GUILTY FL - Sarah Boone, 42, charged with murdering boyfriend Jorge Torres, 42, by leaving him locked in suitcase, Winter Park, Feb 2020 #3

[Izzylizzy]

The text says aggravating factors "like using a firearm...". So the word "like" seems to carry the meaning 'such as' or 'for example'? If that's so then maybe it would be up to the Judge to decide if using a baseball bat on JT is an aggravating factor. Moo

I also thought of the bat but then something is always used when a person kills another person.

Strangle someone? Your hands.
Hit someone in the head with a hatchet? The hatchet.
Suffocate someone? The pillow.

I don't know but we will find out.

 

[Izzylizzy]

Brutal manner of death surely one aggravating factor especially taking into account JT's last words that we know of to the perpetrator "I can't breathe". Jmo

Wasn't SB"s 2nd degree conviction fulfilled showing "evincing a depraved mind" etc so that wouldn't be an "aggravating factor for her sentencing"?

"Evincing a depraved mind, regardless of human life" is a phrase used in Florida law to describe second degree murder:

 

[Izzylizzy]

Catching up backwards and just commented similarly, surely will be an aggravating factor. I hate to be so direct, but his death would have been horrible and it was slow. Prosecution weren't using rhetoric when they described SB as torturing JT in the suitcase during closing argument. Moo

Unless I missed it the Medical Examiner didn't testify to how long it could have taken JT to die?

I realize though there were a few factors in play. His lack of oxygen, a comprised chest due to being in the fetal position and injuries believed to have been from the bat to his head and body.

 

[I am not Sherlock H.]

Brutal manner of death surely one aggravating factor especially taking into account JT's last words that we know of to the perpetrator "I can't breathe". Jmo

Yes @jepop agree. Also have to wonder if any other factors might be relevant? Granted it seems that JT through some banter / conversation / agreement with SB agreed to enter the suitcase. And once he was inside then it was zipped shut by the defendant IIUC. IANAL. And I do not know about the applicability of the FL term of ‘victim vulnerability’. Not sure whether once he was in that position that might be a factor? MOO

 

[Izzylizzy]

She will get somewhere in between. She doesn't have priors so probably not max. But yeah I can't find anything about "aggravating factors" other than a gun. MOO

I just remembered this which would be an "aggravating factor" by not letting JT out of the suitcase?


"False imprisonment: When someone is held captive without the authority of the state. This is different from kidnapping, which involves movement of the victim"

One of the possible "aggravating factors at sentencing;

'Victim vulnerability: The victim was particularly vulnerable, such as a child or elderly person'

 

[jepop]

Wasn't SB"s 2nd degree conviction fulfilled showing "evincing a depraved mind" etc so that wouldn't be an "aggravating factor for her sentencing"?

"Evincing a depraved mind, regardless of human life" is a phrase used in Florida law to describe second degree murder:

True. Just the particular cruelty in MOD might still aggravate in terms of sentencing. But INAl but have a feeling judge would have some discretion here but yeah have to wait and see.

 

[Izzylizzy]

It was before that. It was while she was at the table. She was moving slow and it irritated the female bailiff. Like ‘girl you are guilty and it’s time to go’

At the end of the trial finding SB guilty of 2nd degree murder watch her get fingerprinted in the courtroom by the same female bailiff.
Sweet!
Very end of video.

 

[jepop]

Yes @jepop agree. Also have to wonder if any other factors might be relevant? Granted it seems that JT through some banter / conversation / agreement with SB agreed to enter the suitcase. And once he was inside then it was zipped shut by the defendant IIUC. IANAL. And I do not know about the applicability of the FL term of ‘victim vulnerability’. Not sure whether once he was in that position that might be a factor? MOO

Similarly thought about that vulnerability clause. I think you might be right, it's possible Judge could make a case for JT being in a particularly vulnerable and helpless state when SB decided on her own whim to commence her...what...torture, punishment? Chokehold? You know INAL either ( thank God hey ,Just joking) but the statute or whatnot states elderly and child as egs imo so don't think other interpretations of vulnerability are necessarily excluded. Jmo

 

[Izzylizzy]

"In Florida, female prisoners convicted of second-degree murder would typically be sentenced to a state prison, with the most likely facility being the Lowell Correctional Institution as it is the primary women's prison in Florida; however, the specific location could vary depending on factors like the prisoner's security level and available space within the system.'

