GUILTY FL - Sarah Boone, 42, charged with murdering boyfriend Jorge Torres, 42, by leaving him locked in suitcase, Winter Park, Feb 2020 #3

[Izzylizzy]

Not only that, the behavior is who she is, not a temporary aberration. I suppose you don’t get jail for being tedious, but….her tediousness is abusive. The judge has also caught her in many lies, and has been a victim himself.

The sentencing report will be interesting. There’ll be very little in the positives column IMO.

Exactly, the crux of the matter.
That should never be forgotten.

 

[RickshawFan]

So true, it was the Psychologist of the first lawyer who proposed this idea - the so called 'expert witness' Julie Harper. I understand now why she clung onto this inapplicable and incorrect theory in court, lecturing everyone on something that clearly described JT's suffering and not SB's. None of it made sense. She had created a monster. One that didn't have any 'legs' whilst SB was being refused legal assistance from the state but one that grew many legs with Owens representing SB.

However, since Owens wasn't being paid... that's fallen a bit flat. Perhaps he could look to take legal action against Ms Harper for getting him in deep financial trouble and tarnishing his reputation, if indeed he had a good reputation.

ETA: I recall there is footage somewhere of Owens stating that he showed SB information about BSS and that is when SB came to realise this what what had happened and changed her defence to 'intentional because BSS'. So, it's on Owens albeit he got the idea from Dr Julie Harper.

JMO MOO

Before her testimony, SB was sitting in court studying papers that had the features of BSS laid out. Cue cards, if you will. That was the role Owens played: preparing Sarah for the defense she had chosen. DV was not his idea, nor was BSS. Sarah has been fixated on this for years.

 

[RickshawFan]

One always has a choice to motion the courts for a change with their legal custody arrangements.

#1 reason would be your child is in an unsafe environment with the other the parent/guardian.
For years BB had more than enough legal evidence to back that accusation against SB.

While that’s true, it doesn’t always work out in your favor. And Sarah didn’t pick up her child alot of times.

CPS should’ve been involved in this case. Absurd that it wasn’t.

 

[Izzylizzy]

I have no respect for BB. Weak father, enabled SB. He knew what she was like yet continued to give her money and allowed his young son to be exposed to that horrible situation. He must had liked being bossed around. Poor excuse of a father imo.

I've been looking to see if BB's pre-trial deposition is available online to no avail
.
For whatever reason Mr.J didn't get into much of anything about SB when he had him on the stand.
No follow ups to the incriminating things BB had told the female officer outside of SB's residence.
So there's that interview then BB's on the stand for us to go by, unless I missed a deposition but it was BB's trial testimony that the jurors heard.

I am inclined to think that the night of SB's 911 call SB stayed at BB's and she berated BB to clam up about her drinking, violence and being an irresponsible mother going forward?
Just like she berated JT to tell the judge she basically was an "angel" which was after she was arrested for strangling him.

I'm still confused about why BB's testimony at trial was so weak by the state and he wasn't used to corroborate their upcoming evidence showing SB's vile rhetoric,threats and violence towards JT?

 

[Izzylizzy]

I’m imagining Judge Kraynick sleeping in this morning, a lazy breakfast, and then having all the time in the world to hang out with friends and family. It’s the first time in 5 years he hasn’t had to twist his mind around Sarah Boone.

I’ll bet he already knows the sentence. The thing about the 5 years of Sarah’s duplicity and manipulations, there’s nothing relevant to her case that he doesn’t know already. It’s all on the books. There’s even a history of material in chambers that we don’t know anything about. I would think this material negatively reflects on Sarah as well, since a major purpose of chambers is to prevent prejudicing the case.

Judge Kraynick also has to decide what if any are the "aggravating factors"
I have no idea besides the use of a firearm, mentioned below which doesn't apply to SB's conviction.

"In Florida, a person convicted of second-degree murder can receive a sentence of life in prison, which means they could potentially be eligible for parole, although the minimum sentence is typically set at 16.75 years without the possibility of parole; aggravating factors like using a firearm can increase the minimum sentence further.'

'Key points about second-degree murder in Florida:'

Maximum sentence: Life in prison

• Minimum sentence: 16.75 years imprisonment
• Parole eligibility: While a life sentence is possible, the specifics of parole eligibility would depend on the case details and sentencing guidelines'

 

[acehard]

Judge Kraynick also has to decide what if any are the "aggravating factors"
I have no idea besides the gun mentioned below.

