FL - Somer Thompson, 7, Orange Park, 19 Oct 2009 #24

[Kewpiedoll]

well with DT's outgoing personality...Im sure she (DT) "didn't know a stranger" either...poor Somer probably thought it was normal to talk to anyone and everyone...not ever developing that fear that makes us wary of people we don't know. Does that make sense?



Apple <----not that far----> Tree

I do recall the statement that Somer did not know a stranger, and would even hug the crossing guards. It was also stated she would wander the neighborhood (per neighbors) looking for someone to play with. She probably talked to anyone that gave her the time of day, and would pay attention to her.

Sad,sad,sad.....!

 

[VirginiaTwo]

I honestly believe that better judgement on her mothers part could have prevented somers murder, and I also believe another parent using better judgement could prevent other children this same fate.

20+ pages of trashing "mom t" (this is an unusual way to address DT) over the Holidays... she has been discussed more today than yesterday... I thought you were complaining about off topic conversations on smoking... I think 20+ pages is an exaggeration and yes, I also would like to know... whats all the fuss about?

Agree 100%. Part of parenting is reaching out to our troubled kids and helping them to find solutions. Sometimes it hurts to be a kid. Parents can do a great deal to heal hurts and encourage positive action. Neglect is not just physical. There is emotional neglect also.

I looovveed the Thanksgiving Laughs! My computer would not stay logged on, so I just read and hung out. I was laughing with you all ..... even though I don't have a garage. LOL Just playing, I don't smoke, but it was sure funny. MammaD is hilarious. Did her Uncles sell the boxes of smokes as if they were name brand? What characters!

 

[Cheewawa007]

I have two awful scenarios in my head. One is very similar to what others have stated here: that perhaps Mom located Somer and things got out of hand. The whailing and broken-heartedness we witnessed would still fit with that scenario. Can you imagine how any one of us would be absolutely tortured and crushed if we accidentally caused our own child's death? Oh my Gosh! Talk about denial to be able to even get out of bed?!?! I cannot even imagine the confusion, guilt, and suffering. I hope nothing like that happened.

The other scenario is of a dog attack. Perhaps a dog attacked Somer, and the owner panicked, similar to the hit-by-car scenarios brought up here.

Regardless of everything, I still wonder about SAP. He may be The One, or a part of something larger. I hope not, but .........

And there's a new person on my list ....... ARGH!!!!

BBM: I've never seen that one put out there Virginia - very possible!!! I'm impressed.

 

[eyes4crime]

well with DT's outgoing personality...Im sure she (DT) "didn't know a stranger" either...poor Somer probably thought it was normal to talk to anyone and everyone...not ever developing that fear that makes us wary of people we don't know. Does that make sense?



Apple <----not that far----> Tree

If a child has a vulnerability - the child predator will find it. If mom or dad has any vulnerabilities - the psychopath will find, exploit and use each and every one of them. That info comes from Dr. Robert Hare - 35 years of research on the psychopath.

 

[Kewpiedoll]

1)In regards to DT telling the LE Somer has never done this type of thing before. Think about it - had DT shared this info with the LE from the beginning, they would not have been so eager to help her search (not that they were from the get-go). They would have blown her off & said she's probably at a little friends house & she'll come home soon. She didn't tell them Somer's done this before because she knew they wouldn't take her seriously.
2) I had a second comment but I lost my train of thought........

Yea... very good thinking chee....
DT could have lied just to keep LE serious, and also had her pal SP on druggie clean up duty before LE made it to her home. Hence the reason she nor SP phoned 911.... !!

 

[human]

I don't know if what DT did or didn't do as far as watching Somer would lead to anything or not. OP was considered safe. It seems like a lot of safeguards were in place for kids walking home with the crossing guards and all.

With her job and PC's job there should have been enough money for some kind of childcare. It sounds from some postings on the newspaper sites that there is after school childcare. Really, she could not trust Somer because she didn't come home a few times. A child of that age could get into anything.

