FL FL - Orange Co., BlkFem 727UFFL, 17-20, w/ remains of Nancy Daniel, Jan'77

There's a police report that said Nancy Davis was last seen getting into a red car from a club called green parrot in paramore.

Mabel's brother's wife said Mabel was also known to visit the same club.

There's also an old article about that club and how celebrated it was once it got shut down. I know for almost certain that the same person killed them. I feel it's likely the person Nancy Davis was last seen with.

How do we get this info to be taken seriously?!? The police report states her brother is her twin. Then it states her SISTER is her twin. But in that SAME report is lists her sister dob as different than hers so how could they be twins?

I badly want to speak with whoever is handling this cold case. But will they even take it seriously now, when they didn't care about it back then?
 
There's a police report that said Nancy Davis was last seen getting into a red car from a club called green parrot in paramore.

Mabel's brother's wife said Mabel was also known to visit the same club.

There's also an old article about that club and how celebrated it was once it got shut down. I know for almost certain that the same person killed them. I feel it's likely the person Nancy Davis was last seen with.

How do we get this info to be taken seriously?!? The police report states her brother is her twin. Then it states her SISTER is her twin. But in that SAME report is lists her sister dob as different than hers so how could they be twins?

I badly want to speak with whoever is handling this cold case. But will they even take it seriously now, when they didn't care about it back then?
 
The family also believed that is mabel, same with Law Enforcement. Nancy and Mabel were both last seen getting into a car with a strange man outside the green parrot bay club. Nancy's sister said she (or someone, I can't recall) saw her get into a red car. That's who they should be looking into. But I bet they did NO detective work to even look into who that might have been. Now it's too many years too late. I also don't think they retained any dna, and the killer knew what they were doing. Back then they only id'd people via fingerprints so he removed her fingers. I don't think they have ANY dna, and I would be surprised if they retained any DNA. Does this jsne doe have a medical examiner on file?

My heart is broken for the family.

Not sure if I can mention, but looks like the daughter of Mabels sister replied to a reddit post about her.
 
Is she Mabel Andrews? Seems like the work of a serial killer. Any suspects?
This is absolutely Mabel Andrews. Both the family and Law Enforcement believe this is her. It is a very complicated case, and I believe the police made errors in retaining the DNA or something. They are being very vague as to why they can not rule Mabel out even though "DNA does not match". I have looked into this extensively but I dont know enough about DNA and the police and ME are purposely being vague in their answers.

Both girls were last seen leaving the green parrot bay club in Orlando. They were both last seen getting into a red car with an older male. Both were known to get rides from older men. I believe this is absolutely the case of a serial killer.

All it takes it a bit of detective work. Who was known to frewuent the club at that time with a red sportcar that would give rides to younger women.

I cant find it now, but there was an article in I believe the Orlando Sentinel when the club closed because it was infamous for its rough crowd. I wish this was taken more seriously...
 
I also believe this to be Mabel. For all the reasons it could be to include the shirt she is wearing in her photo and that found with the Jane Doe, seem to be very similar if not same to me.

The map below shows where the Jane Doe's body was found, at Lenox and Florence near Lake Mann. It also shows the highschool (Jones) where Mabel attended school, ~ 2.2 miles away, and the Parramore area (where Green Parrot was located) ~ 5 miles away from location of remains (I'm unclear of exact address of Green Parrot).
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Additionally including a 1998 article on the impending closure of The Green Parrot:

OWNER OF PARRAMORE'S GREEN PARROT FEARS CITY WILL CLOSE BAR'S DOORS
By Dan Tracy of The Sentinel Staff
Orlando Sentinel

May 23, 1998 at 12:00 am

The Green Parrot bar, its stucco and wood walls painted to reflect its name, has been serving up beer and wine in the downtrodden Parramore area for 40 years.

It has survived segregation, construction of the looming East-West Expressway and even three killings since 1995.

But Orlando wants to shut down the family-owned business in the small, un-air-conditioned building surrounded by a dirt parking lot.

The Green Parrot, city officials contend, does not fit into plans they have for the area. The city plans to spend nearly $1 million buying and remodeling a 30-unit apartment complex and two vacant buildings across Parramore Avenue from the bar.

After that work is complete - the date is uncertain - the Green Parrot would be a bad influence on the neighborhood, city officials contend.

"We're trying to make it a desirable area" in which to live, said Leila Allen, the city's housing and community development bureau chief.

So the city has contacted the owner of the building leased by the Green Parrot to see whether he would be willing to sell.

The city hasn't gotten a reply. A representative of the owner, Rood Investment Co. of Orlando, could not be reached.

But the Green Parrot owner, Evelyn Simmons, fears her bar less than a block from the East-West is as good as closed.

"I really don't know what I'm going to do," said Simmons, a single mother of two. "I don't want to become a [welfare) recipient."

If the city buys the Green Parrot building, Simmons could be paid up to $20,000 in relocation costs, the standard city offer for disrupting a business.

But she doubts the Green Parrot can move anywhere else in the Parramore area - just west of downtown and Interstate 4 - because there are so many churches nearby.

By city law, a bar cannot be opened within 1,500 feet of a church.

Although three people have been killed at the bar or close by during the past three years, including one in March, Simmons said the Green Parrot is not a dangerous place.

"Any bar is going to have problems," she said. "It doesn't matter where you go."

Orlando Police Sgt. Jeff Goltz agrees, saying officers often respond to calls for assistance at the Green Parrot, but "it's just like any other bar in town."

Simmons, 41, has owned the Green Parrot for 10 years, taking over from her mother, Sally Ward, who ran it for three decades. Ward's picture adorns one of the bar's walls.

Simmons' brother and Ward's son, Larry Simmons, used to run the Dixie Doodle - one of the two empty buildings across from the Green Parrot the city intends to buy - until it was closed in 1994 after a spate of well-publicized violence. Larry Simmons now is a furniture maker and church deacon.

Despite the three unrelated killings, the Green Parrot has not gained the reputation of the Dixie Doodle, which was immersed in drug dealing.

The city was moving to close the bar as a public health nuisance before the building's owner revoked the lease.

Evelyn Simmons considers her bar a haven where the working poor who live in the area can walk in, have a drink and relax. A bottle of beer costs as little as $1.25.

"These people," she said, "have nowhere else to go."
 
Jennifer is still the only exclusion for Jane Doe as of November 2023.

I hope genetic genealogy is being conducted on this girl because the similarities with Mabel Andrews is mind-blowing
A recent @othram solve was ruled out as himself by CODIS before being identified - so I suppose it's still possible it's Mabel.
 
the similarities are so on the nose. The nostril defect on both mabel and this doe, the pinky toe defect also present on both mabel and jane doe. Mabel was last seen visiting her grandmother in Paramore. She frequenteded the same club that Nancy did which was the jane doe found next to this jane doe. If it isn't her I will eat my hat.

I am also pretty sure that the shirt the jane doe is wearing is the same shirt that is in the photograph of mabel andrews.

I have spoken with Mabel's family. They truly believe this is her.

@othram I really hope you can look into this and give their family some closure.
 
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A recent @othram solve was ruled out as himself by CODIS before being identified - so I suppose it's still possible it's Mabel.
Yes, the thread for that person, I also suggested him and was told the DNA did not match. I think this is more common that we realize.

The answer regarding the dna lies in the response from Ashley O Shaughnessy. She was vague, but the answer lies in the extraction or type of DNA they have on file. I did so much digging into this.

Interesting fact: Her brother was the first person ever to be incarcerated based on DNA evidence so it was still fairly new.
 

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