"In Florida, a person convicted of second-degree murder can receive a sentence of life in prison, which means they could potentially be eligible for parole, although the minimum sentence is typically set at 16.75 years without the possibility of parole; aggravating factors like using a firearm can increase the minimum sentence further.'

'Key points about second-degree murder in Florida:'

Maximum sentence: Life in prison

• Minimum sentence: 16.75 years imprisonment
• Parole eligibility: While a life sentence is possible, the specifics of parole eligibility would depend on the case details and sentencing guidelines'

She will get somewhere in between. She doesn't have priors so probably not max. But yeah I can't find anything about "aggravating factors" other than a gun. MOO

 

[Izzylizzy]

She will get somewhere in between. She doesn't have priors so probably not max. But yeah I can't find anything about "aggravating factors" other than a gun. MOO

This helps somewhat.

"In Florida, aggravating factors that can increase the severity of a second-degree murder sentence include:


Deadly weapon: Using a firearm or other deadly weapon

Victim vulnerability: The victim was particularly vulnerable, such as a child or elderly person

Prior criminal record: The defendant has a history of violent crimes or other criminal convictions

Hate crime: The victim was chosen based on a factor such as race, sexual orientation, gender, ancestry, age, or religion

Brutal manner of death: The manner of death was particularly cruel or brutal

Other factors that may be considered include the heinousness of the crime and the amount of harm done. '

Google Search

www.google.com

 

[Izzylizzy]

Looks like SB"s 2nd degree conviction was fulfilled showing "evincing a depraved mind" etc so that wouldn't be an "aggravating factor for her sentencing"?

"Evincing a depraved mind, regardless of human life" is a phrase used in Florida law to describe second degree murder:

Definition	The unlawful killing of another person without premeditation, but with an act that's dangerous to others and shows a depraved mind
Punishment	Imprisonment for a term of years, up to life in prison

 

[acehard]

This helps somewhat.

"In Florida, aggravating factors that can increase the severity of a second-degree murder sentence include:


Deadly weapon: Using a firearm or other deadly weapon

Victim vulnerability: The victim was particularly vulnerable, such as a child or elderly person

Prior criminal record: The defendant has a history of violent crimes or other criminal convictions

Hate crime: The victim was chosen based on a factor such as race, sexual orientation, gender, ancestry, age, or religion

Brutal manner of death: The manner of death was particularly cruel or brutal

Other factors that may be considered include the heinousness of the crime and the amount of harm done. '

Google Search

www.google.com

Yeah it's hard to say.

 

[Izzylizzy]

Most likely there will be no "probation report" forthcoming at sentencing.
I was curious how SB was going to try and pull off being the victim again and her track record of showing zilch remorse for killing JT.

"No, in Florida, a defendant convicted of second-degree murder typically would not meet with a probation officer before sentencingbecause second-degree murder is classified as a first-degree felony, which usually means a prison sentence is expected and probation is not a likely option due to the severity of the crime; however, the specifics can vary depending on the case and the judge's discretion.

Key points to remember:

No standard probation for 2nd degree murder:
In most cases, a person convicted of second-degree murder in Florida will be sentenced directly to prison without a pre-sentencing probation meeting.


Possible exceptions:
In rare instances where a judge is considering an unusual sentence with probation as a component, a pre-sentencing meeting with a probation officer might be ordered to evaluate the defendant's suitability for probation.'

 

[jepop]

I’m imagining Judge Kraynick sleeping in this morning, a lazy breakfast, and then having all the time in the world to hang out with friends and family. It’s the first time in 5 years he hasn’t had to twist his mind around Sarah Boone.

I’ll bet he already knows the sentence. The thing about the 5 years of Sarah’s duplicity and manipulations, there’s nothing relevant to her case that he doesn’t know already. It’s all on the books. There’s even a history of material in chambers that we don’t know anything about. I would think this material negatively reflects on Sarah as well, since a major purpose of chambers is to prevent prejudicing the case.

Respectfully bolded above. Whilst any time, imo, is too much time to be required to think about Sarah Boone, I just wanted to note that Judge Kraynick was relatively new to the case. I'm not sure exactly when he came on board as only been following here last few months, but attached news report dated February 2024 suggests he was new at that time.

