FL - Somer Thompson, 7, Orange Park, 19 Oct 2009 #24

[paris_paris]

Well, you got the sport right. Wrong league though.

I can tell you didn't Google. Thanx for that. lol

 

[ccane]

I wish I could open up on this one, but all I can really say is that this was a major low point in her life...I had already moved away, but mutual friends and DT herself filled me in on the details. That is all I have to go on, I wasn't there, but it was big enough for me to walk away. Put your mind to work, there are only so many things that are that serious. Sorry, that is the best I can do on this one.

and sorry I wouldn't have been out in the garage with y'all on thanksgiving night lol

I argee .I think it is best for you not to tell any info on private matters that you where privy to.

 

[houndstooth]

LE has not named any suspects. No person(s) of interest. Should there be no discussion of the case? I have not asked to see, nor do I wish to, any "party" pictures.
My opinions are being formed based on the available facts as presented in this case.
1) the subject DT flagged down an officer before she admits to going home to check.
Has not been verified as to what time she left work. Has not been verified as to when she asked SP to come over, or whether they had lunch or anything related to him. All of that is AS STATED by herself. Her reasoning for going to OPAA stated as to pick up her son (AC), was not substantiated by the MPR on the face of it or by incidental comments made in the media of him having gone out later, of him staying out and searching 3 hours. Neither of which coincides with her stated purpose of picking him up. Why pick him up when other younger children walk it every day?
2) She states she knew this time was different, she knew something bad had happened. But, neglected to call 911 in order to substantiate those statements. If the deputy would not have passed by then, when was she planning to contact them?

3) It has been stated very well by other posters, that her original dress has not changed, as compared to the description of her backpack. Someone as observant as she was on the one hand was surprisingly lax on something 3 weeks later being reported as flamboyant and memorable as the tote bag and lunch box sketches.

4) The use of a much older photograph that was acknowledged widely to have been unrecognizable to the neighbors as the missing child.

5) Having your children collect money on street corners in exchange for fliers before she was discovered. And starting a non-stop fundraising campaign that began before the funeral and continues up to the present. Using the death of your child as your sole means of income because you quit your job is unusual in today's legal system which allows for extended leave in such circumstances. Thereby negating the necessity of quitting your employment.

6) Stating the use of the media as a means of getting your story out there and making sure it stays highlighted as an inducement to LE is ludicrous. They are going to do their job in solving this crime whether the media features it on the morning shows or not!!

These are just a few of the circumstantial evidences of something worthy of closer inspection. None of the principals named on the MPR can be verified except by phone records, as to the times and locations of their whereabouts that we are not privy too at this time. None of those 4.

 

[VirginiaTwo]

Well, you got the sport right. Wrong league though.

I can tell you didn't Google. Thanx for that. lol

Montreal?

 

[tarabull]

Kewpie doll-you are tough. You certainly calls em as you sees em!

Yes she sure is isn't she.....and she does it so well!

THAT'S MY GIRL!



WE'VE been missin YOU Kewpie...YOU sure picked a nice time to stop by!

hehehehe.

 

[eyes4crime]

Well -- DT certainly has a 5-star track record of men in and out of her, and her children's lives. She must be one very unlucky woman to keep on marrying *losers* and keep on finding *loser* boyfriends to live with.

While I'm no expert like you in the field of expertise here-- I do have something called *common sense*... and my common sense tells me she has issues with relationships-- period. A revolving door of men in and out of her children's lives is far from healthy... in my opinion. It is more than likely a huge task for LE to investigate all of her men, and their wives, and friends, and families to clear them.

Her drug abuse is a huge problem and I have no problem calling it as I see it. THAT is exactly why no one from the DT camp called 911-- and exactly why SP couldn't take the time go out with the children to look for Somer. SP was on drug clean up duty and getting everything out of that house-- in my opinion. How could they call 911 and have LE in that home with all the drugs.... ? They couldn't-- hence the wasted travel time DT took to drive home, and just knew something was wrong. I want to know why she lied about Somer not ever doing something like this?

I could continue on and on with DT's behavior and from where I am sitting neglect to her children. She was busy getting her drugs and playing house with new boyfriends, instead of paying attention to her children. She knew Somer was having problems and she knew Somer was not coming home from school with the other children-- she even provided the sitter with a list of friends and numbers to call in order to find Somer.

I do not believe DT killed Somer-- she was too busy with her boy toys and party life-- however-- I do believe this killer could easily be someone in and out of her home that is connected to one of many boyfriends, or druggie pals.

AND one last thing-- I don't believe the off topic or non-sleuthing about this case over the holiday is anyone's fault-- LE has not provided any information from the get go, and certainly hasn't provided any updates to help anyone with this case.

5 star track record with loser men - maybe we should do checks on all her husbands to see how they affected mom T. and the kids. Could it be that they did ddrugs also? Maybe not receiving child support put mom T. at risk for losing her child to murder. Maybe the murderer is a friend of one of the husband's. You say you have common sense - so think about how having trouble with relationships can be so one-sided - you blame it all on mom. What the heck - don't the men involved have stamina to say 'no' to marriage or to a relationship? Are you suggesting they are all wimps?