My friend left her daughter home when she was about that age for about an hour. And this child was very responsible. She was playing on the upstairs railing and somehow got her foot stuck in it and was hanging upside down. She couldn't right herself. Fortunately, it wasn't for long. Kids do dumb stuff. Even if you are home as a parent, they do dumb stuff.

Somer was in first grade. That's really young for disappearing for an hour and calling around to find out where she is. Hindsight is so 20-20. I think the older you get and have a lot more life experiences, you see the possibilities for tragedy. DT is pretty young to me as I have kids her age.

I agree, however, that the people DT had enter into her life may not be the wisest choices. I'm shocked everyday on what parents do to their kids.

I very briefly watched an LE guy talk on Oprah about sex videos on the net. He said the worst one was of someone having sex with a baby that still had it's umbilical cord. What can I say?

 

[sadnpod]

Wed. night, all Thanksgiving day, and all today...lots of pages of trashing mom. I know, because I always read from where I left off. Imo most of it is senseless attacks and conjecture regarding mom T.

I agree - in every murdered and/or missing child's life there is someone that could have had better judgement or thought differently or done something different that may have changed the outcome. You and others want to focus on the mom and I want to focus on pedophiles, psychopaths, and child predators. To me, they are are the ones who go undetected. Research tells us they prey on the vulnerable and have antennae that pick out the most vulnerable, both in families and in child victims.

I have been focusing on pedophiles, psychopaths and child predators...
my personal focus has never been on DT.. Because of this I think we have eliminated at least one RSO. You say you also want to focus on this, yet every post you have made today continues to focus on DT, or mom T to you. Why are you so defensive about DT?

 

[VirginiaTwo]

UGH.. more initials who is ARGH? (just kidding) I also wonder about SP. Take the vulgarity out of the pics and the background has its own tales, also the date.. I think the year is right,,, DT and SP are much younger looking.. wonder how far they go back? Looks like a pic of ST in uniform on the wall as well... and twins pic.. they are babies..

Aunt Ruthie's Ghoulish Handyman? UGH must be Ugly Ghoulish Handyman. But we're not sure if it's the same handyman, 'cause they have different DOB's and middle initials. Besides, does ghoulish equal ugly?

Sorry, couldn't resist. Isn't the date of those party photos before DT & ST split? I don't know, I just thought I heard the two year mark being thrown around as when they split. The pics are from 2003/2004 yes? Hmmmmm. Please don't tell me ST was in Iraq at that time?!

 

[sadnpod]

Aunt Ruthie's Ghoulish Handyman? UGH must be Ugly Ghoulish Handyman. But we're not sure if it's the same handyman, 'cause they have different DOB's and middle initials. Besides, does ghoulish equal ugly?

Sorry, couldn't resist. Isn't the date of those party photos before DT & ST split? I don't know, I just thought I heard the two year mark being thrown around as when they split. The pics are from 2003/2004 yes? Hmmmmm. Please don't tell me ST was in Iraq at that time?!

Im not sure of split date... two years since ST saw the kids... they were split up for a while before that, but I dont know how long...nor do I know when ST was in Iraq... but I will find out, not because I care when they split, but because I am curious about the depth and longevity of DT/SP relationship. He does seem to be in charge of the fund raisers and the bank account.

 

[Kewpiedoll]

I have been focusing on pedophiles, psychopaths and child predators...
my personal focus has never been on DT.. Because of this I think we have eliminated at least one RSO. You say you also want to focus on this, yet every post you have made today continues to focus on DT, or mom T to you. Why are you so defensive about DT?

Ah ha... quite the observation... lol
Do as I say not as I do kinda thing..... ??? Typically speaking-- I call em'
hall monitors.



Carry on... pod...

 

[Rhyme & Reason]

Somebody could tell you if you had 50 posts.

Go to the games thread and play for awhile.

Could someone please tell me? I have more than 50 posts!! TIA

 

[4mer.naybor]

Aunt Ruthie's Ghoulish Handyman? UGH must be Ugly Ghoulish Handyman. But we're not sure if it's the same handyman, 'cause they have different DOB's and middle initials. Besides, does ghoulish equal ugly?

