GUILTY FL - Sarah Boone, 42, charged with murdering boyfriend Jorge Torres, 42, by leaving him locked in suitcase, Winter Park, Feb 2020 #3

[sasha17]

Owens started to say "battered spouse syndrome" and then corrected himself to say "battered woman syndrome". Very intentional wording there.

 

[jepop]

State gets on the record that every action a person with BSS does is because of BSS and not every action is justified.

Typo? Is not always? because of BSS right?
Ebm added the word always

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

This is so confusing and perhaps that's what defense wanted to present.
This poor witness.
The trial is exhausting.
Is anyone really fighting for Justice for Jorge Torres?

No, currently nobody is fighting for justice for JT IMO

In typical Narc & Cluster B fashion, an entire court room of smoke & mirrors and deflections, denials and DARVO (Deny And Reverse Victim & Offender) has been created.

Everyone is so lost in the Cluster B Circus they've lost their bearings. This is what happens when you agree to take a seat at the circus.

State should have said no thanks not today and pushed back hard. Instead they're now several levels deep into nonsense minutiae of a Syndrome that can't even be diagnosed because it's not defined by medicine or law.

 

[sasha17]

I'm struggling to understand why this doctor is a state's witness. It seems like everything she's saying is in support of Sarah. The doctor clearly said she believes Sarah had BSS. How is this helpful for the state?

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

I'm struggling to understand why this doctor is a state's witness. It seems like everything she's saying is in support of Sarah. The doctor clearly said she believes Sarah had BSS. How is this helpful for the state?

Zero helpful because we currently have no evidence whatsoever that JT was attacking SB.

We do have plenty of evidence that SB was violent to JT and her ex husband.

If I were a medical professional, I'd want to know that my diagnosis was based on fact.

 

[Megnut]

I'm struggling to understand why this doctor is a state's witness. It seems like everything she's saying is in support of Sarah. The doctor clearly said she believes Sarah had BSS. How is this helpful for the state?

No one seems to know who's on whose side?

When you argue with a fool, spectators can't tell the difference.

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

Maybe they're all just very aware that SB is going down for life and this is a sort of performance for a week or two?

 

[I am not Sherlock H.]

This is tedious. IMO aren’t some of these questions by defense counsel asked and answered? Has again asked if SB has or suffers from PTSD it seems fro this witness?

There was a posted comment on Law & Crime that defense might have opened the door again with this witness to prior acts of SB with her former husband - since question was asked about past events with the husband. MOO

 

[Seattle1]

IMO State should have pushed back harder against the introduction of BS into the courtroom.

It's not a stand alone defense -- In Florida, it's only allowed as self-defense if it meets certain criteria.

On March 1999, Florida’s Supreme Court effectively granted Florida women the ability to rely upon battered spouse syndrome as a defense to killing their abuser. Prior to the court’s decision in Weiand v. State, 732 So. 2d 1044 (Fla. 1999), an abused woman’s ability to justifiably defend herself from a physically abusive husband or live-in boyfriend was no greater than that of anyone to defend themselves in a bar fight.

To justify homicide under any claim of self defense, a defendant must establish the presence of three elements: 1) the defendant believed she must use force against an imminent threat of harm; 2) the amount of force used was proportionate to the threatened harm; and 3) the defendant retreated to the greatest degree reasonably possible. Evidence that a woman suffers from battered spouse syndrome addresses part one of this standard, namely, whether the woman honestly feared for her life.

Part three of this tripartite self defense standard, the duty to retreat, is inapplicable in a defendant’s own home because of the so-called “castle doctrine,” or privilege of nonretreat. The castle doctrine provides that if an assailant threatens a victim with violence in the victim’s own home, the victim may turn aggressor without any duty of retreat, and still be able to justify his actions by claiming self defense.... Yet, the castle doctrine is not absolute.

The remaining issue for the court, then, is what jury instruction should be given in cases of domestic violence slayings where the defendant claims self defense? Although the court points to no studies that suggest a privilege of nonretreat could result in an increase of domestic violence incidents and homicides, the court is concerned that completely eliminating a duty to retreat might invite violence. For this reason, the court adopted a jury instruction that “imposes a limited duty to retreat within the residence to the extent reasonably possible, but not to flee the residence.”

Weiand v. State and Battered Spouse Syndrome: The Toothless Tigress Can Now Roar

On March 1999, Florida’s Supreme Court effectively granted Florida women the ability to rely upon battered spouse syndrome as a defense to killing their abuser. Prior to the court’s decision in Weiand v. State, 732 So. 2d 1044 (Fla. 1999), an abused woman’s ability to justifiably defend herself...

www.floridabar.org

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

Are we finally going to see the body cam of JT inside the house? That we never saw before because it was out of the realm of the public?

 

[Wishbone]

I don't even know what that video was besides SB sounding drunk and not making sense.

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

I don't even know what that video was besides SB sounding drunk and not making sense.

It was the incident where SB called the police saying JT had assaulted her but ended up getting charged with violence against him. (the first video)

 

[Wishbone]

It was the incident where SB called the police saying JT had assaulted her but ended up getting charged with violence against him. (the first video)

Do we know what injuries JT had?

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

Do we know what injuries JT had?

I seem to recall it was scratches on his neck. He reported that she attacked him was trying to strangle him and throw him down the stairs or somesuch so he kicked back against her to push her off him. She was charged with assault against him but the case was dropped.

 

[arielilane]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1849531880942497993

 

[sasha17]

Do we know what injuries JT had?

If this is the July 2018 incident, he was strangled and had neck injuries. Sarah was charged with felony strangulation. Jorge said Sarah sustained the head/face injury when he was trying to get her off him.

If this is from some other 911 DV call, I'm not sure.

 

[sasha17]

We're seeing multiple videos of LE talking to Sarah after she called 911 in 2018 and 2019, listening to her describe all the ways Jorge hurt her. But we're not seeing LE talking to Jorge to hear his side of how she hurt him. Are they not allowed to show that or is this a deliberate choice by the state?

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

I'm gonna say it's time police officers have better microphones

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

We're seeing multiple videos of LE talking to Sarah after she called 911, listening to her describe all the ways Jorge hurt her. But we're not seeing LE talking to Jorge to hear his side of how she hurt him. Are they not allowed to show that or is this a deliberate choice by the state?

I suspect we're going to get to see what JT has to say and what statements officers took that reveal the (nearest thing to) truth.

 

[CHEL]

This video is sad.