SB's new digs come December 2nd?

Lowell Correctional Institution - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[jepop]

Unless I missed it the Medical Examiner didn't testify to how long it could have taken JT to die?

I realize though there were a few factors in play. His lack of oxygen, a comprised chest due to being in the fetal position and injuries believed to have been from the bat to his head and body.

I can't remember but I think it's fair to say that he began slowly running out of oxygen once she zipped him in. From the moment he asks to be let out, as far as I 'm concerned is the moment from which she commences being responsible for his subsequent death. The prosecution referenced JT as dying as Sarah Boone taunted and verbally abused him whilst he was trapped in the suitcase. So moo his dying was long, torturous, frightening...abandoned and alone. She went to make a call then to bed whilst he continued his dying downstairs. Imo aggravating factor if Judge sees it the same way. Jmo.

 

[Seattle1]

Jury finds Sarah Boone guilty in boyfriend’s suitcase killing - UPI.com

A Florida jury found Sarah Boone, 47, guilty of leaving boyfriend Jorge Torres Jr., 42, trapped inside a suitcase until he suffocated and died on Feb. 23, 2020.

www.upi.com

Oct. 26 (UPI) -- A Florida jury found Sarah Boone, 47, guilty of leaving boyfriend Jorge Torres Jr., 42, trapped inside a suitcase until he suffocated and died 4 1/2 years ago.

The Orange County jury rendered its verdict Friday following a 10-day trial. finding Boone guilty of second-degree murder on Feb. 23, 2020, in Winter Park. She faces up to life in prison with a minimum sentence of 22.5 years.
__________________________________

Hearing Transcript on Oct 7, 2024 -- Judge Michael Kraynick:

2:56
>> Do you understand that if we
2:59
were to proceed to trial in
3:00
this matter and if you are
3:00
found guilty the lowest
3:03
permissible sentence that
3:04
the court could Levy in this
3:05
case would be 22.5 years in the
3:07
Department of Corrections do
3:08
understand that do you
3:09
understand the states offer to
3:11
resolve this case.

 

[Izzylizzy]

I can't remember but I think it's fair to say that he began slowly running out of oxygen once she zipped him in. From the moment he asks to be let out, as far as I 'm concerned is the moment from which she commences being responsible for his subsequent death. The prosecution referenced JT as dying as Sarah Boone taunted and verbally abused him whilst he was trapped in the suitcase. So moo his dying was long, torturous, frightening...abandoned and alone. She went to make a call then to bed whilst he continued his dying downstairs. Imo aggravating factor if Judge sees it the same way. Jmo.

Prosecutor Dave Cacciatore and the jury agreed with you.


"He also argued that Boone was not justified in using deadly force against Torres."

"No reasonably prudent and cautious person would believe that a man who could barely fit into this box, who was incapable of movement, who was begging for his life, who was slowly asphyxiating, suffocating with each breath, would have needed to use deadly force against him," Cacciatore said. "The justifiable use of deadly force utterly fails, utterly crashes like a house of cards."

 

[Izzylizzy]

Jury finds Sarah Boone guilty in boyfriend’s suitcase killing - UPI.com

A Florida jury found Sarah Boone, 47, guilty of leaving boyfriend Jorge Torres Jr., 42, trapped inside a suitcase until he suffocated and died on Feb. 23, 2020.

www.upi.com

Oct. 26 (UPI) -- A Florida jury found Sarah Boone, 47, guilty of leaving boyfriend Jorge Torres Jr., 42, trapped inside a suitcase until he suffocated and died 4 1/2 years ago.

The Orange County jury rendered its verdict Friday following a 10-day trial. finding Boone guilty of second-degree murder on Feb. 23, 2020, in Winter Park. She faces up to life in prison with a minimum sentence of 22.5 years.
__________________________________

Hearing Transcript on Oct 7, 2024 -- Judge Michael Kraynick:

2:56
>> Do you understand that if we
2:59
were to proceed to trial in
3:00
this matter and if you are
3:00
found guilty the lowest
3:03
permissible sentence that
3:04
the court could Levy in this
3:05
case would be 22.5 years in the
3:07
Department of Corrections do
3:08
understand that do you
3:09
understand the states offer to
3:11
resolve this case.