I have never ONCE said the people in her life are not suspect. I have said that her party from over a year ago is not the reason Somer has been murdered. It could be a friend of one of her husbands or a neighbor, or a teacher, principal, or policeman, or perhaps, a child predator. I do not believe it was mom nor do I think her lifestyle is the reason for Somer being murdered. If life-style such as mom T's is the one and only reason Somer was murdered and thrown in the trash, then we would be able to prevent other children from the same fate as Somer. mho

I have as much right to disagree with the 20 or so pages of trashing mom T. over the holidays as you have to disagree with me. What's all the fuss about?

 

[zannah]

5) Having your children collect money on street corners in exchange for fliers before she was discovered.

That's interesting--in one of the videos I viewed recently--think it was of the first vigil--the newscasters were talking about how numerous local businesses were printing the flyers for free.

 

[ccane]

5 star track record with loser men - maybe we should do checks on all her husbands to see how they affected mom T. and the kids. Could it be that they did ddrugs also? Maybe not receiving child support put mom T. at risk for losing her child to murder. Maybe the murderer is a friend of one of the husband's. You say you have common sense - so think about how having trouble with relationships can be so one-sided - you blame it all on mom. What the heck - don't the men involved have stamina to say 'no' to marriage or to a relationship? Are you suggesting they are all wimps?

I have never ONCE said the people in her life are not suspect. I have said that her party from over a year ago is not the reason Somer has been murdered. It could be a friend of one of her husbands or a neighbor, or a teacher, principal, or policeman, or perhaps, a child predator. I do not believe it was mom nor do I think her lifestyle is the reason for Somer being murdered. If life-style such as mom T's is the one and only reason Somer was murdered and thrown in the trash, then we would be able to prevent other children from the same fate as Somer. mho

I have as much right to disagree with the 20 or so pages of trashing mom T. over the holidays as you have to disagree with me. What's all the fuss about?

I agree Lifestyle does not make a child killer. I am logging off for today see you all tomorrow..

Lets go play clue for awhile

It's MR mustard in the hall with the candle stick :woohoo:

 

[human]

20 pages of trashing Mom? Maybe 20 comments about discussing the possibility of involvement and the reasons for thinking so.

 

[VirginiaTwo]

O/T (Sort of) I seem to remember that a few states have chickadees as their state bird. Just a thought. Sometimes things are not a process of elimination, but rather an also scenario. KWIM?

Perhaps there is something else to which we are not privy that is causing DT to act in the way she is acting. Just a thought.

 

[sadnpod]

5 star track record with loser men - maybe we should do checks on all her husbands to see how they affected mom T. and the kids. Could it be that they did ddrugs also? Maybe not receiving child support put mom T. at risk for losing her child to murder. Maybe the murderer is a friend of one of the husband's. You say you have common sense - so think about how having trouble with relationships can be so one-sided - you blame it all on mom. What the heck - don't the men involved have stamina to say 'no' to marriage or to a relationship? Are you suggesting they are all wimps?

I have never ONCE said the people in her life are not suspect. I have said that her party from over a year ago is not the reason Somer has been murdered. It could be a friend of one of her husbands or a neighbor, or a teacher, principal, or policeman, or perhaps, a child predator. I do not believe it was mom nor do I think her lifestyle is the reason for Somer being murdered. If life-style such as mom T's is the one and only reason Somer was murdered and thrown in the trash, then we would be able to prevent other children from the same fate as Somer. mho

I have as much right to disagree with the 20 or so pages of trashing mom T. over the holidays as you have to disagree with me. What's all the fuss about?

I honestly believe that better judgement on her mothers part could have prevented somers murder, and I also believe another parent using better judgement could prevent other children this same fate.

20+ pages of trashing "mom t" (this is an unusual way to address DT) over the Holidays... she has been discussed more today than yesterday... I thought you were complaining about off topic conversations on smoking... I think 20+ pages is an exaggeration and yes, I also would like to know... whats all the fuss about?

 

[tarabull]

That's interesting--in one of the videos I viewed recently--think it was of the first vigil--the newscasters were talking about how numerous local businesses were printing the flyers for free.

It was AC that said that, him & his friend were handing out flyers and he was surprised total strangers were giving money.

I could find the link....

 

[Kewpiedoll]

20 pages of trashing Mom? Maybe 20 comments about discussing the possibility of involvement and the reasons for thinking so.

I can go back to that one video clip interview with DT... the reporter ask her is she had thought about anyone, or something that could have happened.... DT started to answer and that clip was majorly edited prior to going on the air....! Do you remember that clip?

I think DT knows more than she is letting the public or possibly LE know.
I don't trust her-- she lied about Somer not doing this wandering off from the get go. What else is she lying about? Once someone starts off with a lie, that one lie leads to another and another. Some of the things that came out of her mouth were just jaw dropping.... I can only imagine the language she uses in front of her children, and the language she used on Somer.

