FL - Sarah Boone, 42, charged with murdering boyfriend Jorge Torres, 42, by leaving him locked in suitcase, Winter Park, Feb 2020 #2

[arielilane]

I can't wrap my mind around SB's rejection of plea deal offer of 15 years minus time served. She's been jailed about four years, so she' be sentenced to 11 years prison. With good behavior she could be released after about 80% time served, about 8 to 9 years. I can't see a jury treating her so well. opinion only

It's mind boggling. moo

 

[Megnut]

It's mind boggling. moo

But we're not as smart as SB.

What? Take a plea deal and it (the sentence) just starts? And avoid All This? Are you kidding? She LIVES for this. All the attention on her. On her and her shapely figure. Unless I miss my guess, she will miss all this when it's over.

(I don't delude myself. She'll write letters, draft motions, collect contraband, be an irritant all her days but the trial? She'll miss that attention.)

JMO

 

[arielilane]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1847017102508486972

 

[Izzylizzy]

 

[Izzylizzy]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1847017102508486972

What? lol
And if she wasn't okay with her lawyer or jurors then what?

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

What? lol
And if she wasn't okay with her lawyer or jurors then what?

She always has the legal right to dismiss her lawyer but not the jurors. If she fired Owens then she'd have to go it alone through trial.

Re the jurors, SB does have a right to speak out in certain circumstances - for example if she recognised one of them from her life somehow, that would always result in them being dismissed if it were correct.

 

[Megnut]

Plus he got in the record, she's pleased as punch, no issues with jury selection or her stellar counsel.

Judge holds fast to the rule of law, IMO he misses nothing.

JMO

 

[sasha17]

What? lol
And if she wasn't okay with her lawyer or jurors then what?

I think the judge just wants on record that she is satisfied with her attorneys and with the jury. If (when?) she appeals the verdict, she won't be able to claim that she was unhappy with jury selection or with her attorneys at this point.

 

[Chelly]

The jury consists of six primary jurors and eight alternate jurors. Opening statements are expected to begin Friday morning at 9 a.m. The trial is expected to last at least three weeks.

Sarah Boone trial: Jury selected in Winter Park suitcase murder trial

A jury has been selected and sworn-in in the trial against Sarah Boone, the Florida woman accused of killing her boyfriend, Jorge Torres, in Feb. 2020 by locking him inside a suitcase during an apparent drunken game of hide-and-seek inside their Winter Park apartment.

www.fox35orlando.com

 

[Izzylizzy]

I think the judge just wants on record that she is satisfied with her attorneys and with the jury. If (when?) she appeals the verdict, she won't be able to claim that she was unhappy with jury selection or with her attorneys at this point.

I just found it strange especially asking about the jurors.
Unless she walks we know they'll be an appeal but thankfully she'll need a hell of a lot more for it to be granted then she wasn't satisfied with her lawyers or jury.
I'm curious how the judge would have handled it had she said she wasn't satisfied.

 

[Megnut]

I just found it strange especially asking about the jurors.
Unless she walks we know they'll be an appeal but thankfully she'll need a hell of a lot more for it to be granted then she wasn't satisfied with her lawyers or jury.
I'm curious how the judge would have handled it had she said she wasn't satisfied.

I think he might have asked for cause. To which she'd sputter. And he'd adjudicate accordingly.

I'm glad we cleared that hurdle.

Jmo

 

[cujenn81]

I've realised who Owens reminds me of...

Leslie Jordan playing Karen's friend Beverley in Will & Grace!

Totally!

 

[sasha17]

The jury consists of six primary jurors and eight alternate jurors. Opening statements are expected to begin Friday morning at 9 a.m. The trial is expected to last at least three weeks.

Sarah Boone trial: Jury selected in Winter Park suitcase murder trial

A jury has been selected and sworn-in in the trial against Sarah Boone, the Florida woman accused of killing her boyfriend, Jorge Torres, in Feb. 2020 by locking him inside a suitcase during an apparent drunken game of hide-and-seek inside their Winter Park apartment.

www.fox35orlando.com

The Richardson hearing on the discovery issues is scheduled for tomorrow at 9am, so they must be planning to go into opening statements as soon as that finishes. Looking forward to it!

