FL - Somer Thompson, 7, Orange Park, 19 Oct 2009 #25

[sorrell skye]

If someone can pull up the video in which the statement was made, with accurate date, it would put the statement in perspective.

I could be entirely wrong about when she said that, as it's been weeks upon weeks, and I might be getting fuzzy.

But I do remember sitting bolt upright in my chair when I heard it and going "Huh?!"

In retrospect, I wonder why I would've had that reaction, since it was long before I began to suspect her.

 

[not_my_kids]

http://www.wftv.com/news/21359088/detail.html

Body found Monday, statements made Wednesday. So, it was 48 hours after the body was found.

If you look at the statement made about repaying the community and look at the transcript, the statement was made in the same video as the I love her/I'll miss her.
Therefore...48 hours.

 

[sadnpod]

gosh, last thing I ever thought was that people on here would need permission to sleuth mom D. There are tons of pages attacking every last detail about her...and nobody has come up with anything of substance yet. Actually, I'm tired of going over the same bits video, words, and mannerisms that she has.

As dad T's cousin, do you really think he would sit back and have you ask questions on WS if he thought his wife was guilty of murdering his daughter? His first statement was that he was going to take the children away from mom D. so they could be safe with him. If anything tells me mom D. is innocent, it's dad T's inability to find her guilty. mho

No I dont, and I dont even think he was thinking that when he made that statement... I think in his mind, he was stating that he was gonna get the kids out of orange park, jacksonville, fl where he thinks its dangerous and back to NC where he thinks its safe. I dont think he was even thinking about DT at the time.

My post wasnt meant to direct people back to "attacking" DT or to give anyone permission to do anything.

 

[houndstooth]

I've read your post a few times and want to make sure I'm understanding your line of thinking.

Do you think that Diena gave description of backpack (as did AB who drove Somer to school as did AT and ST who walked home with Somer as did friends, teacher, etc.) and LE was unable to find actual items anywhere online or in retails stores.

So they put the sketches out for the public (the very people who are the cause of the rumors that are slowing down their investigation) to find in order to determine whether they are on a wild goose chase for the items?

Or are you thinking they released the sketches to give the public something to wild goose chase themselves?

TIA

What was the description that the neighbor gave? What was the description that the children gave? The school? The mom?

Was there no agreement? For some reason this one was settled on to release. The purpose of which could only be to see if anybody in the entire US had one like it, meaning it had been sold somewhere, at sometime.

Or it was not missing at all. As described. Could it be that LE had found those items and just gave a bogus description to get a perp motivated to get rid of it if kept for souvenier? Or go back to the scene of the crime, so to speak, or show his hand by disagreeing with the description? Any of that would be possible, I suppose. But, why wait to do it on a national TV show?
That could have and should have been done by LE, as in a big deal local press conference. Not fed out in conflicting dribs and drabs by the mother of the victim. That would imply coaching by LE to do so in a planned way and that is not how it appears to me. Hope that clarifies. I did the best I could to explain my thought process.

 

[not_my_kids]

And I might add, if you watch the video, it clearly shows that the NG transcript is wrong in at least one place.

 

[tarabull]

http://www.wftv.com/news/21359088/detail.html

Body found Monday, statements made Wednesday. So, it was 48 hours after the body was found.

If you look at the statement made about repaying the community and look at the transcript that was made in the same video as the I love her/I'll miss her.
Therefore...48 hours.

Actually she disappeared MONDAY the 19th, and was found WEDNESDAY the 21st....

Regardless, my point is moot.

 

[not_my_kids]

I love her and I'll miss her and she's a twin and I don't know how it's going to affect him, but I know how it's affecting me," Diena said.

http://www.amw.com/missing_children/case.cfm?id=68853

Also states Wednesday, when she made the statements.

Do I have enough links? Is it proven now?

ETA: Lol. That sounded a bit harsher than it was meant to.

 

[eyes4crime]

Regarding the "I'll miss her" statement, if it wasn't made the first night, it was made the second night at the vigil, before the body had been positively ID'ed.

Pleeeeeese - what's the point? The forensic ID of a body using DNA is procedure - Here on WS, we all knew...so no doubt that mom D. knew. The body was identified by a birth mark...Are you holding the identification with DNA as the point in time Somer was found in the trash and murdered?

 

[Noway]

http://www.wftv.com/news/21359088/detail.html

Body found Monday, statements made Wednesday. So, it was 48 hours after the body was found.

If you look at the statement made about repaying the community and look at the transcript, the statement was made in the same video as the I love her/I'll miss her.
Therefore...48 hours.

Somer was found on Wednesday. Missing on Monday but found on Wednesday (I remember reporters saying "almost exactly 48 hours after she went missing" so she found around 3:30 I think).

IIRC, the Sheriff made his phone call at 9 and then Diena came out to address the group at the vigil out side her house.

If these statements are made at 9, just after being told her daughter's body had been found, I don't think much can be made of the tense she used, but that is JMO.

 

[not_my_kids]

Yeah, sorry one of the articles said found Monday, and I typed it. I know, I have been here from day one. I don't know why I went with the found on Monday. The point still stands that it was after the discovery that she made the comments.