I will see if I can find that old clip from the beginning... never hurts to take a new look, and listen again.

 

[4mer.naybor]

Well FWIW the thanksgiving break was like coming up for air after 23 serious threads for a month now....it was no big deal, I wasn't part of it, but don't blame y'all for a bit of laughter either. goodness even GOD decided to rest on the 7th day.

I haven't jumped in on the clue game yet...but perhaps Ms Scarlet is covering up for Mr. Green...in an alley with a baseball bat....yeah it isn't supposed to make sense....nothing cryptic there. lol

 

[VirginiaTwo]

I have two awful scenarios in my head. One is very similar to what others have stated here: that perhaps Mom located Somer and things got out of hand. The whailing and broken-heartedness we witnessed would still fit with that scenario. Can you imagine how any one of us would be absolutely tortured and crushed if we accidentally caused our own child's death? Oh my Gosh! Talk about denial to be able to even get out of bed?!?! I cannot even imagine the confusion, guilt, and suffering. I hope nothing like that happened.

The other scenario is of a dog attack. Perhaps a dog attacked Somer, and the owner panicked, similar to the hit-by-car scenarios brought up here.

Regardless of everything, I still wonder about SAP. He may be The One, or a part of something larger. I hope not, but .........

And there's a new person on my list ....... ARGH!!!!

 

[Kewpiedoll]

I agree Lifestyle does not make a child killer. I am logging off for today see you all tomorrow..

Lets go play clue for awhile

It's MR mustard in the hall with the candle stick :woohoo:

Hmmm... interesting post.
I must have missed where someone thinks DT's lifestyle made DT kill Somer.... personally I don't think DT killed Somer-- she was too darn busy with her druggie pals, and boyfriends to even know what backpack Somer had that day, nor could she could even remember telling her daughter she loved her. Brain on drugs does that to your memory you know...

Her lifestyle did play a big major role in Somer taking off ahead of the others... DT didn't have the time of day to take care of Somer and her problems. She probably did everything she could to keep Somer out of her hair. No wonder the poor little girl would wander the neighborhood lonley looking for a playmate-- she was lonely!!

Have a good time playing your game... hope you win.

 

[4mer.naybor]

well with DT's outgoing personality...Im sure she (DT) "didn't know a stranger" either...poor Somer probably thought it was normal to talk to anyone and everyone...not ever developing that fear that makes us wary of people we don't know. Does that make sense?



Apple <----not that far----> Tree

 

[eyes4crime]

I honestly believe that better judgement on her mothers part could have prevented somers murder, and I also believe another parent using better judgement could prevent other children this same fate.

20+ pages of trashing "mom t" (this is an unusual way to address DT) over the Holidays... she has been discussed more today than yesterday... I thought you were complaining about off topic conversations on smoking... I think 20+ pages is an exaggeration and yes, I also would like to know... whats all the fuss about?

Wed. night, all Thanksgiving day, and all today...lots of pages of trashing mom. I know, because I always read from where I left off. Imo most of it is senseless attacks and conjecture regarding mom T.

I agree - in every murdered and/or missing child's life there is someone that could have had better judgement or thought differently or done something different that may have changed the outcome. You and others want to focus on the mom and I want to focus on pedophiles, psychopaths, and child predators. To me, they are are the ones who go undetected. Research tells us they prey on the vulnerable and have antennae that pick out the most vulnerable, both in families and in child victims.

 

[sadnpod]

I have two awful scenarios in my head. One is very similar to what others have stated here: that perhaps Mom located Somer and things got out of hand. The whailing and broken-heartedness we witnessed would still fit with that scenario. Can you imagine how any one of us would be absolutely tortured and crushed if we accidentally caused our own child's death? Oh my Gosh! Talk about denial to be able to even get out of bed?!?! I cannot even imagine the confusion, guilt, and suffering. I hope nothing like that happened.

The other scenario is of a dog attack. Perhaps a dog attacked Somer, and the owner panicked, similar to the hit-by-car scenarios brought up here.

Regardless of everything, I still wonder about SAP. He may be The One, or a part of something larger. I hope not, but .........

And there's a new person on my list ....... ARGH!!!!

UGH.. more initials who is ARGH? (just kidding) I also wonder about SP. Take the vulgarity out of the pics and the background has its own tales, also the date.. I think the year is right,,, DT and SP are much younger looking.. wonder how far they go back? Looks like a pic of ST in uniform on the wall as well... and twins pic.. they are babies..

 

[Cheewawa007]

1)In regards to DT telling the LE Somer has never done this type of thing before. Think about it - had DT shared this info with the LE from the beginning, they would not have been so eager to help her search (not that they were from the get-go). They would have blown her off & said she's probably at a little friends house & she'll come home soon. She didn't tell them Somer's done this before because she knew they wouldn't take her seriously.
2) I had a second comment but I lost my train of thought........