were questioned by police, apparently around Nov. 29.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/45490...kids-returned-dad-tv-show-disappearance-case/

 

[Thor]

I was making reference to your statement (which I quoted in my post):




Now, my definition of a debate is two or more people arguing opposing sides.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/debate

Jmo, there should be no opposing sides here because we're all here for the same purpose. Discussion, yes, tho .

I was not talking about the dictionary definition of a debate ... when you think ... you debate yourself is to mean that you evaluate the pros and cons of an idea in your mind before possibly arriving to a conclusion, ... in other words ... in this sense "debate" is used as an euphemism of sort. Another example would be your mind "debating" the possibilities or "I'm debating whether I should make a right or left turn at the road head And I could go on and on ... but why are we having this discussion on semantics to begin with ... and what does it have to do with anything again?

 

[notmissing]

I was not talking about the dictionary definition of a debate ... when you think ... you debate yourself is to mean that you evaluate the pros and cons of an idea in your mind before possibly arriving to a conclusion, ... in other words ... in this sense "debate" is used as an euphemism of sort.

Spin spin...

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[notmissing]

Spin spin...

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I would like for this thread to be about Michelle again.

Where is Michelle?

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[Pias]

I suspect everyone knows what you meant, Thor. They are baiting you. My advice: Don't take it!

Could someone help me find my jaw? I seem to have lost it somewhere when it hit the floor.

 

[southern_comfort]

I'm sure this has been debated ad nauseum, but I keep pondering why Michelle's phone was seemingly tossed over the Nela bridge. Why not disable the phone before dumping it somewhere it would be unlikely to be found?

If the S family were in some way involved, why toss it en route between condo and house?

 

[Salem]

Knock it off in here.

Don't bait or tease where the meaning could be taken as rude. Don't address posts to victims, poi's or suspects. The discussion is here, so let's keep it here and keep it respectful, please.

Salem

I posted this earlier TODAY. I won't post anymore warnings. Don't bicker in here. If you are teasing, make sure everyone knows it - make the humor obvious - or it will be considered rude and snarky and your posting privileges will be suspended.

Last warning. Don't bicker.

Salem

 

[notmissing]

I'm sure this has been debated ad nauseum, but I keep pondering why Michelle's phone was seemingly tossed over the Nela bridge. Why not disable the phone before dumping it somewhere it would be unlikely to be found?

If the S family were in some way involved, why toss it en route between condo and house?

I agree. I think it was used for the text and calls to see how much longer they had. Then when the deal was done it was disabled and tossed out the window without much thought . Jmo

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[Thor]

I'm sure this has been debated ad nauseum, but I keep pondering why Michelle's phone was seemingly tossed over the Nela bridge. Why not disable the phone before dumping it somewhere it would be unlikely to be found?

If the S family were in some way involved, why toss it en route between condo and house?

The phone being tossed away and particularly at that location is problematic when measured against everything else ... the perp seems to have been quite methodical in getting rid of the evidence, so why toss the cell? Why not just power it down? I know this is very significant in some way but how? I was surprised when they recovered the phone but not the body, I would have thought the two would be at the same location ... so maybe having evidence scattered in more the one location would have been preferable? But why? The phone contents didn't seem to be incriminating, so again, why toss it? If one tosses something one could be spotted, not much of a chance with such a small object yes, but still a chance ... if one is en route to dispose of the body why take a chance? So again, why toss it? And why that location where it would later be recovered? Why is the body so competently disposed of but not the cell? Did he keep the cell after having disposed of the body so as to answer possible texts messages to avoid suspicions? But the "Waterford" text was sent at 4:26pm not nearly enough time for the perp to have had a chance to disposed of the body ... so why is the body over there and the cell over here? Where is the connection? Where is the logic? This perp didn't keep the phone separate from the rest for entertainment reason or to fumble around to read MP's messages, even simply opening an archived message leaves a record of it, somewhere deep in the OS every file been accessed is recorded ... so why take such a chance? Nothing about this perp indicates he takes unnecessary chances ... no clues, no evidence, no body ... nothing, so why does it toss the cell there? Why doe it toss the cell at all in a seemingly case of carelessness? What is happening at that very moment that makes him toss the cell?

I really suspect the cell been tossed there indicates a change of plan that was arrived at after the cell was tossed, or is a glitch in the original plan, with the former been more likely then the latter, either way and regardless I think the cell in the water is very significant in some way, I just haven't figure out how.
JMO

 

[Cblewife]

The phone being tossed away and particularly at that location is problematic when measured against everything else ... the perp seems to have been quite methodical in getting rid of the evidence, so why toss the cell? Why not just power it down? I know this is very significant in some way but how? I was surprised when they recovered the phone but not the body, I would have thought the two would be at the same location ... so maybe having evidence scattered in more the one location would have been preferable? But why? The phone contents didn't seem to be incriminating, so again, why toss it? If one tosses something one could be spotted, not much of a chance with such a small object yes, but still a chance ... if one is en route to dispose of the body why take a chance? So again, why toss it? And why that location where it would later be recovered? Why is the body so competently disposed of but not the cell? Did he keep the cell after having disposed of the body so as to answer possible texts messages to avoid suspicions? But the "Waterford" text was sent at 4:26pm not nearly enough time for the perp to have had a chance to disposed of the body ... so why is the body over there and the cell over here? Where is the connection? Where is the logic? This perp didn't keep the phone separate from the rest for entertainment reason or to fumble around to read MP's messages, even simply opening an archived message leaves a record of it, somewhere deep in the OS every file been accessed is recorded ... so why take such a chance? Nothing about this perp indicates he takes unnecessary chances ... no clues, no evidence, no body ... nothing, so why does it toss the cell there? Why doe it toss the cell at all in a seemingly case of carelessness? What is happening at that very moment that makes him toss the cell?