I remember now because, it was almost 49 hours, and we did all the decomp rate stuff.

 

[sadnpod]

O/T

Geez Im goin to the garage.

 

[Noway]

The reporter says she spoke at the vigil in the afternoon and evening but later says tonight hundreds of people surrounded 7 year old Somer Thompson's home ... Diena was emotional when she spoke out tonight ...

Then he goes onto say that the Sheriff spent the evening with the Thompson family.

(Then why did he CALL her with the news that based on clothes and book bag it was Somer? Where did he go in between the evening and 9 p.m. when he called?) Or did he call, and then come by and spend the evening there?

Regardless, I think the moment they found a child, then determined female and based on clothes, they "knew" it was Somer. JMO

I"m confused about the timeframe here. Maybe the video reporting was bad?

 

[ccane]

I'm sorry, using verb tenses verbalized by an overwhelmed mom who just found out that her daughter was murdered and thrown in the garbage seems extremely petty to me.

Using 'I will' or 'I do' is irrevelent to me...I'm sure mom D. hadn't processed the tragic fact she will never see her daughter ever again. WTH????

ETA: Sorry, carry on! I now see she didn't know her daughter had been murdered.

ETA #2: Not sorry, she knew her body had been found but not yet forensically id with DNA! this is getting ridiculous!!!

I appreciate your looking at this from an emotional point of view. I am looking at it from a non emotional view. Investigators look it this also from a non emotion view as well. If they have not cleared her there is a reason and we are exploring it. This conversation needs both views so yours is important to the conversation. I take everything you and other say about meds or overwhelmed into consideration

 

[not_my_kids]

The reporter says she spoke at the vigil in the afternoon and evening but later says tonight hundreds of people surrounded 7 year old Somer Thompson's home ... Diena was emotional when she spoke out tonight ...

The Sheriff spent the evening with the Thompson family.

(Then why did he CALL her with the news that based on clothes and bookmark it was Somer).

This made it sound like Diena came out before the Sheriff's call. But even then, I think they knew it was Somer.

I"m confused about the timeframe here. Maybe the video reporting was bad?

That part has me confused too. The timeline as to what wasn't done right on video is hazy.
I don't know why she was called either, ecxept that maybe they called confirm, as opposed to fully notify?
ETA: I thought it was birthmark, not bookmark?

 

[Noway]

LOL
I edited the carp out of that post but you caught the gist.

A body was found at 3:30 ... and her comments were in the evening sometime.

I think if the body of a child was found and my child was missing, I would think it was my daughter (and react as such) even if at the same time I was hoping against hope that it was not.

And I'm sure my grammar would be screwed up too (and I'm usually pretty precise). I guess it would be easier to disect that if Diena was the kind of person who always used correct grammar. But if she is someone like my DH who mixes present, past and future, then I'd probably give it less merit. JMO

 

[sorrell skye]

Well, thanks everyone for looking up those videos. I apologize for posting in such haste before double-checking. The video is a bit confusing when compared with the other statements made by the sheriff regarding when and how next of kin were notified of positive ID, which is probably why it was fuzzy in my memory.

Henceforth, I will try to fact-check before my fingertips react!

 

[not_my_kids]

If it had been later on in the case, more than just a couple of days before the body was found, I might be a little suspicious of the belief that the child was Somer. However, being so early in the case, she was surrounded by LE still at the house. She would have seen their belief that it was Somer, even if they tried to hide it at first, and it would have given a foundation to hers.

MOO.

ETA: Okay, surrounded is not what I was going for...she would have been in nearly constant contact, is a better way to put it.
She knew about the body, and was dealing with LE a lot, I think the sheriff said hourly updates were being given to her. She would have known who they believed it was.

 

[New1]

Another good point! It might also be important to note his role as a liason, too. And not just his capacity as a financial advisor or entertainment lawyer.
A liason would imply him as a go between now of her and LE. This may indicate a distancing process. That's what I was wanting to determine yesterday. I was hoping there was no indication of impropriety there. I feel that has been answered now. Thanks, always.

IDK, but I think I would not want a go-between. I think I would want to be in the Sheriff's back pocket so to speak, so I could learn anything the minute he did about any leads they have to finding the monster who murdered my daughter. But, who knows, I could be wrong and feel totally different if I was in DT's shoes.

 

[ccane]

Well, thanks everyone for looking up those videos. I apologize for posting in such haste before double-checking. The video is a bit confusing when compared with the other statements made by the sheriff regarding when and how next of kin were notified of positive ID, which is probably why it was fuzzy in my memory.

Henceforth, I will try to fact-check before my fingertips react!

Never the less the words are important that a person uses. How may times have you seen a case where somesone says words that they bring up in court. When guys wifes go missing and they say she had on vs she has on etc. These things will be looked at by LE

 

[sorrell skye]

I would like to go on record as saying that although it must be obvious to everyone here who my #1 suspect is, I'm not invested in being right in my suspicions. I hope it turns out that I'm completely wrong. My heart goes out to Somer's siblings. They have already lost a sister in tragic circumstances. I would hate for them to lose a mother as well, should LE determine they have evidence that she did commit this crime.