Sorry, couldn't resist. Isn't the date of those party photos before DT & ST split? I don't know, I just thought I heard the two year mark being thrown around as when they split. The pics are from 2003/2004 yes? Hmmmmm. Please don't tell me ST was in Iraq at that time?!

Oh boy Sadnpod might know the answer to this one...all I can verify is that this is the same time frame as the "hospitalization" (c.2003-2004)

 

[txsvicki]

DT said answered on one interview that yes, Somer would have gotten into someone's car. Of course, I think any child could be tricked, but one that you know would get in, that hugs all sorts of people, (crossing guards are strangers since kids cross with them and never actually know them), and doesn't know a stranger is a child who needs total supervision. If LE had been told all that in the beginning they would have definitely taken it seriously.

 

[Kewpiedoll]

Oh boy Sadnpod might know the answer to this one...all I can verify is that this is the same time frame as the "hospitalization" (c.2003-2004)

Makes me wonder if this hush hush hospitalization was from dug over-dose with her drug problem, or if she flipped a nutty while out of it and ended up with a 5150 in that type of hospital... ((things that make you go..?))

 

[eyes4crime]

I have been focusing on pedophiles, psychopaths and child predators...
my personal focus has never been on DT.. Because of this I think we have eliminated at least one RSO. You say you also want to focus on this, yet every post you have made today continues to focus on DT, or mom T to you. Why are you so defensive about DT?

Some people like to focus on mom..any and all moms. some people obviously have a grudge against mom T. some people don't know what else to talk about in a case that is going cold - and that's me right now. I found it important to address the pages and pages trashing mom T over the holidays...I'm done now and hope something of substance will soon be released by LE - that will give most something relevant to discuss.

If I come across a bit defensive regarding mom DT, maybe I am. I have a place in my heart for single moms. One day my husband suddenly died and left me a single mom - and although I never had a tragic event with my children, I do know how difficult it is to provide and care for your family. And, I can honestly say, that if one of my children had ever been murdered, disappeared, or in harms way, I'm not sure at all how/what I would have done. I've devoted much of my professional life to forensics and/or single moms.

 

[not_my_kids]

I've had a mystery hospitalization...I would hate to have my child go missing, as I would definitely be villified to the nth degree. (Course, I don't hide things, which might help if I ever find myself in that situation. Sorta the let it all hang out type.)

Do we have any confirmation that there was any drug use in the household around the time that Somer disappeared?
Just curious, trying to sort out rumor from truth.

 

[sadnpod]

If a child has a vulnerability - the child predator will find it. If mom or dad has any vulnerabilities - the psychopath will find, exploit and use each and every one of them. That info comes from Dr. Robert Hare - 35 years of research on the psychopath.
__________________

I dont need 35 years of research to know that a 7yr old child left to walk alone or be supervised by a 10 yr old child is vulnerable... THEY BOTH are.. Research also shows criminals are lazy and look for easy targets.. common sense tells me unsupervised children are easy targets...

 

[4mer.naybor]

Makes me wonder if this hush hush hospitalization was from dug over-dose with her drug problem, or if she flipped a nutty while out of it and ended up with a 5150 in that type of hospital... ((things that make you go..?))

I wish I knew which one it was for as well...but in the neighborhood back then, DT was our Britney for sure.

As a matter of fact several of the neighbors laughed as they knew that one day.....one day we would see DT on Tv....but no one ever imagined it would be under these circumstances.

 

[amysmom]

(gives a whole new meaning to "pin the tail on the donkey", doesn't it?)

sbm

for sure! & it should come with a warning..for adults only..cos ya know
somebody's kids (or all of them!) have checked out parent's ms..what kid
would not be curious? :waitasec:

 

[eyes4crime]

Ah ha... quite the observation... lol
Do as I say not as I do kinda thing..... ??? Typically speaking-- I call em'
hall monitors.



Carry on... pod...

Triangulation, conquer and divide and all the little games some play simply don't work on a blog. Placing people you don't know into a made-up category is dangerous and misses the human element of who the person really is. Somehow, your posts make more sense to me...Have fun kewpiedoll!