Wow! and LOL
Thank you because it was so confusing.

@ 2:48 it's Judge Kraynick who tells SB that if she doesn't take the 15 yr deal she is facing a minimum of 22.5 yrs.

 

[cottonweaver]

Respectfully bolded above. Whilst any time, imo, is too much time to be required to think about Sarah Boone, I just wanted to note that Judge Kraynick was relatively new to the case. I'm not sure exactly when he came on board as only been following here last few months, but attached news report dated February 2024 suggests he was new at that time.

Report refers to Judge Wooten as being the Judge for the majority of those 5 years. My sympathies go out to Wooten too! I believe Hon Judge Kraynick was trying hard to avoid pitfalls previously experienced by Hon. Judge Wooten when he stood firm on no more Court appointed public defenders and especially no more continuances earlier this year.

I think Judge Kraynick was excellent with boundaries and, crucially, not reacting negatively or positively in any way to Sarah herself, to anything she said or implied. During those times he had to deal with her directly he was totally impervious to her manipulative character, remaining neutral and unaffected. I mean that imo he gave nothing away in body language or expression. Immensely satisfying to watch and I'd imagine immensely unsatisfying and frustrating for Sarah Boone. Jmo

Sarah Boone loses seventh attorney ahead of murder trial

A seventh attorney representing accused killer Sarah Boone asked to withdraw from her case days after she sent another letter to the judge.

www.courttv.com

Hear hear!
I've been so impressed by that Judge Kraynick and I wanted to express that but you've done it for me, very eloquently

 

[Seattle1]

Wow! and LOL
Thank you because it was so confusing.

@ 2:48 it's Judge Kraynick who tells SB that if she doesn't take the 15 yr deal she is facing a minimum of 22.5 yrs.

That was no imposter. You heard it directly from Judge Michael Kraynick on the record. MSM continues to report the same (22.5 is the minimum sentence) on this date.

Also, the minimum sentence should have been longer but for the statute of limitations that prevented the State from charging SB for beating JT with the baseball bat! This was previously unknown to them until SB confessed it to use for her BSS defense!

 

[cottonweaver]

Forgot to add but just to close out my earlier query on BB's giggle outside the apartment, I went back and rewatched his testimony and he did the same thing on the witness stand too. Just a nervous laugh.
Testifying in this trial must have been daunting.

 

[Izzylizzy]

That was no imposter. You heard it directly from Judge Michael Kraynick on the record. MSM continues to report the same (22.5 is the minimum sentence) on this date.

Also, the minimum sentence should have been longer but for the statute of limitations that prevented the State from charging SB for beating JT with the baseball bat! This was previously unknown to them until SB confessed it to use for her BSS defense!

Huh?
I said it was Judge Kraynick so I have no idea what the "that was no imposter" is referencing.
EDIT: I get it now! lol

Thanks for the bat info.

 

[Seattle1]

Huh?
I said it was Judge Kraynick so I have no idea what the "that was no imposter" is referencing.

Thanks for the bat info.

'No imposter' is simply confirmation that both the transcript and audio/video are that of Judge Kraynick on the Court record on 10/7/24 since this has been linked multiple times already!

 

[ShadyLady]

Yeah it's hard to say.

JT did not die quickly, he was tortured. So, I would say that fits the bill for life. imo.

Yes @jepop agree. Also have to wonder if any other factors might be relevant? Granted it seems that JT through some banter / conversation / agreement with SB agreed to enter the suitcase. And once he was inside then it was zipped shut by the defendant IIUC. IANAL. And I do not know about the applicability of the FL term of ‘victim vulnerability’. Not sure whether once he was in that position that might be a factor? MOO

But, remember there is no proof JT entered the suitcase voluntarily. He was packing to leave imo, and SB made sure he did not walk out of her house alive.

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

I have no respect for BB. Weak father, enabled SB. He knew what she was like yet continued to give her money and allowed his young son to be exposed to that horrible situation. He must had liked being bossed around. Poor excuse of a father imo.

I think this is why he didn't say much in court - his testimony could have been used against him in other areas.