FL - Somer Thompson, 7, Orange Park, 19 Oct 2009 #30

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I wonder if LE looked to see if anyone else in the area had work done on their house. I know where I live you just call the company and they deliver a dumpster right to your home and call when you are done and they come and pick it up.
 
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I wonder if LE looked to see if anyone else in the area had work done on their house. I know where I live you just call the company and they deliver a dumpster right to your home and call when you are done and they come and pick it up.

I would think some of the houses for sale and/or foreclosures had work done on them. They might raise a red flag or two.

JMO but I do think LE would be able to narrow down the dumpster. I don't know if they'd be able to narrow down the pep from that if the public had fairly easy access to the dumpster. But if the perp was dumb enough to throw away something that could be linked to him/her ...
 
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I was waiting for YOU to say that. The point is that if when she was found, in a dumpster, not at the dump, there were construction debris covering over her for some reason, it would stand out. It would easy to track, because it would MOSTLY have the usual refuse in it. I don't know what was partially covering her when they looked in that dumpster, but someone had tried to camoflage it in some way, I would think.

Why me?

And we don't know that there was construction debris, do we? I thought that was told to a WS member by someone they met at a wedding or funeral ...
 
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I would think some of the houses for sale and/or foreclosures had work done on them. They might raise a red flag or two.

JMO but I do think LE would be able to narrow down the dumpster. I don't know if they'd be able to narrow down the pep from that if the public had fairly easy access to the dumpster. But if the perp was dumb enough to throw away something that could be linked to him/her ...

I know. When you watch lets say Forensic files you see that they always get there man by ONE piece of evidence. I hope that this, finding her body, so fast would heave helped. I forgot what DT lawyer said but I think he said something like the evidence was sent overseas to be analyzed?
 
  • #367
I don't live in Orange Park or Florida. Where I live, construction debris goes to a separate dumpster if it's a huge amount. The homeowner just munches up what they can and puts it into the dumpster.

It depends on the size of the project. To remove a window, you are going to have a lot of garbage that wouldn't fit into a garbage can no matter how much you tried to much it, so you would have to bring it to a dump and pay to have it disposed.

We no longer have a landfill where I live, but the homeowner or whomever, drives to the former landfill and can pay to dispose of tires, frigs, whatever. Just what was listed like on the Chesser landfill I believe. NO ONE can sneak in. They have guys there looking at every load and telling you where to put the different stuff in your load. The people there also have free piles for stuff that others can dig through and I think the people that work there take the good stuff.

It's a lenghty answer, but if you are asking can someone throw construction materials inito the garbage. Yes. No problem.

The other thing that is different from where I live is that we pay for our garbage and it is not attached to anything.

In OP the garbage is paid on an electric bill if IIRC, so no one would notice or care about someone putting something into a dumpster.

Here people are much more aware because we all pay by volume. The greater the volume, the more you pay.

I know this has nothing to do with Orange Park Garbage collection, but where I live, trash and garbage are 2 different things. Garbage has to be put in a city provided Garbage can and rolled to the side of the road like end of driveway where it is dumped into the garbage truck manually by people who ride on the back of the truck.

Trash, on the other hand, is picked up by the Trash truck mechanically and put into an open long bed truck. Garbage people will not pick up anything that is not bagged. Trash truck picks up yard debris, old furniture, etc. anything that does not fit into a garbage bag. They do, however, pick up bagged leaves from your yard.

I believe garbage is disposed at the county landfill and trash is taken to the city dump. DT said her baby was put in the TRASH, which here where I live would be in the open long bed trash truck, not the garbage. I can tell by reading previous posts about the garbage pick-up in Orange Park that it is much different there than here.
 
  • #368
(I am not making distinction between trash and garbage as being different things but I am not considering construction debris at all in this post.)

How long does the trash brought to Rosemary Hill stay there?

I mean if trash is brought on Tuesday by the many trucks that pick it up at homes and businesses, do they get it transferred to the 25 ton truck that same day? And it's brought to Chesser on Tuesday?

Had any Wednesday trash been brought to Chesser by the time they found Somer?
 
  • #369
G'morning one and all....

There's in interesting comment posted UNDER a report about Somer at Jacksonville.com - I've seen it more than once. It's ALWAYS quoted by this individual "treehugger" - whenever I see it - it makes me think.

I SEE it's also noted under the story Spyglass posted (thanks spy!) about a man being shot on Hood Landing Road overnight.

IMO "food for thought":

"...an imperfect plan implemented immediately and violently will always succeed better than a perfect plan." General George S. Patton

tarabull, that quote you see is in the posters signature. It shows up in every comment they make to an article, and they have commented on many news stories... not just about Somer.

The comment on the article you linked is "Killed for a moving violation?"

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  • #370
New1, yeah, we have 95 gallon bins that are picked up by an arm too, so I am sure people throw things in that they shouldn't. And in OP, a dumpster is lifted by arms so it is not likely that anyone would know that there was something that shouldn't be in there in there.

Also, someone could have put Somer in the dumpster and someone else came in and threw their construction debris on top and the two are not related. If the dumpster is big (as in tall) enough (as were the ones in the industrial park where I worked) they wouldn't know what was in there ...
 
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Regardless, the quote in itself is food for thought....

"...an imperfect plan implemented immediately and violently will always succeed better than a perfect plan." General George S. Patton

I don't think Somer's murder was a thought out plan but rather something someone implemented immediately & violently....seems so far the perp might consider their actions a success.

I hope the winds soon change.
 
  • #372
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Originally Posted by houndstooth



Why me?

And we don't know that there was construction debris, do we? I thought that was told to a WS member by someone they met at a wedding or funeral ...


I reckon for the same reason you bolded this. lol :) See post #366

I said..." IF when she was found....there was construction debris covering over her...." because I don't know it for certain.

All I know is I have read that as a rumor ( first time posted someone who CLAIMED to have relatives in LE and high school chum who worked at the dump ), since Wed. night here and there.
All I can do and have done is read an article and statement by LE which is shortly refuted by other articles and actions taken as stated by LE and try to draw some logical conclusions about what it all means.
 
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Houndstooth, I'm confused.

You said:
I was waiting for YOU to say that ...

I was asking why you were waiting for me to say it.
 
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another clip I have not seen.. says DT was bent over and comforted by a deputy
http://www.wesh.com/video/21451377/index.html

I dont know why they have the same link
you can go to Wesh and search "somer" for videos and find them

try this one
http://www.wesh.com/video/21435408/

and this one
http://www.wesh.com/video/21438383/


When you find a video you want to share, look for the Get Link or Link option. Copying from address bar will bring you to main video page but not exact video.

Not all the videos have this option but most do. If you don't have a link option, provide the name of the video. That will help.

ccane, thanks for all your venturing into the Pit!
 
  • #379
http://www.wesh.com/video/21451377/index.html
Somer's Killer May Have Cuts on Upper Body
Summary of what to look for as far as behavior exhibited by Somer's killer. (no specific link to video available but empty space to right of video is where it sometimes is; sometimes just below video)

At link, you can search for all videos with Somer Thompson, older than 30 days. Once you have those, you can sort by relevance or date (option on right).
 
  • #380
When the sheriff said look for someone with cuts or bruses to the face, hand etc and a car hidden or sold is it possible this was a car accident and the person panicked.
 
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