• #441
this is insane why is she not getting away from the duggars her husband did something bad does she not understand what he did? is she that nieve. didn't they learn anything growing up or was she very sheltered and that's the way its has always been.

and where are her own parents are they not speaking out are they staying silent do they think this is ok so much sht running in my mind it's insane the only one whos making sense is cousin amy she's exposing her family for who they are and shes not sugar coating it and a few of the siblings who spoke out against them.


I hope cps makes it so if she gets her kids back he cannot be around them ever not alone not supervised not ever!
those kids deserve a better life away from the cult they are being raised in
 
  • #442
KD can not see her children for 1 month.
Anyone know if the kids are in state custody or with family/friends?

Sounds like Joseph's (very supportive to Kendra) brother Jason and his wife either have or want to have the kids. He's the only married Duggar brother in Arkansas with no kids.

I'm sure Jim Bob wants complete control over the little Duggars. Despite everything.
 
  • #443

So, this article is interesting. Apparently, even though Joe was arrested, primarily based on his confession, he is pleading "Not Guilty". I wonder how that will play out.
 
  • #444

So, this article is interesting. Apparently, even though Joe was arrested, primarily based on his confession, he is pleading "Not Guilty". I wonder how that will play out.
Attorneys will almost always counsel clients to plead not guilty, even if they've already confessed. It gives the client more options at the outset.
 
  • #445
Wow. I listened to the phone calls from Joe to Kendra.

They are both 100% detached from reality and all cult jello brain.

Kendra is dealing with her charges, she shares with her husband, and he's like, oh, yeah, I saw they served me with something, but I couldn't deal with it, so I just glanced at them then read the bible they gave me and it gave me peace. Meanwhile, Kendra is trying to take care of the family business and the charges she's facing while, it appears, pretty seriously, chronically ill.

Every time Kendra brings up her realistic stress, Joe talks over her, then tells her he has the same or worse problems but he gets peace from reading the bible and zoning out. So she stops talking about herself and turns to talking about his comfort and need to have things to read.

Her children are not in her custody, it appears from what is said in the phone call, and she wonders if he has a pillow and enough reading material.

He admitted to molesting a nine year old, and she wonders if he has a pillow and enough reading material.

They have no idea how messed up it is to be concerned about if Joe can find peace with being in a jail cell, when their own children have had their lives turned upside-down, and a teenager has to deal with the fact that Joe molested her when she was nine. (As is alleged that occurred and that he allegedly admitted to.)

They talk about seeing what God has planned for them, because it is apparently all about their journey through charges of endangering, imprisoning, and in Joes case, molesting children. It's all about them...or maybe it's all about Joe.

Meanwhile, Joes family are quadrupling her dependence on him while he is incarcerated, lessening the odds she ever leaves that headspace and focuses on the victims, not Joe, and her own heath, not Joe's comfort.

It's painful for me to listen to. And I'm not one of the victims.

MOO
They both know that their calls are recorded and I assume they are aware that these calls are being released to the public.
So is all this magical thinking talk about their god and Biblical prophets deliberately intended to make their culties/fans welcome back JD and to some extent KD as the persecuted victims who God has big plans for their futures?
FFS! Moses & Joseph, coat of many colors.

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  • #446
It will be interesting to see what path his attorney takes in this case. Since he allegedly confessed to the childs Father, how can they reel that back in? Would he choose a non jury trial, plea deal?
 
  • #447

Looks like Kendra's family, Paul and Cristina Caldwell have started a go fund me.


And Kendra is starting on planning what to do next...apparently she can't see her children for a month, per this article.
 

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All I can say is they sure have a lot of nerve asking for money to help a child predator.
 
  • #449
All I can say is they sure have a lot of nerve asking for money to help a child predator.

I see 5-6 adults/teens in the picture, time for them to all get a job. I was working since age 14, I delivered yellow and white pages phone books. Remember those?! I am really OLD. Well, that job no longer exists, but plenty of jobs...that means interacting with other people. Oh, the horror!
 
  • #450
I see 5-6 adults/teens in the picture, time for them to all get a job. I was working since age 14, I delivered yellow and white pages phone books. Remember those?! I am really OLD. Well, that job no longer exists, but plenty of jobs...that means interacting with other people. Oh, the horror!
I’m livid that these grifters believe they’re entitled to ask for money to pay for Joseph and Kendra to have lawyers. And pay for living expenses too?

Absolutely get a freaking job! I’m so tired of people wanting strangers to pick up the bill for problems they themselves created by committing crimes! How can these crowd funding services even allow it?

Remember back in the day when Ross Harris asked for money before he was arrested for his son’s hot car death? When he was arrested the funding site shut down the account and refunded the donations.

Nowadays apparently people can beg for money for any reason. Could you imagine Charlie Manson asking for defense funds? Why is it okay for a self confessed pedophile to ask us to pay his lawyer?