I really suspect the cell been tossed there indicates a change of plan that was arrived at after the cell was tossed, or is a glitch in the original plan, with the former been more likely then the latter, either way and regardless I think the cell in the water is very significant in some way, I just haven't figure out how.
JMO

BBM - and ALL JMO - I absolutely agree that at 4:26 when the Waterford text came in, the perp had not disposed (I hate that word in this context) of the body. I believe it was merely a monitoring/stall tactic, putting Michelle in a location she was never really at, thus buying MORE time when family and LE began their search. It's an extremely busy location and it would take some time to see if she was in fact in Waterford.

I think the logic in the body over there and the cell over here is also a stall tactic. A stall tactic in actually locating Michelle's body. The longer she is not found, the harder I would think it could be to determine a cause of death. If the phone is left on it creates an area that LE would search from pings. Toss the phone on and the chances of it being found are much greater I would think. Once the phone was found it gave LE an area to focus their attention and waste their time. I don't think it was careless at all.

 

[notmissing]

I hadn't considered this. That makes total sense!

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[Spice]

DSJr was a part time father at best. The children did not live with him for any length of time that they would remember and their home was with their mother, older brother and maternal family.

IMO, family is not just about biology. Those children were taken from their home and family and placed with DSJr because he is the biological parent. Adding insult to injury, his violent criminal past and suspect designation in the disappearance/likely death of the children's mother were not taken into consideration by the residing judge. I'll repeat once again that children are not possessions and decisions like this should not be made based on who the children "belong" to biologically.

DSJr is behaving like a petulant child in regards to those children and their ability to have contact with their maternal family. He IS using them as pawns because after weeks of no contact with those children and LE publicly naming him as a suspect, the family had the audacity to answer truthfully to reporter's questions about whether they were being given the opportunity to see them. Even after YS hugged him at that court hearing and pretty much begged him to keep the lines of communication open and let her see the children, he pretty much slammed that door in her face at the first opportunity.

So he's basically telling them that either they believe him and disregard what LE thinks or they don't see the children. Don't answer any questions regarding him in any media interviews and don't bring any public awareness to the fact that Michelle is still missing and he is still the prime suspect. Emotional blackmail. No surprise there. And if they behave then they might get to see the children...when it suits his purpose.

I can't even begin to wrap my head around what a mistake that judge made.

MOO

Best Post Ever.

 

[southern_comfort]

Is the lake where the phone was found a different lake from the one DSr was tooling around in his boat near the time when Michelle disappeared?

 

[Thor]

Is the lake where the phone was found a different lake from the one DSr was tooling around in his boat near the time when Michelle disappeared?

Yes it is ... don't have the time to double check the names of the two places right now, but I'm pretty sure.

 

[Skully]

Do you think LE watches his every move?

 

[Jazzmaster]

I've been away for a while...needed a bit more "me" time this summer.., Came out of retirement for a while since I can't see the grand kids...

I have been doing some writing, taking on some projects, and light web work but thought I'd check back in... Sometimes stepping away from a case for a few weeks can help you see things in a whole new light. I did have some time to talk with some detectives and forensic experts as well as a no body prosecutor...you can sure learn a lot from the experts...I even had some time to check out a few "prime" locations where Dale may have hidden Michelle. Also had time to review my case notes and interviews and screenshots along with Dale's social media activity before he deleted it...There was a mountain of info to review...a little Dale library so to speak.

THIS IS JMO: No matter how long I step away it keeps coming back to me that Dale Smith was hiding his homosexuality from others and Michelle was going to "out" him. He snapped and took things too far. He was jealous of the close relationship Michelle had with her family Brad and Gayle Parker and Yvonne and of course her brother and sister. Dale could never win Michelle's full affection and he tried to seek refuge with other men and women as a way to get back at her. One thing is clear to me Dale is a lying murderer who made a few too many mistakes trying to cover his tracks...Once he got a taste of killing he was willing to kill time and time again...a lifeguard, Shannon (no accident in my book), Michelle, who else is on that list Dale? How many other "secrets" do you hide and is that why you killed Michelle?

 

[Jazzmaster]

Yes it is ... don't have the time to double check the names of the two places right now, but I'm pretty sure.

Did you come up with a theory yet Thor on who else could've done it? All I have still points directly back to Dale...Any new insight?

 

[Jazzmaster]

Hey, I'm popping in again. I just want to say that Michelle Parker disappeared on the same day that a court TV show aired and that the last person to see her is the person who appeared on that show and opposed her. If that person is unrelated to her disappearance, it is the biggest coincidence I have ever heard of.

Lots of coincidences! Who ever made Michelle disappeared must also have known the routes Dale takes to his Dad's as all the "activity" followed Dale...Things that make you go hmmmmm. Dale is either one unlucky sob or a pretty damn good liar. I choose liar JMO

 

[notmissing]

Glad you're back jazz!

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[Coldpizza]

I admire your tenacity and conviction Jazz I agree with most of what you post and I do follow everyday.

One can only hope that LE has more info than we are privy to and updates become available from them soon.

I do find it a travesty that the twins have limited time with Michelle's family. In my mind DS et all are avoiding confrontation. They in no way should suffer but mark my words, in time the truth will yield answers to who their father really is.