FL - Ryan Rogers, 14, fatally stabbed, Palm Beach Gardens, 16 Nov 2021 *Arrest*

[wildebeest]

Agreed! The whole thing is very bizarre. From the beginning, the account of the disappearance didn’t make sense to me. Sadly, my first thought was he went out to meet someone <modsnip> and something went wrong. Hope LE has something to say tomorrow.

 

[cujenn81]

Ryan Rogers: Gardens police rule death of missing teen a homicide, no comment on cause

"We can say with almost absolute certainty that this was not a hit-and-run incident," Palm Beach Gardens Police Maj. Paul Rogers said.

"There's a lot of missing parts in this investigation that we are trying to get the public's help in filling in," Rogers said. "We're really pushing hard for anyone with any information — no tip is too big or too small — to call our police department, so we can follow up on that tip and put this case to rest."

Rogers declined to give any further details, such as the approximate time the boy died, because "it's a critical piece of the investigation." He added that he couldn't be too specific until the police have a suspect in custody.

 

[Strange75!]

“A critical piece of the investigation.” ^^


This looks like it’s heading in a direction that seems so hard to believe.

 

[evilwise]

Was it maybe a stunt gone bad and the other actors fled?

 

[ShrimpCeviche]

I believe LE are keeping the time of his death a secret because it would confirm he did not die where he was found. I believe it happened at home or with someone he knew and his body and bike were placed in that location to make it appear accidental. <modsnip - accusing someone who has not been implicated by LE is not allowed>

 

[SweetCrabs]

I'm not sure where the speculation that he was going to play basketball or meet someone emerged. We don't have gang problems here. I don't think locals believe that he was meeting a stranger there. <modsnip - reference to social media> And as for the bike flipping? This is a flat area of a flat state, and those paths are maintained. How fast would have had to be going, and what would he have hit on the path to "flip" a bike and then end up dead?

 

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[evilwise]

Was he maybe found at the bottom of a steep hill that he could have been going crazy fast down? Maybe there's video of him riding his bike recklessly and there is evidence that he made contact with a vehicle who's driver then fled the scene. That could explain the incogruencies between the ME's official conclusion and how a freshly grieving family is processing it.

 

[SweetCrabs]

Was he maybe found at the bottom of a steep hill that he could have been going crazy fast down? Maybe there's video of him riding his bike recklessly and there is evidence that he made contact with a vehicle who's driver then filed the scene. That could explain the incogruencies between the ME's official conclusion and how a freshly grieving family is processing it.

No. No hills, steep or otherwise. Flat as flat can be. And clear. No debris or downed trees. No cameras. It's really, really dark in that one spot at night. It's one of the darkest areas on that road, especially between midnight and 6AM. It would be very possible to leave a body there and not be seen in the middle of the night. Between 6:30 and 7, there's regular traffic. It's a busy road. Someone would have seen something. It's one reason that the story doesn't add up to people who drive the road every day and live here.

 

[PayrollNerd]

In Florida, it is law that a child under 16 wear a helmet. I don’t see anything in MSM that says he was or wasn’t wearing one. I don't know about lights on a bicycle but that would be common sense from dusk onward. If it was routine for him to ride after dark, he may have had the reflectors, lights and other safety features as the bike was relatively new, or new to him anyway.

He was a strong healthy young boy from all appearances, so he could probably pedal pretty fast. If he was on his phone while riding or was being chased by someone, he could have easily lost control, crashed into a tree or barrier, rolled, etc. That doesn’t necessarily mean it was an accident tho. A perp could have caught up with him and that interaction could have led to his death.

 

[SweetCrabs]

In Florida, it is law that a child under 16 wear a helmet. I don’t see anything in MSM that says he was or wasn’t wearing one. I don't know about lights on a bicycle but that would be common sense from dusk onward. If it was routine for him to ride after dark, he may have had the reflectors, lights and other safety features as the bike was relatively new, or new to him anyway.

He was a strong healthy young boy from all appearances, so he could probably pedal pretty fast. If he was on his phone while riding or was being chased by someone, he could have easily lost control, crashed into a tree or barrier, rolled, etc. That doesn’t necessarily mean it was an accident tho. A perp could have caught up with him and that interaction could have led to his death.

Imagine a really busy, trafficky though-road that all the locals near you travel all the time to get to major places. Now imagine all that happening at a really busy time within feet of the cars and no one seeing a thing or stopping and then no one coming forward after it's been in the local news for a week. And mind you, there are no bikes on this road after dark, ever, per several people here on this site and everyone who lives here. So it would have stuck out to even see one bike let alone one racing, crashing or being chased.

 

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[SweetCrabs]

Police are back at the scene now. For people who want to see the area, a reporter from WPTV has posted video of the detectives and the street here:

https://twitter.com/HughesWPTV/status/1463542516997890053?t=4QU6NLldjyIAr0V4hxq0Tw&s=09

 

[Strange75!]

Police are back at the scene now. For people who want to see the area, a reporter from WPTV has posted video of the detectives and the street here:

https://twitter.com/HughesWPTV/status/1463542516997890053?t=4QU6NLldjyIAr0V4hxq0Tw&s=09

That is strange. In the video it looks like two of the people have hoodies up and face coverings as if trying to not disclose their identity.

 

[kinder]

IMHO, I feel like LE needs to offer a significant reward for information that leads to an arrest or something. Like sooner rather than later, IMHO.

 

[SweetCrabs]

That is strange. In the video it looks like two of the people have hoodies up and face coverings as if trying to not disclose their identity.

It's actually "Florida freezing" here today. I don't think it's hit 70 yet, it's still a little breezy, and I'm in a hoodie bundled up in the house. It could be that they're just cold. Hard to tell if the they're wearing gaiters over their faces. A lot of LE do that rather than wearing masks here. I don't know.

 

[kinder]

REWARD ISSUED FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT - $8,000 + $5,000 = $13,000
https://twitter.com/PBGPD/status/1463583958957010946

 

[PayrollNerd]

REWARD ISSUED FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT - $8000
https://twitter.com/PBGPD/status/1463583958957010946

I don’t have a Twitter account to go copy the police statement. Here is a screenshot tho.

 

[jenderson]

https://mobile.twitter.com/AndrewLofholm/status/1463584770278019078
the reward is $8k not $13k according to this thread. It appears as though $3k is from crime stoppers and $5k from local fire and police. This seems low to me either way.

 

[Cle2002]

Anyone see the plane circling Alton / PBG right now? I wonder why? Could it be related??