Report refers to Judge Wooten as being the Judge for the majority of those 5 years. My sympathies go out to Wooten too! I believe Hon Judge Kraynick was trying hard to avoid pitfalls previously experienced by Hon. Judge Wooten when he stood firm on no more Court appointed public defenders and especially no more continuances earlier this year.

I think Judge Kraynick was excellent with boundaries and, crucially, not reacting negatively or positively in any way to Sarah herself, to anything she said or implied. During those times he had to deal with her directly he was totally impervious to her manipulative character, remaining neutral and unaffected. I mean that imo he gave nothing away in body language or expression. Immensely satisfying to watch and I'd imagine immensely unsatisfying and frustrating for Sarah Boone. Jmo

Sarah Boone loses seventh attorney ahead of murder trial

A seventh attorney representing accused killer Sarah Boone asked to withdraw from her case days after she sent another letter to the judge.

www.courttv.com

 

[acehard]

Looks like SB"s 2nd degree conviction was fulfilled showing "evincing a depraved mind" etc so that wouldn't be an "aggravating factor for her sentencing"?

"Evincing a depraved mind, regardless of human life" is a phrase used in Florida law to describe second degree murder:

Definition	The unlawful killing of another person without premeditation, but with an act that's dangerous to others and shows a depraved mind
Punishment	Imprisonment for a term of years, up to life in prison

Yeah but how did they come up with 22.5 instead of 16.75 during the plea deal? That's not explained anywhere

 

[Izzylizzy]

Yeah but how did they come up with 22.5 instead of 16.75 during the plea deal? That's not explained anywhere

I don't know and that question has been asked repeatedly here while both numbers are used by legal talking heads in the media.

 

[Izzylizzy]

Yeah but how did they come up with 22.5 instead of 16.75 during the plea deal? That's not explained anywhere

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"In Florida, the minimum sentence for second-degree murder is 16.75 years in prison, not 22.5 years; however, if a firearm was used during the crime, the minimum sentence increases to 25 years."

 

[jepop]

Judge Kraynick also has to decide what if any are the "aggravating factors"
I have no idea besides the use of a firearm, mentioned below which doesn't apply to SB's conviction.

"In Florida, a person convicted of second-degree murder can receive a sentence of life in prison, which means they could potentially be eligible for parole, although the minimum sentence is typically set at 16.75 years without the possibility of parole; aggravating factors like using a firearm can increase the minimum sentence further.'

'Key points about second-degree murder in Florida:'

Maximum sentence: Life in prison

• Minimum sentence: 16.75 years imprisonment
• Parole eligibility: While a life sentence is possible, the specifics of parole eligibility would depend on the case details and sentencing guidelines'

The text says aggravating factors "like using a firearm...". So the word "like" seems to carry the meaning 'such as' or 'for example'? If that's so then maybe it would be up to the Judge to decide if using a baseball bat on JT is an aggravating factor. Moo

 

[jepop]

Yeah it's hard to say.

Brutal manner of death surely one aggravating factor especially taking into account JT's last words that we know of to the perpetrator "I can't breathe". Jmo

 

[acehard]

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"In Florida, the minimum sentence for second-degree murder is 16.75 years in prison, not 22.5 years; however, if a firearm was used during the crime, the minimum sentence increases to 25 years."

Yeah it's hard to speculate without knowing where the 22.5 came from

 

[cujenn81]

I have to assume the judge will also factor in the cruel manner in which JT died (including the fact that he begged for his life while she laughed and taunted him), SB’s seemingly lack of remorse, as well as her total refusal to accept one scintilla of responsibility for his death.
JMO

 

[jepop]

"We were very happy to gain some closure for the Torres family." ASA Dave Cacciatore Jr. and ASA William Jay speak out after the guilty verdict for #SarahBoone in the #SuitcaseMurderTrial.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1850010440543154366

Sweeties, both. Jmo

 

[jepop]

I have to assume the judge will also factor in the cruel manner in which JT died (including the fact that he begged for his life while she laughed and taunted him), SB’s seemingly lack of remorse, as well as her total refusal to accept one scintilla of responsibility for his death.
JMO

Catching up backwards and just commented similarly, surely will be an aggravating factor. I hate to be so direct, but his death would have been horrible and it was slow. Prosecution weren't using rhetoric when they described SB as torturing JT in the suitcase during closing argument. Moo