GUILTY FL - Sarah Boone, 42, charged with murdering boyfriend Jorge Torres, 42, by leaving him locked in suitcase, Winter Park, Feb 2020 #3

[Megnut]

Defense says they need another three hour deposition of this witness, on a count of her forming opinions without submitting another report.

Owens is reading random pages from when the State, the Defense, SB and the doctor met for 2.5 hours on October 2.

Judge is trying to get him to substantiate his "nonobjection that became an objection".

Judge, "And what are your legal grounds of your objection?"

Owens, "I don't know that I have legal grounds but we (with the State) had an agreement..."

 

[I am not Sherlock H.]

Anyone else think that the criminal psychologist who testified for the defense yesterday (who met with SB 9 times) and ultimately assessed that SB had PTSD and not a personality disorder was totally hoodwinked by SB?

Interesting thought @RealForReal ….. and can’t disagree. But at the same time, also wonder if maybe this was just a hired expert asked to render an opinion. A certain opinion perhaps? For the defense?

There is that old adage frequently used in legal circuits: ‘you can get a grand jury to indict a ham sandwich’. Well IMO, that just might work both ways. Just insert hired expert, opinion, and whatever description is apt. IANAL. SMH. MOO

 

[arielilane]

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[arielilane]

@StephBuffamonte

Court has resumed in the suitcase murder trial. The defense will rest its case after #SarahBoone's attorney introduces its last piece of evidence. Then, the state will rebuttal for several hours.

The entire left side of the courtroom gallery have sheets on the benches that say "reserved"... so far I see the two deputies who interrogated #SarahBoone back in 2020 sitting there.

The no-contact orders issued against Jorge Torres in 2019 were passed to each juror/alternate for them to read. Each juror/alternate took the time to read the documents and passed it to person sitting next to them. The defense rested its case following that.

 

[Megnut]

State expected witness to testify that, according to SB, they were laughing and joking and having a good time when she zipped him into the suitcase. And they were still laughing and having a good time... until she got angry...

So zipping him into the suitcase WAS NOT self-defense.

(Jury is still out. Owens is still trying to find a LEGAL objection.)

JMO

 

[Megnut]

IANAL but I think Owens is supposed to ask the judge to strike the answer...

But maybe Owens doesn't know that.

JMO

 

[nodamselindistress]

IANAL but I think Owens is supposed to ask the judge to strike the answer...

But maybe Owens doesn't know that.

JMO

That was my thought, as well. Just strike and now that she knows, she will answer in line with her depo answers.

Not sure if the witness is trying to pull a fast one or if the prosecution is, but I was a bit suspicious of their attempt to get SB to zipper up the suitcase w/o a paper clip pull.

 

[sasha17]

State expected witness to testify that, according to SB, they were laughing and joking and having a good time when she zipped him into the suitcase. And they were still laughing and having a good time... until she got angry...

So zipping him into the suitcase WAS NOT self-defense.

(Jury is still out. Owens is still trying to find a LEGAL objection.)

JMO

He says he wants to read through the entire 88 page transcript first! Good grief.

 

[Megnut]

Can Owens phone a friend?

This delay is preposterous.

 

[sasha17]

Can Owens phone a friend?

This delay is preposterous.

Owens, on his original objection that started this whole delay: "I know I objected. I can't even remember it now, but I know I objected."

 

[Megnut]

I think Owens just said he couldn't remember now why he objected, just that he knows he had a reason.

This is cringy.

JMO

 

[Izzylizzy]

If I understand violence and PTSD correctly PTSD develops from experiencing violence and/or witnessing violence.
SB has a history of being violent with BB before meeting JT so if she actually does have PTSD she brought it on herself by her own continued violent behavior.

 

[I am not Sherlock H.]

IMO I am beginning to ask questions about the defense counsel, the judge, and the prosecution team?

Is someone unclear on how to lodge an objection, provide grounds, and for the judge / court to then render judgement on the objection? Either sustain or overrule it. And is another unclear on the rules of evidence? SMH. IANAL.

Beginning to see grounds for a mistrial at this rate. MOO

 

[Wishbone]

I may be wrong, but what I think I heard from the witness is even if SB had ptsd SB wasn't showing any of the effects of it when she left JT in the suitcase?

 

[Megnut]

Here's where we're at. The new witness has been called by the State to make this point:

By her own narration, SB did not zip JT into the suitcase in self-defense, regardless of any diagnosis, irrelevant to any diagnosis.

We were laughing and having a good time.

Her anger came later.

But we can't get there because there's an open objection on the record, that Owens can't seem to articulate.

JMO

 

[sasha17]

I may be wrong, but what I think I heard from the witness is even if SB had ptsd SB wasn't showing any of the effects of it when she left JT in the suitcase?

My understanding was SB had some PTSD characteristics during the doctor's interview with her at the jail, but not enough to diagnose her with PTSD. However, the doctor wasn't sure if these characteristics were present on the suitcase day or if they developed later due to an adjustment problem while she's been incarcerated.

 

[Megnut]

This delay is exactly what I feared if SB had to defend herself pro se.

 

[nodamselindistress]

Like I said it can be cleared up on cross. Owens finally realized this.

 

[arielilane]

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[Megnut]

Oh, boy. Court moves to a discovery violation hearing.

Conducts hearing swiftly.

Finds it wasn't intentional.

Finds basically that the witness can't offer any new opinions.

Finds there may be damage to the defense due to the unintential discovery violation.

Judge finally asks DO YOU WANT IT STRUCK?

Owens, no.

Judge, incredulous, no strike, no instruction?

Owens, no. He'll address it on cross.

Owens is now querying the witness directly. Out of the presence of the jury.