I’m fuming!
JMO
 
  • #451
All I can say is they sure have a lot of nerve asking for money to help a child predator.
I don't believe the funds are for JD but are for the victim's legal expenses.
Maybe a civil suit is in the making too?

In a recent jail call KD was telling JD that her parents are moving out of the house and everyone is going to hold them to it.
JD & KD own the house it was said that they gave it to her parents to live in after Jim Bob kicked PC and family out of the house he had rented them.
There's real bad blood between Jim Bob and Paul Caldwell for a few years now and it appears that it's getting much worse.
imo

imo
 
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I don't believe the funds are for JD but are for the victim's legal expenses.
Maybe a civil suit is in the making too?

In a recent jail call KD was telling JD that her parents have 1 month to get out of their home, one that they own and rent and was said that they gave to her parents after Jim Bob kicked PC and family out of the house he had rented them.
There's real bad blood between Jim Bob and Paul Caldwell for a few years now and it appears that it's getting much worse.
imo

imo

The issue though, is that Kendra is NOT in this picture. It is the Caldwell family, without Kendra in the picture. Her picture is overlaid on top, with her, Joe and her kids.

So, who is the money for?
 
  • #453
And now the link for their "Go Fund Me" is gone. Odd.
 
  • #454
And now the link for their "Go Fund Me" is gone. Odd.
No, not odd. That website does not do fundraisers for even suspected criminals. Some of the knockoff websites do, as long as they pay the commission.
 
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No, not odd. That website does not do fundraisers for even suspected criminals. Some of the knockoff websites do, as long as they pay the commission.
There's one called Funded Justice that's specifically for funding legal issues. They might have to go there, but then their fundraiser will be among !!GASP! CRIMINALS!!! ...oh wait.
 
  • #457
Joseph, I’m so sorry for what you are going through. Mom & I love you very much!” Jim Bob wrote in an email dated Mar. 25. “Looks like you have a long road ahead of you, but God will get you through. You have made some terrible decisions, but God has already forgiven you if you have asked him."

Kendra is doing well overall. She is trusting in the Lord," Jim Bob said. "She loves you very much! Your kids are going to be okay. Our whole family has pulled together to help. Several of the sisters and sister-in-law's have taken Kendra out and spent a lot of time with her. It is ridiculous that they charged Kendra and arrested her, we've hired [redacted] to help Kendra. We were praying that we can get her charges dropped. You would be so proud of your Brothers and grateful to them for how they've all stepped up and are helping with all the details of your business and helping Kendra."

"I think Friday has probably been my hardest day, but that's crazy to say because Wednesday was crazy hard," Kendra told Joseph during a call from the Washington County Detention Facility on March 24, obtained by People magazine.

Wednesday had been the day Joseph was arrested, followed by Kendra on Friday.

"But it's just like, when you then take my babies from me, they were who I was just going to pour my life into,” she said.

Joseph told her the children are her “purpose right now.”

In an earlier call on March 22, Kendra told Joseph, "From what I hear they are doing good.”

But in another call, with the date not given, Kendra tells Joseph the kids are her “number one priority right now.”

She said, "I just want you to know, through all of this, whatever happens, that's who's coming first," and added "then we'll just see where the rest of it leads us and try to put the pieces together."
Jim Bob's letter continued.


"Jim Bob ended his message by warning his son that he will face "major consequences" for his alleged crimes.

“You are just going to have to accept the situation at this point and it’s also fine to pray that God would have mercy on you, but you’re probably gonna face a [sic] major consequences for several years to come,” Jim Bob wrote. “I pray that God will bring other Christians into your life to encourage you and that you can also point people to Christ even through the time you’re in jail and prison. God will be with you! He will get you and your family through!”


"David in the Bible royally messed up, but he repented and became a man after God's own heart. You also like Joseph who was in prison, can make lemonade out of lemons," he concluded. "I love you and we'll keep praying for you, don't give up. God is not finished with your life. Love you, Dad. 'Trust in the Lord, lean not to your own understanding.'"
 
  • #458
No, not odd. That website does not do fundraisers for even suspected criminals. Some of the knockoff websites do, as long as they pay the commission.
The fundraising site they used prohibits raising legal funds for accused/convicted criminals.
You can fund-raise for victims,medical, funerals.
If it was taken down it could be because who and why legal funds are being asked for wasn't identified.
If the money is for the young victim of JD's SA legal fund it's obvious why they are remaining anonymous and that may be against the fund-raiser's policy.
???

imo
 
  • #459
The issue though, is that Kendra is NOT in this picture. It is the Caldwell family, without Kendra in the picture. Her picture is overlaid on top, with her, Joe and her kids.

So, who is the money for?
The victim who may be related to KD and KD chose to stand by her husband and not her relative.
The families had supposedly vacationed together in 2020.
imo
 
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It will be interesting to see what path his attorney takes in this case. Since he allegedly confessed to the childs Father, how can they reel that back in? Would he choose a non jury trial, plea deal?
The first thing he'll do is to try and get the phone call confession thrown out.
imo

Did he make a verbal confession to LE?
 

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