 

[Seattle1]

From Peter's episode -- we have description by the prosecutor of the two videos beginning at the 40 and 42 min markers:


40:16
years this is the state's case a video that's so here we go this
40:22
is the state's case this is his mini opening statement right here so take a list listen and see if you hear any
40:28
facts that we haven't heard before this is the state's
40:33
case a video that starts at 11:12 45 p.m. on Feb 23
40:41
2020 Sarah for everything you've done to me
40:47
Sarah for everything you've done to me Sarah F you
40:53
laughter Sarah f you laughter Sarah
41:01
stupid Sarah that's my name don't wear it out Sarah I can't effing breathe baby
41:10
seriously yeah that's what you do when you choke me Sarah
41:17
Sarah Sarah laughter Sarah I can't breathe babe
41:24
laughter that's on you Sarah I can't breathe laughter that's on
41:31
you Sarah unintelligible drunken slurred words
41:36
laughter Sarah unintelligible drunken slurred words might not be something he can say in front of the jury um until
41:43
after I guess she testifies that she was in fact drunk what's interesting is I saw somebody in the chat
41:51
say he should be slurring his words for emphasis right as he said that so he he is letting the judge know exactly how
41:57
this sounds I'm sure the judge has already seen and heard it but this is good narration there have been some things I like and didn't like about his
42:03
presentation and his arguments I thought this was effective Sarah Sarah I can't breathe
42:11
baby that's what I feel like when you cheat on me Sarah F you I can't eff and breathe
42:19
Sarah you should probably shut the f up Sarah
42:28
that's our case that is an evinced depraved mind conscious disregard for
42:34
whether he lives or dies whether she put him in there or not she she let him
42:41
remain for two minutes during that video and then at 11233 p.m. there's another
42:48
22 second video and it just Zooms in on the suitcase
42:54
Sarah so that is a second degree murder case when the medical examiner comes in and says Jorge Torres George Torres died
43:02
from positional asphixiation and the asphixiation from being in a confined space and
43:08
eventually after Lord knows how many breaths he expired in that suitcase when
43:13
she went upstairs and went to bed but in addition to those statements we now have her new statements which are she
43:20
intentionally violently shook the suitcase threw it upside down hit it with a bat hit him with a bat committed
43:27
independent forcible felonies and that's going to be corroborated by the medical examiner's testimony to all the blunt
43:34
force trauma to both sides of his face and his
43:39
mouth now I don't know if this was just a pattern of his verbiage or if I'm
43:44
reading too much into this but it sounded like he said hit him with a bat and he had blunt force trauma to
43:52
both sides of his face and his mouth we heard about some of that Sarah

 

[aafromaa]

I’m behind but watched the motions hearing from this morning (Thurs) and am a little confused on the battered spouse defense and the overt act and self defense. If I’m following correctly, battered spouse defense is a self defense and that an overt act is required.

I think the victim reaching his fingers/hand out of a suitcase he’s been zipped up in is pretty weak for an overt act but putting that aside for the moment…

How can leaving someone zipped inside a suitcase for 12 hours be self defense? It seems more like torture to me. Doesn’t self defense require a reasonable and proportional response? I could understand a wife shooting her husband as he comes toward her in a rage or something and I do understand that there is no duty to retreat in a battered spouse defense. But Torres was contained so didn’t she have an obligation to call LE rather than leaving him there to die a slow death after hitting him with a baseball bat?

I don’t buy that she was in fear of him coming after her when he got out or she wouldn’t have gone to bed. I don’t yet know if she actually thought he would die or not - but doesn’t claiming battered spouse/self defense require her to admit that she intended for him to die? Or can she claim self-defense while also saying his death was an accident and that she thought he was crying wolf when he said he couldn’t breathe?

I really think using the battered spouse/self defense has done her more harm than good and I don’t see any way a jury will buy it.

 

[srper2]

Feed is live. Sarah coming in shackled at the waist, looking quite snug and proud of herself. Two piece suit, skirt. Pretending to be a lawyer today.

Star of her own soap opera. Victim who? Sarah is all Sarah.

JMO

Dressed like a lawyer from an 80's tv drama....

 

[srper2]

I’m behind but watched the motions hearing from this morning (Thurs) and am a little confused on the battered spouse defense and the overt act and self defense. If I’m following correctly, battered spouse defense is a self defense and that an overt act is required.

I think the victim reaching his fingers/hand out of a suitcase he’s been zipped up in is pretty weak for an overt act but putting that aside for the moment…

How can leaving someone zipped inside a suitcase for 12 hours be self defense? It seems more like torture to me. Doesn’t self defense require a reasonable and proportional response? I could understand a wife shooting her husband as he comes toward her in a rage or something and I do understand that there is no duty to retreat in a battered spouse defense. But Torres was contained so didn’t she have an obligation to call LE rather than leaving him there to die a slow death after hitting him with a baseball bat?

I don’t buy that she was in fear of him coming after her when he got out or she wouldn’t have gone to bed. I don’t yet know if she actually thought he would die or not - but doesn’t claiming battered spouse/self defense require her to admit that she intended for him to die? Or can she claim self-defense while also saying his death was an accident and that she thought he was crying wolf when he said he couldn’t breathe?

I really think using the battered spouse/self defense has done her more harm than good and I don’t see any way a jury will buy i

This is so convoluted.

Sarah said she thought he could get out, because of the two finger zipper gap. So his death was unintentional.

But now the Defense is saying that his fingers at the zipper triggered BSS and was the overt act for which self-defense comes in.

My head is on backwards.

JMO

Considering she beat his fingers with a bat when he tried to put them out. By the blunt force injuries described he was also beated all over with something before dying.

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

Court TV re SB being denied snacks

 

[Izzylizzy]

From Peter's episode -- we have description by the prosecutor of the two videos beginning at the 40 and 42 min markers:


40:16
years this is the state's case a video that's so here we go this
40:22
is the state's case this is his mini opening statement right here so take a list listen and see if you hear any
40:28
facts that we haven't heard before this is the state's
40:33
case a video that starts at 11:12 45 p.m. on Feb 23
40:41
2020 Sarah for everything you've done to me
40:47
Sarah for everything you've done to me Sarah F you
40:53
laughter Sarah f you laughter Sarah
41:01
stupid Sarah that's my name don't wear it out Sarah I can't effing breathe baby
41:10
seriously yeah that's what you do when you choke me Sarah
41:17
Sarah Sarah laughter Sarah I can't breathe babe
41:24
laughter that's on you Sarah I can't breathe laughter that's on
41:31
you Sarah unintelligible drunken slurred words
41:36
laughter Sarah unintelligible drunken slurred words might not be something he can say in front of the jury um until
41:43
after I guess she testifies that she was in fact drunk what's interesting is I saw somebody in the chat
41:51
say he should be slurring his words for emphasis right as he said that so he he is letting the judge know exactly how
41:57
this sounds I'm sure the judge has already seen and heard it but this is good narration there have been some things I like and didn't like about his
42:03
presentation and his arguments I thought this was effective Sarah Sarah I can't breathe
42:11
baby that's what I feel like when you cheat on me Sarah F you I can't eff and breathe
42:19
Sarah you should probably shut the f up Sarah
42:28
that's our case that is an evinced depraved mind conscious disregard for
42:34
whether he lives or dies whether she put him in there or not she she let him
42:41
remain for two minutes during that video and then at 11233 p.m. there's another
42:48
22 second video and it just Zooms in on the suitcase
42:54
Sarah so that is a second degree murder case when the medical examiner comes in and says Jorge Torres George Torres died
43:02
from positional asphixiation and the asphixiation from being in a confined space and
43:08
eventually after Lord knows how many breaths he expired in that suitcase when
43:13
she went upstairs and went to bed but in addition to those statements we now have her new statements which are she
43:20
intentionally violently shook the suitcase threw it upside down hit it with a bat hit him with a bat committed
43:27
independent forcible felonies and that's going to be corroborated by the medical examiner's testimony to all the blunt
43:34
force trauma to both sides of his face and his
43:39
mouth now I don't know if this was just a pattern of his verbiage or if I'm
43:44
reading too much into this but it sounded like he said hit him with a bat and he had blunt force trauma to
43:52
both sides of his face and his mouth we heard about some of that Sarah

It was brutal listening to Peter read that.
SB is inhumane and has been treated like "The Princess and the Pea".

 

[Izzylizzy]

Plus he got in the record, she's pleased as punch, no issues with jury selection or her stellar counsel.

Judge holds fast to the rule of law, IMO he misses nothing.

JMO

So far, eh? lol